2 hours ago, webfact said:

He wanted to see foreign tourists allowed in in the fourth quarter, well before the end of 2020.

I want win lotto and new Ferrari, maybe same kind what Mr Red Bull drive! Have needs, but never happen to me and not also to "you" Thailand!

Wonder how long the Hotels can stay open without without customers?

i remember this game. where do we pay our virtual reality bar fines ? 

Devalue the Baht by at least 50%

28 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Wonder how long the Hotels can stay open without without customers?

My ex's small hotel at Phuket Airport has had precisely 1 Thai guest since March, whereas it's normally full (11 rooms) with airport travellers.  She's 'hanging on' and hopeful of a return to normality - whereas I'm realistic and getting the handkerchiefs ready to stem her tears when it finally goes t*ts up.....

5 minutes ago, simon43 said:

My ex's small hotel at Phuket Airport has had precisely 1 Thai guest since March, whereas it's normally full (11 rooms) with airport travellers.  She's 'hanging on' and hopeful of a return to normality - whereas I'm realistic and getting the handkerchiefs ready to stem her tears when it finally goes t*ts up.....

That's worse than would have expected sorry to hear it maybe better get your wallet ready as well as handkerchief.

17 hours ago, NE1 said:

 

Have Europe and the countries mentioned got Covid under control now ?

Did i miss something ?

 

The U.S. also on his list...   50,000+ new cases and 1000+ deaths per day... And the guy wants to import THAT into Thailand with no quarantine???  He's a loon!!!

 

17 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I believe that the long-term visitors will respect the self-isolation policy

 

I don't see any evidence of that likely to be the case in Thailand.

 

Most of the "visitors" who come here come here in part because they dislike/want to avoid all the rules and regulations they may have back home.  They're not exactly the toe the line types, in general.

 

And returning Thais certainly didn't honor the self isolation rules back before the mandatory quarantine came into effect...  It was out the door and party soon after arriving.

 

 

Someone explain to him that nobody from Europe is even thinking about flying to Asia without a working vaccine so meanwhile the tourist industry workers better should shift back to farming rice.

 

2 hours ago, NE1 said:

 

Have Europe and the countries mentioned got Covid under control now ?

Did i miss something ?

Europe is closing down again, city by city.....and Europe is very hot now, why would they come to Thailand with it's smog, dirty sea, scammers and so on? 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai media reported that the chief of the Thai Hoteliers' Association has called for the government to set up a 100 billion baht fund to rescue the tourism industry devastated by the coronavirus pandemic. 

How about inviting ALL tourists back from ALL countries, ensuring everyone masks up and putting that 100 billion in a covid hospital/quarantine emergency fund to deal with it

2 hours ago, NE1 said:

 

Have Europe and the countries mentioned got Covid under control now ?

Did i miss something ?

Does it matter if they are quarantined? 

7 minutes ago, Youlike said:

Europe is closing down again, city by city.....and Europe is very hot now, why would they come to Thailand with it's smog, dirty sea, scammers and so on? 

Europe doesn't have scammers then, and what scams do tourists face in LOS to deter them...?

throwing money around like this .... someone will pay.... why not buy shares of the hotels and then the elite can go there for free and thai people with 10 percent discount

15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

How about inviting ALL tourists back from ALL countries, ensuring everyone masks up and putting that 100 billion in a covid hospital/quarantine emergency fund to deal with it

 

It would be interesting to know what might happen if the Thai govt simply dropped all the other rules and said as follows -- ANYONE from anywhere can come to Thailand whenever they want, as long as they:

--pass a COVID test before departing

--have adequate health insurance, and

--undergo and pass 2 weeks mandatory quarantine upon arrival, period.

 

No more rules about only people with work permits, or only short-term tech/exhibition staff, or only those married to Thais, etc etc....

 

I wonder how much demand for ASQ that would really create, and could they scale up ASQ capacity enough to handle it... You'd think they could, what with all the closed up hotels around BKK currently sitting empty and employing no one.

 

And it's not just the quarantine upon arriving here, it's also the quarantine when you return home, for a grand total of up to 28 days.... nope.

Thailand seems to be looking at this from one side - theirs!

 

Its not just about Thailand saying ok let these countries come - some of those countries are not allowing their citizens to go overseas on holidays.

 

What this epidemic has shown is that dependence on China for the majority of manufacturing has biten us all on the ass!

 

Western countries will now look to bring all that manufacturing back in house - which is good for jobs in our own countries in the future.

 

Lastly, what this has shown is that Thailand's GDP is far too dependent on Tourism, which will not be back at profitbale levels for over 12 months.

 

Troubled times ahead for Thailand me thinks - worse than 1997.

 

 

Tourism should never have been allowed to grow beyond 10 per cent of GDP.  Tourism demand is too frothy - subject to pandemics, Gulf wars, failing western economies, unsatisfactory investigations of island murders, nose-diving tour boats, and all the rest.  For the future, Thailand should focus on wooing long-term residents and retirees as Khun Abhisit suggested when he was PM.  Unfortunately, the increasingly arduous visa conditions for long-stayers are achieving the opposite.

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Countries that would be eligible were China, Taiwan, the US and those in Europe, reported TPBS. 

US is totally under control... If we take Europe, yes, Germany, Spain, UK... also totally under control. What's wrong with this vacuum head?

3 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

US has it under control - vaccine by Nov 3rd.. Biggly xx

 

straight from the horse's mouth ????

What else happens on Nov 3rd? Trump likes to suck people like you in ???? 

So for 2 weeks self imprisonment what is on offer

Free beer and birds 

If not then most will say ????

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Dream on Suphawan, cloud cuckoo land is where your at, time to start being realistic, severe restrictions, you plonker, who in their right minds would come here and put up with that?

Plonker  is good word.  ,you must be old Brit. , comes from Fouls and Horses   ,,,,, maybe.  she sould start selling Mekong dinking water 

2 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I've given you an outline on what and how to do it; can you take it from here?

Excellent post, with all the aspects to ponder. The key question is, of course, what is the trade off between a manageable infection rate and a viable economy -- with the equally subjective question of what defines "manageable."

With all the resources looking for a vaccine, are similar resources being used to look for a near-instantaneous test for corvid-19? If not, it should -- because if folks can be near-instantaneously tested before getting on the airplane, with a high probability of very few false negatives, international travel and tourism can once again take off. Presumably, a few false negatives could be dealt with (and maybe even another test prior to de-planing would be in order, to trap a previous false negative, or maybe a toilet seat encounter during the flight). Anyway, there may be testing soon that will eliminate the tourist-killing requirement for a 14-day quarantine. As such, all the world's pent-up tourists, particularly the affluent retirees whose incomes haven't been affected by the pandemic, may once again be able to travel. And where would they like to go? Well, probably to a virus free bubble like New Zealand or Thailand.... which requires these countries to keep doing what they've been doing, to a large degree anyway.

Interesting decision making for a yet defined perfect mix.

Suggest Thailand accepts Tourism will not return and down sizes its economy accordingly. The true beneficiaries will be previous inhabitants of the beaches and the eco system. The main losers people from Isaan and other poor areas who are now unemployed and will have to return to their home land.

Maybe they should rethink about kicking out so many of us on the 26 of sept. as it

may cost them not 100 billion but 100 trillion baht to support the country as zero

tourist will be coming.And guess what we don't have the virus,is are money no good?

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

Dream on Suphawan, cloud cuckoo land is where your at, time to start being realistic, severe restrictions, you plonker, who in their right minds would come here and put up with that?

Agreed. I have an Elite visa and work in Asia in another country where I am at now. I have no desire to go through 14 days quarantine and all the related hassle to have a few days in Thailand and then go through all that hassle again when I return to the country in which I work. I will just stay here at work. KaChing KaChing

1 hour ago, Destiny1990 said:

Someone explain to him that nobody from Europe is even thinking about flying to Asia without a working vaccine so meanwhile the tourist industry workers better should shift back to farming rice.

 

The part about the vaccine is simply not true and my company has the pre- bookings to prove it!

What they 100% will NOT do is, spending 2 weeks INSIDE a hotel room, that they have to pay for and waste precious holiday- days on that BS!

A vaccine looks like it is almost certainly going to be effective, because this virus mutates rather slowly unlike for example HIV which rapidly mutates, and renders a vaccine is obsolete. The vaccine for COVID-19 utilises manufactured proteins that resemble the virus, and so the it tricks the body into making antibodies against this specific virus. Those antibodies only last for 3-4 months however, but also created are memory T cells that do last many years. Multiple pharmaceutical entities are in the final phases of the vaccine rollout, and if things go ahead as planned, doses should be given around the start of 2021. IF the vaccine fails, we are going to have to go for herd immunity and purposely infect everybody so those memory T cells are created, and then the virus will die out simply because everybody is immune to it. Thailand will not have any shred of tourism until 1 of these scenarios plays out. 

Just now, toolpush said:

Agreed. I have an Elite visa and work in Asia in another country where I am at now. I have no desire to go through 14 days quarantine and all the related hassle to have a few days in Thailand and then go through all that hassle again when I return to the country in which I work. I will just stay here at work. KaChing KaChing

Exactly mate - I am the same, Elite Visa, working out of Thailand, and not worth the hassle to try and go their on my time off, and then try and get back to my country and back to work afterwards - I hate to say it, but looking like 2021 before I feel I can get back there.

"Mooted" !?!