Urinating at night

[Pilotman]

google also says that  taking say Kamagra, Viagra, or one of the other ED medicines, on a fairly regular basis, (weekly, rather than daily), and having regular sex, improves prostate function and helps to stop or reverse enlargement of the gland.  I cannot myself vouch for the veracity of this, but let's face it, it's got to be worth a try and there are a lot worse ways to try to cure the problem?   ????

[Bangkokianbaba]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Firide 5 mg MAY decrease the size of the prostate gland in patients of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). ... Firide blocks the enzyme responsible for the production of dihydrotestosterone and lowers the level of dihydrotestosterone, which is responsible for growth of the prostate.

 

Doxazosin is indicated for the treatment of urinary outflow obstruction and symptoms associated with benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). Doxazosin may be used in BPH patients who are either hypertensive or normotensive. Doxazosin may be administered in the morning or the evening.

 

I take both, and have been for the past 18 months.

Finastreide 5mg every other day to inhibit Prostate growth (it doesn't appear to decrease the size of my prostate).

Doxazocin 6mg every evening to facilitate normal urination.

 

If I stop taking the Finasteride (aka Firide), it makes no immediate difference.

If I stop taking Doxazocin, 2-3 days later I have problems urinating again.

 

The doctor telling you not to take them together was incompetent, as it's perfectly normal to take both.

Finasteride may cause erectile dysfunction (I'm not suffering that effect)

Doxazocin may cause dizziness when standing up, and blocked nose (I'm not suffering those either)

 

When first taking Doxazocin you need to start at minimum dose 2mg, and work up in 1mg steps every two weeks until you can urinate normally (max 8mg). You also need to monitor your blood pressure when taking Doxazocin, as it lowers BP, in my case 6mg lowers my BP from 120/80 to 90/60 .... which is the level for me than enables normal urination.

 

THANK you BritManToo! I'll start with the two again!!!

[Bangkokianbaba]

1 hour ago, Pilotman said:

google also says that  taking say Kamagra, Viagra, or one of the other ED medicines, on a fairly regular basis, (weekly, rather than daily), and having regular sex, improves prostate function and helps to stop or reverse enlargement of the gland.  I cannot myself vouch for the veracity of this, but let's face it, it's got to be worth a try and there are a lot worse ways to try to cure the problem?   ????

when I'm 78?????

 

[Pilotman]

7 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

when I'm 78?????

 

so what? 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Pilotman

[Bangkokianbaba]

1 minute ago, Pilotman said:

so what? 

WOW!

[Sheryl]

The dizziness may be unrelated and in itself needs investigation. Could be cardiac cause. Or could be an inner ear problem. When did you last have a complete check up?

 

For the prostate you need to see a good urologist. Where in Thailand are you?

[ehs818]

Many good suggestions were given here already. But I'd suggest simply not drinking anything after 6pm. If your bladder is empty you should not have to get up to pee.

[tonray]

8 minutes ago, ehs818 said:

Many good suggestions were given here already. But I'd suggest simply not drinking anything after 6pm. If your bladder is empty you should not have to get up to pee.

That's a workaruond...but depriving your body of needed fluids in a hot climate is not the best option. And that will likely lead to other problems as your kidneys will be stressed without proper hydration, your body will pull water from your stool, hardening it and causing constipation, and a host of other issue related to dehydration in older persons.

[rupert the bear]

hi i have some knowledge of this subject,quit the finisteride.it shrinks the acini in the prostate therefore antibiotics will find it harder to penetrate.its hard enough as it is with the prostate as the channels are many and tiny.they tend to form biofilms after a few mnths if it is an infection.go to a good uro,hard to find here.you need to find out what is really wrong with the minimum of expense,PSA test is not a good guide,if you have prostatitis it will be high.it will be high even if you dont have cancer,even the guy that invented the test says its useless!!google it.get a trans rectal ultrasound,thatll show you all of the prostate and get prostate fluid culture a pcr and a 7 day culture,they must do it 7 days if not its useless,labs here are poor they dump it if they see nothing in 48 hrs,stupid but you may find one that will.ask first,i know of one hospital that may be of help,youll need prostate massage first,that should nt be problematic.also the dr will be able to see if theres a sign of cancer at that time,also get a blood test that shows inflammation markers rather than a PSA.,that will show if theres problems cancer wise.PSA is a joke.BPH is possible but that too is usually in concert with infection,

[Surasak]

22 hours ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

Thank you Stephenterry! I thought however, that the dizziness is because of nocturia! 

The dizziness may be due to dehydration. Not drinking sufficient water, being worried about the night time problem. Plenty of water in the daytime but none after 7pm mat help?

[tandor]

..try having a Blood Glucos Test..never thought of that?

 

[tandor]

On 7/29/2020 at 9:17 AM, stephenterry said:

I would support consulting an urologist, and then be ready to undertake a PSI and urine test and go from there. A PSI score of >10 is an indication that the prostate gland needs investigation. Dizziness may not be a consequence of waterworks medication, and I would also suggest taking an ECG, as it's common for elderly people to suffer from arterial blockage. 

Top Urology Hospitals In Bangkok

1. Bumrungrad International Hospital
2. Vejthani Hospital
3. BNH Hospital
4. Yanhee Hospital
5. Sikarin International Hospital

Neither options are dirt cheap, but it's better for your longer term health, than hoping it will go away. It won't. 

   

..i think you mean PSA !...PSI is more about your tyre pressure...????

[tandor]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:19 AM, ezzra said:

Common occurrences in older men like 70 and older, sure, there are medicines and procedures that one can try, some works, other just postpone the inevitable that is aging is not kind to men...

..at least the OPs property is safe as he does spot checks during the wee hours.

[vandeventer]

I am not a doctor either but I have had prostate problems for over 20 years and it is

no joke.I also take Firide 5 mg and this does make your prostate smaller.But what the doctors

here in thailand don't say is Urirf 4mg to take as well.Which is available here in thailand.I got 

this from my brothers doctor in the USA.Now I take 1 each Firide 5 mg per day and if you 

start on the Urief 4mg take 1 in the morning and 1 at night before bed.After 4to 6 months of

taking Urief 4 mg you can stat cutting back to 1 pill before bed.It really works and I don't

even get up at all during the night. I hope this helps you as much as it helps me.Good luck!

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by vandeventer

[TigerandDog]

Get your prostate checked. If it's enlarged, and it certainly sounds like it because you're having to pee so often during the night, there are medical solutions ( not quackery ) to make things better. As others have said, see your doctor.

[Bangkokianbaba]

15 hours ago, Sheryl said:

The dizziness may be unrelated and in itself needs investigation. Could be cardiac cause. Or could be an inner ear problem. When did you last have a complete check up?

 

For the prostate you need to see a good urologist. Where in Thailand are you?

Sorry Sheryl for my late answer, but it is very complicated! I was spending the years a fortune for doctors / hospitals and at the end they couldn't give a proper answer what I could understand, but not their answer "go to a sleeping doctor". Wekk, I cannot sleep with a sleeping mask! 

I had 3 MRI scans and amongst others they saw that a small part of my brains is dead. I had in the sixties a heavy car accident and the doctor than said "you can have problems later". I am now very, very dizzy and I started to-day walking with a stick because sometimes it starts spinning in my head that I have to sit or lay! It seems that my head is very, very heavy! I go many months not outside anymore so I am very, very bored!

Furthermore the blood to my brains is not enough. I get medicines for that: Atorvastatin 20 mg. 

My ears are already years hissing but even in Bumrungrad the ENT doctor didn't come with an adequate answer! 

I think that my urinating problem (sleeping) is the main course! I am the whole day dizzy and tired but I cannot sleep in the daytime and that's not the solution I think! Now I am planning to go to my "standard" doctor from Australia and ask him to test my blood (again) and to send me to an urologist, which I never visited! Him I will ask for a "Green scan" of the bladder and NOT an operation! 

I take now at bed time Circadin (Melatonin) 5 mg, Firide 5 mg. and Doxazocin 2 mg.. I stopped wit Xanax because I think that doesn't help. 

I am that tired and fed up that I go to bed in between 5.30 and 6 o'clock and I come out of my bed around 3 o'clock. 

I am living in Bangkok and cannot spent in principle a lot of money anymore: I spend it all to them!

[Bangkokianbaba]

1 hour ago, Surasak said:

The dizziness may be due to dehydration. Not drinking sufficient water, being worried about the night time problem. Plenty of water in the daytime but none after 7pm mat help?

I am drinking lots of water until 4!

[Jack Hna]

They got adult nappies in bigC.

 

 

 

 

[Bangkokianbaba]

27 minutes ago, tandor said:

..try having a Blood Glucos Test..never thought of that?

 

My Glucose is under 100, around 97 before taking somwthing early morning!

[Bangkokianbaba]

29 minutes ago, tandor said:

..try having a Blood Glucos Test..never thought of that?

 

I took a test in the morning before taking something in and the Glucose was only around 97!

 

[charliebadenhop]

Not at all claiming this to be "the" answer, but I am 72 and I take a supplement called Prostate Support by Now (see herb) and I went from getting up 2-3 times a night to rarely getting up once.

 

But as others have suggested, there could be other factors involved.

 

 

[hotchilli]

On 7/29/2020 at 8:22 AM, steven100 said:

78 yrs old is pretty darn good. Go see a doctor. Have a beer and relax.

Or no beer before bed ?

[anfh]

Sorry, but do you not think it would be better to consult a doctor rather than asking on this site etc ??????

[rascalman]

I am a bit younger! First I could not go so good! Went to a doctor and they performed a uncomfortable procedure, sticking a probe up my urethra! Now medicine and urinate at least 3/4 times nightly! To much! I must cut back my water in evenings!

Getting old is No Fun and painful! I have other big health issues too! I like the comment about finding a good urologist! Good luck!

[johnnysunshine]

I suggest you do not see a conventional doctor as those pills usually do not work and can even aggravate your situation.  start taking Saw Palmetto herb and be sure you have enough Zinc in your diet wit oysters and pumpkin seeds being the best sources.   

Also, if you are drinking alcohol it will contribute towards peeing more.   See if can drink a lot more water in the early part of the day and then cease drinking any large quantity after 7:00 PM.   I know all this from experience.

[nauseus]

On 7/29/2020 at 10:05 AM, bkk6060 said:

For the sleep issue to avoid getting up, keep a large plastic container next to your bed and urinate in it.

This will avoid you getting up and being fully awakened by constant urination problem.

 

Do you sit a lot during the day?  If so I have found sitting for long periods can create your symptoms.

If I get up and about for a few days, play some golf, walk, I find myself needing to urinate less.

 

Also, can you ejaculate?  If so, do it as much as possible it is a medical fact (search it) that frequent ejaculation is good for the prostate and can possibly reduce the chances of P cancer.  I am in Pattaya with a little money so I do not need to masturbate much.  But, it is OK to masturbate everyone has/does it and it is good for you.

 

Good luck, hope you work through it.

 

  

My dad said masterbation was bad for me. But what the hell? At 78 you don't need to listen to anyone. Give it a shot, if no pain.

 

But seriously, your condition might be caused by several things that would probably require medical testing.

If you have not seen a doctor you should do that first.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by nauseus

[nauseus]

54 minutes ago, Bangkokianbaba said:

I took a test in the morning before taking something in and the Glucose was only around 97!

 

Blood sugar is not the problem then. Sorry I just saw your post #46. Yes, it sounds like a good urologist would be the next step if you have not seen one before. A full UA (urinalysis) will reveal any problems with your pee (if any). If you never sleep well then that could be causing your dizziness and other problems. Good luck matey. 

Edited July 30, 2020 by nauseus

[Bangkokianbaba]

1 hour ago, TigerandDog said:

Get your prostate checked. If it's enlarged, and it certainly sounds like it because you're having to pee so often during the night, there are medical solutions ( not quackery ) to make things better. As others have said, see your doctor.

Thank you TigerandDog! I ask for a "Save Scan"!

[steven100]

43 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Or no beer before bed ?

yes right ... but i gotta have my 6-8 bottles every day. 

[hotchilli]

31 minutes ago, steven100 said:

yes right ... but i gotta have my 6-8 bottles every day. 

start earlier.. beer on the corn flakes works well, cut out a cup of tea have another beer.. etc etc