Britain nears abandoning Brexit trade deal hope - The Telegraph

[paddypower]

7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Yep, we all knew:

 

Leading Remainers also made it clear that voting Leave would likely entail pulling Britain out of the single market. David Cameron said: ‘What the British public will be voting for is to leave the EU and leave the single market.’ George Osborne echoed him: ‘We would be out of the single market.’ There you go: the two then most powerful men in Britain saying Leave would mean leaving the single market. - 'The Spectator'

 

to quote one of yours - some of your Brexiteers are a bunch of 'ya-boos' indeed. You quote The Spectator, which had such low standards of editorial content that it once hired Boris the Flying Johnson - a lying fired journalist, to be its Editor. and in the same breath, you label the Guardian a rag and other moronic labels. Left wing/right wing..it takes two wings for a bird fly.

[Loiner]

5 minutes ago, paddypower said:

to quote one of yours - some of your Brexiteers are a bunch of 'ya-boos' indeed. You quote The Spectator, which had such low standards of editorial content that it once hired Boris the Flying Johnson - a lying fired journalist, to be its Editor. and in the same breath, you label the Guardian a rag and other moronic labels. Left wing/right wing..it takes two wings for a bird fly.

Ya-boo to your "My news is better than your news."  or the even more laughable "My ex-PM is better than your current PM." How much more will Ireland lose out under the UK's leaving the single market without a deal? i think it will be loads-a-dosh.

 

The promises I believed were made by your Remainers:

 

 

[Rimmer]

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[bert bloggs]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

They're quoting Johnson, Farage et al. No matter if it is the Guardian or another source, the quotes are the same.

 

Still looking forward to an answer to the questions Simple1 asked you.

what question was that? sorry questions

Edited August 21, 2020 by bert bloggs

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, paddypower said:

You are the source and the link. ? RATFLOL

And the glory. Amen.

[bert bloggs]

well steveni i see put a sad face on my answer ,but did not answer my question ,what questions did he ask me? please tell me

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

well steveni i see put a sad face on my answer ,but did not answer my question ,what questions did he ask me? please tell me

So you're asking me to read through the recent pages to come up with the answer to your question. If you open a thread by clicking. show most recent post' you would have seen it.

 

But since I'm a nice guy, post # 835.

 

Quote

It would be interesting if there was a fact check process to ascertain how many leave voters interpreted messaging as a policy commitment as opposed to 'promises'. have a read of the article below, please no 'lefty' media deflection, but a reasoned response if you wish to reply.

 

The Vote Leave campaign made at least three key promises that were the basis of their victory. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/eu-referendum-reality-check-leave-campaign-promises

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by stevenl

[bert bloggs]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

So you're asking me to read through the recent pages to come up with the answer to your question. If you open a thread by clicking. show most recent post' you would have seen it.

 tell me ,i cant find it ,come on dont keep me in suspense

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

 tell me ,i cant find it ,come on dont keep me in suspense

You ask for something, it is given to you, and after that, nothing.

[Rimmer]

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[bert bloggs]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You ask for something, it is given to you, and after that, nothing.

so you have no answer you just made the original question up.

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

so you have no answer you just made the original question up.

Huh? I quoted plus gave you the post number.

[bert bloggs]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Huh? I quoted plus gave you the post number.

where,when?

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

where,when?

Are you sure you know how a forum works?

[Surelynot]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-barnier-trade-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-a9681496.

 

Not looking good.....we must have let someone see our cards

Edited August 21, 2020 by Surelynot

[bert bloggs]

47 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Are you sure you know how a forum works?

Right i will say no ,so now tell me WHAT QUESTION?

[david555]

(as expected...)

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-barnier-trade-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-a9681496.html
 

Brexit trade talks actually 'going backwards', warns EU's Michel Barnier.

Chief negotiator says deal is still unlikely

Jon Stone Policy Correspondent 
 @joncstone 16 minutes ago 

Brexit trade talks between the UK and EU are actually "going backwards" as negotiators "waste valuable time", Brussels' chief negotiator has said.  A visibly annoyed Michel Barnier told reporters on Friday after a week-long round of talks that on some subjects there had been "no progress whatsoever on the issues that matter".

 

"Too often this week it felt as if we were going backwards more than forward. Given the short time left ... today at this stage an agreement between the UK and the European Union seems unlikely. I still do not understand why we are wasting valuable time," he said.

David Frost, the UK's chief negotiator, said in a written statement that he believed "agreement is still possible" but that "it is clear that it will not be easy to achieve".  

 

 

Same on Sky news

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu-negotiator-disappointed-after-little-progress-in-trade-deal-talks-12053638

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2020 by david555

[7by7]

10 hours ago, transam said:

So he didn't, you are twisting stuff again 'assuming'.

Do you write for the Independent...? ????

 Can you not be bothered to read the information from Vote.Leave provided; or have you read it and simply cannot admit that you were wrong?

[7by7]

9 hours ago, Loiner said:

Whey, Remainers twisting their knickers again about something on the side of a bus. 

If you looked closely you would have found that it had “India” on its tyres too, but it was not bloody going there. 

 Brexiteers still trying to convince everyone that the amount on the side of the bus was not a lie!

 

£350 million EU claim "a clear misuse of official statistics"

 

[7by7]

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

19 hours ago, 7by7 said:

So you never believed that the UK could leave the EU but remain in the single market and customs union?

You are twisting again. Shall I turn the music up?

 

Not "twisting;" asking a question. Hence my use of a question mark!

 

Should have realised that you wouldn't answer; you never have yet!

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-barnier-trade-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-a9681496.

 

Not looking good.....we must have let someone see our cards

Link didnt work mate try this

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-barnier-trade-talks-uk-eu-boris-johnson-a9681496.html

 

Yeah I think Johnson took the pack of cards with him when he went camping. Have to have something to while away the long nights.

[7by7]

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

9 hours ago, stevenl said:

Of course they were promises. You're simply denying because they can't be met, were never intended to be met, simply empty promises 

You believe that, I don't. 

The promises were made by Vote.Leave. That's a fact proven by their own campaign literature and quotes from Vote.Leave politicians in the press; all previously linked to.

 

So another question for you to dodge with Chubby Checker references: are you saying you don't, maybe never did, believe the promises made by Vote.Leave and it's political spokespeople; that they lied to us?

 

[7by7]

7 hours ago, evadgib said:

7 hours ago, simple1 said:

Exactly what has the Guardian misreported, without correction, in the news?

The only thing they get right is the date

 

So what has The Guardian misreported, without correction, in the news?

[kingdong]

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

Yep, we all knew:

 

Leading Remainers also made it clear that voting Leave would likely entail pulling Britain out of the single market. David Cameron said: ‘What the British public will be voting for is to leave the EU and leave the single market.’ George Osborne echoed him: ‘We would be out of the single market.’ There you go: the two then most powerful men in Britain saying Leave would mean leaving the single market. - 'The Spectator'

 

cameron was never a brexiteer,he went down that road when ukip started to gain popularity and his bum cheeks puckered.after calling the referendum on and telling one and all the results would be binding instead of remaining impartial he and George osbourne instigated project fear at the cost of over 9million pounds of taxpayers money,when the results came in cameron resigned.

[7by7]

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

Yep, we all knew:

 

Leading Remainers also made it clear that voting Leave would likely entail pulling Britain out of the single market. David Cameron said: ‘What the British public will be voting for is to leave the EU and leave the single market.’ George Osborne echoed him: ‘We would be out of the single market.’ There you go: the two then most powerful men in Britain saying Leave would mean leaving the single market. - 'The Spectator'

 

 

True, leading Remain campaigners did say all that.

 

Dismissed at the time by Leave campaigners as 'Project Fear!'

[evadgib]

3 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

So what has The Guardian misreported, without correction, in the news?

It was a one liner intended as tongue-in-cheek banter with an element of truth attached. For a serious answer you'll need to ask someone that actually reads it.

[Loiner]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 

True, leading Remain campaigners did say all that.

 

Dismissed at the time by Leave campaigners as 'Project Fear!'

That's what we voted for though. Remainers seemed to think it would be a bad thing. Their Project Fear was in fact fanning the flames of our fires.

[7by7]

2 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Huh? I quoted plus gave you the post number.

where,when?

 

 

[Loiner]

26 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Brexiteers still trying to convince everyone that the amount on the side of the bus was not a lie!

 

£350 million EU claim "a clear misuse of official statistics"

 

I don't think Leavers believed it any more than it was intended to be believed. Only the Remainers are still taking it literally.

More fool you, if you believe what's plastered on the side of a bus. 

 

[kingdong]

que sera sera whatever will be will be,all i can say is with the situation at the moment thank god we,re leaving in jan.