More migrants cross Channel to Britain as political tension rises

[Loiner]

7 minutes ago, sirocco said:

loiner post 151

It's a joke, isn't it.
On this Monday morning, you wanted the week to be a lot of fun for all Internet users.
Thank you for this delicate kindness  

You're welcome. Do you want to deliver the poor darlings back home, or shall I?

[sirocco]

LOINER,

 

They cost me quite a bit, so I leave you the honor of bringing them back to their countries.

[mokwit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html

 

Note when applying the medical criteria for determining age the Danish authorities had a deliberate policy of erring towards classifying as a child in cases where there was uncertainty, but it still came out at 3/4.

 

The explanation published to try and refute the medical; findings 'Humanitarian group says many young people don't know how old they really are'

[Rimmer]

Off topic baiting posts and replies removed

[Loiner]

14 minutes ago, sirocco said:

LOINER,

 

They cost me quite a bit, so I leave you the honor of bringing them back to their countries.

Aww, come on I'm sure if you can dig a bit deeper you'll find it in your heart, and pockets, to help them home. 

[sirocco]

Ah! my good heart will lose me, but I only have baht and my pockets are holed.

[evadgib]

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Edited August 24, 2020 by evadgib

[evadgib]

44 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Don't know why you make unfounded allegations, though a common occurrence from the 'right of centre'. I have never denied the existence of false claims for asylum / refugee status, just query some members claims all asylum seekers / refugees are this or that, which is of course rubbish.

What percentage of 'all of them' aren't?

(Specifically arrivals to ???????????????????????????? by boat will do; 5k or thereabouts so far this year. I don't know the answer but my guess is NONE ....& for the record I once lived and owned a house in Dover but I'm alright now lol)

Edited August 24, 2020 by evadgib

[transam]

49 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Not a problem any more. After all we now have Brexit which will stop migrants crossing the channel wont it?

Wait and see, plus they may take the longer route to Scotland, but doubt that, many there want to join the EU.......????

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

There's no such thing as unaccompanied child migrants. If really under 18 they are runaways, who should be returned to mum and dad. Or they are liars, who must be immediately repatriated without question.

You posting opinion as fact, again a common occurrence with member of your posting history accusing all asylum seekers as the 'same'. Within this topic I posted HMG stats for asylum seekers which I have reposted below - do your homework on children granted visas upon completion of assessment.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/immigration-statistics-year-ending-june-2019/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

[simple1]

14 minutes ago, evadgib said:

What percentage of 'all of them' aren't?

(Specifically arrivals to ???????????????????????????? by boat will do; 5k or thereabouts so far this year. I don't know the answer but my guess is NONE ....& for the record I once lived and owned a house in Dover but I'm alright now lol)

What percentage of 'all of them' aren't?

 

In fact, experts say most of those crossing the Channel appear to have "strong" claims to asylum, with the majority hailing from Iran, according to the National Crime Agency (NCA).

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-50813246

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

You posting opinion as fact, again a common occurrence with member of your posting history accusing all asylum seekers as the 'same'. Within this topic I posted HMG stats for asylum seekers which I have reposted below - do your homework on children granted visas upon completion of assessment.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/immigration-statistics-year-ending-june-2019/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

You are posting government figures as fact. Those two are definitely not the same, especially when it comes to immigration. You another twisted argument too: I stated unaccompanied child migrants, which you changed to all asylum seekers. 

 

Done my homework sir! I found they are still letting in gimmigrants of all categories. When the government figures are down to a big fat zero, will it be acceptable. Only then can we start to rescind the asylum or protection grants of the past twenty years or more.

 

That additional 5,993 Family reunion visas were issued to partners and children of those previously granted asylum or humanitarian protection in the UK is the most telling. Is that why they are sending all those young men? 

 

[evadgib]

58 minutes ago, simple1 said:

What percentage of 'all of them' aren't?

 

In fact, experts say most of those crossing the Channel appear to have "strong" claims to asylum, with the majority hailing from Iran, according to the National Crime Agency (NCA).

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-50813246

??

The journey from Iran to UK involves multiple borders & water crossings and takes the board back several pages in a never ending game of snakes-and-ladders. I appreciate your answer but i'm not having it. Genuine applicants arrive via the front door; Turning up unannounced & misbehaving upon arrival is completely unacceptable and should be met with zero tollerance.

[simple1]

20 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You are posting government figures as fact. Those two are definitely not the same, especially when it comes to immigration. You another twisted argument too: I stated unaccompanied child migrants, which you changed to all asylum seekers. 

 

Done my homework sir! I found they are still letting in gimmigrants of all categories. When the government figures are down to a big fat zero, will it be acceptable. Only then can we start to rescind the asylum or protection grants of the past twenty years or more.

 

That additional 5,993 Family reunion visas were issued to partners and children of those previously granted asylum or humanitarian protection in the UK is the most telling. Is that why they are sending all those young men? 

 

 

 

 

You are posting government figures as fact.

 

Correct, unless you can empirically prove otherwise, your opinion counts for nothing, same with your conjectures.

 

I stated unaccompanied child migrants, which you changed to all asylum seekers. 

 

Did I? think you're misrepresenting my observation. However, until they are assessed otherwise, unaccompanied child asylum seekers are exactly that.

 

I'm over responding to your opinions, so carry on your @#$% with your fellow travellers - bye

Edited August 24, 2020 by simple1

[CorpusChristie]

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You are posting government figures as fact.

 

Correct, unless you can empirically prove otherwise, your opinion counts for nothing, same with your other conjectures.

 

I stated unaccompanied child migrants, which you changed to all asylum seekers. 

 

Did I? think you're misrepresenting my observation. However, until they are assessed otherwise, unaccompanied child asylum seekers are exactly that.

 

 

   A 15 year old child asylum seeker attending a UK school as a pupil

[simple1]

20 minutes ago, evadgib said:

??

The journey from Iran to UK involves multiple borders & water crossings and takes the board back several pages in a never ending game of snakes-and-ladders. I appreciate your answer but i'm not having it. Genuine applicants arrive via the front door; Turning up unannounced & misbehaving upon arrival is completely unacceptable and should be met with zero tollerance.

tell me how genuine applicants can turn up at the 'front door' in the UK. In addition, you are again ignoring HMG enacted law.

[sirocco]

Well, tell me, crossing deserts, oceans, kids get old quickly.

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

tell me how genuine applicants can turn up at the 'front door' in the UK. In addition, you are again ignoring HMG enacted law.

- The same way that each and every person reading this has ever ventured abroad.

- The one that allows taxpayers to compulsorily fund a;- nautical uber service?; healthcheck on arrival?; coach to any major city?; open ended 4* hotel?

Did I miss anything?

[EVENKEEL]

Embrace them all with open, caring, loving arms. Provide them with nice apartments, food, clothes, education, medical care for at least 12 mil of em and then you can begin to understand the USA's plight with illegals.

[Jai Dee]

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[stevenl]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

You are posting government figures as fact. <snip>

Of course, those are the facts. Your facts are probably different, also called alternative facts.

[simple1]

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[Loiner]

24 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Of course, those are the facts. Your facts are probably different, also called alternative facts.

Government figures come and go. Sometimes we know they are nowhere near the truth. Sometimes they even admit to getting them wrong.

[TooBigToFit]

England owes it to them to let them in after centuries of pilfering the world. A lot of nations owe it to the rest of the world. And within nations debts are due. Or maybe nothing is due.

[3NUMBAS]

quite a few are being sent back by plane as theyre not genuine seekers

[kingdong]

24 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

quite a few are being sent back by plane as theyre not genuine seekers

at great expense.

[Scott]

Off-topic, bickering, baiting posts have been remove.   Continue and face a suspension. 

 

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

 

[luckyluke]

13 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Embrace them all with open, caring, loving arms. Provide them with nice apartments, food, clothes, education, medical care... 

I believe not really the choice of the majority of the people. 

But from the government it is.  However some are convinced government will change their way of doing soon.   We will have to wait a little longer to know what the new priorities of the U.K. government will be. 

 

[luckyluke]

10 hours ago, Loiner said:

Government figures come and go. Sometimes we know they are nowhere near the truth. Sometimes they even admit to getting them wrong.

I refer to government figures as correct when they suit me. 

I am convinced many are like me.