Black man shot in back by police in Wisconsin city, governor says, curfew imposed

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed. 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Video says otherwise. The first shooting that happened, he was not the first to open fire. 
 

He was engaged first. 
 

I have been over this 10 billion times in this thread and people are going to believe whatever they WANT to believe, even in the face of insurmountable video evidence to the contrary. 

 

Noteworthy that you almost never post any legitimate sources or attribution for the various claims you make here...

[Mama Noodle]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Not when they're a teenager in illegal possession of a rifle who, presumably, went out looking to attack protesters and illegally take the law into his own hands... Since where he allegedly did the shootings was nowhere related to his home/family etc...  He was out trying to be a vigilante and allegedly killed people... That's the psycho in the scene.

Another who just believes whatever they want. 
 

If you can show me proof that the kid “went out looking to attack protesters” in any way - I’ll concede. Until then you’re posting fake news. 
 

Did you know hamburger arm pistol guy posted on FB that he regrets not being able to empty his clip into the kid? Bet you didn’t know that the kid has not retained the same lawyer as Nick Sandmann and he’s no doubt gonna have a field day with that FB post. 

[Mama Noodle]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Noteworthy that you almost never post any legitimate sources or attribution for the various claims you make here...

You go first, bud. 

[Saint Nick]

21 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

He shouldn’t have done that, and he’s gonna pay a price for it, but as far as “shooting people” goes - that was self defense. No matter the circumstances, every person has the right to defend themselves from a violent mob of psychos. 
 

What’s so hard to understand about that?

"...but as far as “shooting people” goes - that was self defense."

No, it very well wasn't!

He had shot a person FIRST and then was attacked by the "violent mob of psychos"!

You are making excuses for a TERRORIST!

 

[Saint Nick]

21 minutes ago, JimGant said:

Read the reports. His knife was on the floormat. That's why in the video he is leaning down, no doubt retrieving the knife. They should teach the police how to pistol whip in these situations -- would save a bullet and thousand of man hours managing a riot.

The claim is, that he was carrying the knife!

That's why the cops were allegedly shouting at him to drop it!

Later ist was claimed he reached into the car and they found a knife there!

So which is it?

Was he carrying a knife, that he actually could drop, following police - orders OR was it in the car and he reached for it?

 

[Saint Nick]

24 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Video says otherwise. The first shooting that happened, he was not the first to open fire. 
 

He was engaged first. 
 

I have been over this 10 billion times in this thread and people are going to believe whatever they WANT to believe, even in the face of insurmountable video evidence to the contrary. 
 

 

There are NUMEROUS reports, that the chase scene, you so emphatically mention over and over and over and over...was NOT the beginning of the whole shabbang!

Talking about believing what you want to believe!

[Saint Nick]

15 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Another who just believes whatever they want. 
 

If you can show me proof that the kid “went out looking to attack protesters” in any way - I’ll concede. Until then you’re posting fake news. 
 

Did you know hamburger arm pistol guy posted on FB that he regrets not being able to empty his clip into the kid? Bet you didn’t know that the kid has not retained the same lawyer as Nick Sandmann and he’s no doubt gonna have a field day with that FB post. 

Proof?

a 17 YEAR OLD...with an illegal firearm...drives over the state- border...to - as he himself said- "protect businesses" ...which is not his job and none of his business...and is seen later in numerous videos...strutting around like a Seal Team6- member, giving handsigns and being "friendly" with the police...then shoots someone with said illegal firearm (presumably "protecting "businesses")...gets chased by people, trying to get hold of him BECAUSE HE KILLED SOMEONE ALREADY...shoots 2 more people, of which one dies...is heard saying "I killed someone"...walks passed (min) 3 police cars UNTOUCHED...gets into his car and drives home...

...fake news, huh?

Edit: as for the facebook - post: he WASN'T able to empty his whole clip into "the kid", which means HE DIDN'T!

So he killed no one- "the kid" did!

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Saint Nick

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

Edit: as for the facebook - post: he WASN'T able to empty his whole clip into "the kid", which means HE DIDN'T!

So he killed no one- "the kid" did!

Uh huh, what it did show was that he INTENDED to shoot the kid and regrets he wasn’t able to, and he wasn’t able to shoot the kid because....

 

Kid damn near blew his arm off. 
 

So the whole “murder” “innocent protester” narrative just got nuked. 

[Mama Noodle]

23 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Noteworthy that you almost never post any legitimate sources or attribution for the various claims you make here...

That’s funny, I’ve been the first to provide evidence that Blake had a knife, first to provide scanner audio showing the cops knew who he was and that he had warrants. First to provide evidence that the cops were telling him to “drop the knife” and first to show that he was tased and fought with the cops. 
 

What have you done? Nothing but whine about militias and white supremacists and deflect all day long. 

[Saint Nick]

2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

Uh huh, what it did show was that he INTENDED to shoot the kid and regrets he wasn’t able to, and he wasn’t able to shoot the kid because....

 

Kid damn near blew his arm off. 
 

So the whole “murder” “innocent protester” narrative just got nuked. 

What are you on about?

"The kid" killed a person before that incident you base your whole BS- argument on!

Then he was chased by bystanders, who attacked him with a skateboard (uuuuuiiii) and a handgun!

Because...you know...HE KILLED SOMEONE AND HAD A BIG@$$ GUN!

Quiet obviously, having a peaceful conversation with wannabe- Rambo was a bit out of the question!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

So we know a bit more about the 17-year-old shooter, who is described as a high school dropout and police service lover... Authorities have now clarified that the charges against him, as expected, include both of the two deaths and the third shooting injury.

 

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Rittenhouse. He was charged Thursday with six counts — including two homicide charges — in a criminal complaint that accused him of killing two people and injuring a third during the Kenosha unrest on Tuesday night.

 

He had tried to join the Marine Corps but was rejected:

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Rittenhouse attempted to join the Marine Corps in January but was disqualified from serving after discussing his options with recruiters, said service spokeswoman Yvonne Carlock.

 

He is/was, predictably, a Trump fan who liked to post videos assembling and firing his guns:

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he attended a Trump rally in Des Moines, sitting in the front row and posting a TikTok video from the Jan. 30 event, BuzzFeed News reported. 

 

The Post story goes on to report that Rittenhouse had driven about 20 miles from his home in Illinois to Keneosha Wis. armed with a rifle and a medical kit. Their report says he was in violation of the 8 pm curfew at the time, and likewise as a minor was not legally allowed to openly carry a firearm under Wisconsin law, but police that night didn't challenge him on either issue.

 

The Post report also says Rittenhouse appears to have been among the group of armed vigilantes that police in an armored vehicle threw water bottles to and thanked for being there, as captured on video at the time.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/27/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-protests/

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Mama Noodle]

7 minutes ago, Saint Nick said:

What are you on about?

"The kid" killed a person before that incident you base your whole BS- argument on!

 

Did not shoot first, did not attack first. Facts are painful for you, I’m sure. 
 

First shooting

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

[Mama Noodle]

6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

He is/was, predictably, a Trump fan:

I just think it’s hilarious that after months of riots and looting and deaths and assault, the one that FINALLY triggers you all is.... Rifle kid. 
 

So blatantly partisan it’s laughable. 

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Did not shoot first, did not attack first. Facts are painful for you, I’m sure. 
 

First shooting

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

Your link does not support your claim.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

Then what is the relevance of him, reaching into the car?

Did he have a second, bigger knife there?

Also: if he dropped the knife, when he was shot, he posed no threat at all, because -as you may remember - he was shot FROM BEHIND!

Waiting for mor bogus theories!

Please- entertain me!

Reaching for a gun perhaps.

[EVENKEEL]

1 hour ago, Saint Nick said:

It's not a "boycott"- it's a strike!

Looks the same, but is very different!

Either way, who cares.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Did not shoot first, did not attack first. Facts are painful for you, I’m sure. 
 

First shooting

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

 

What's unexplained, and probably unknown at this point, is why the various protesters were chasing him prior to the first shooting he did, assuming the NYT's reconstruction is accurate.

 

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He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away.

 

And then, of course, it's more than a bit curious that with the NYT's reference to all the various gunfire occurring at the time, Rittenhouse seems to be the only person who actually shot and killed anyone.

 

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Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.

 

As I said in a prior post, he had no business being there in the first place, in violation of curfew, in illegal possession of a rifle, and 20+ miles away from his home. He was being a vigilante, when he should have been at home watching Charles Bronson movies on TV and eating popcorn.  But now he's in jail and facing homicide charges.

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Mama Noodle]

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Your link does not support your claim.

Maybe you understand words differently than me but, kid did not shoot first, was trying to run away from the mob BEFORE the first shooting, he was being pursued by the mob BEFORE the first shooting, heard a gunshot and was lunged at by a rioter who ended up dead. That’s shooting #1. 
 

That is in no way what you and all the others have been saying. 
 

[Mama Noodle]

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

What's unexplained, and probably unknown at this point, is why the various protesters were chasing him prior to the first shooting he did, assuming the NYT's reconstruction is accurate.

 

 

And then, of course, it's more than a bit curious that with the NYT's reference to all the various gunfire occurring at the time, Rittenhouse seems to be the only person who actually shot and killed anyone.

 

 

As I said in a prior post, he had no business being there in the first place, in violation of curfew, in illegal possession of a rifle, and 20+ miles away from his home. He was being a vigilante, when he should have been at home watching Charles Bronson movies on TV and eating popcorn.  But now he's in jail and facing homicide charges.

 

Or, you could just say, “yes Mama Noodle, you were right and have been right all along, I was wrong and shouldn’t have insinuated that you were lying” 

 

That would be sufficient. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Or, you could just say, “yes Mama Noodle, you were right and have been right all along, I was wrong and shouldn’t have insinuated that you were lying” 

 

That would be sufficient. 

 

I've said what I've said all along... he's charged with homicide for killing two people and wounding a third. He was a minor in violation of curfew and in illegal possession of a rifle who had no business being out a night in the middle of such a protest. He went out looking for trouble, and he found it.

 

[Rimmer]

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[rvaviator]

On 8/26/2020 at 6:44 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Nope, 17 yrs of qualifying 9 mm, shotgun and M-14. And you?

Do you think you would have been able to put a few 9mm slugs in the guys leg from that distance ?

Edited August 28, 2020 by rvaviator
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[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

Do you think you would have been able to put a few 9mm slugs in the guys leg from that distance ?

Why did three officers even let it get to that stage.

[rvaviator]

On 8/26/2020 at 9:02 PM, BritManToo said:

I always thought it was the IRA bombing Mrs. Thatcher in Brighton that scared the UK government into submission.

..... and I was living in Brighton at the time.

and 'funny' is is not that the IRA (terrorist organization)  received donation from many white Americans  who supported the 'freedom fight' .... NORAD was it ?

[Tippaporn]

57 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

<snip> He was being a vigilante, . . . <snip>

You need to get your verbiage right.  A vigilante is someone who takes the law into his own hands.  From what is known Rittenhouse was there to defend property.  That is not the definition of a vigilante.

[rvaviator]

On 8/27/2020 at 12:34 PM, bodga said:

The ones looting should be shot.

Did you listen to what the owner was saying toward the end ? 'We have to come together' 'We have to solve this problem together ......'  

 

So now you want to make looting a capital offense ?

[xylophone]

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

You need to get your verbiage right.  A vigilante is someone who takes the law into his own hands.  From what is known Rittenhouse was there to defend property.  That is not the definition of a vigilante.

Quote TallGuyJohninBkk: As I said in a prior post, he had no business being there in the first place, in violation of curfew, in illegal possession of a rifle, and 20+ miles away from his home.

 

He took the law into his own hands and was nowhere close to "defending his property".

[rvaviator]

On 8/27/2020 at 12:46 PM, Sujo said:

Humour me. Why can trump fix it after the election but cannot fix it now.

Sound like a fair question to me ..

 

After all Mr T have had 4 years to make a great harmonious and inclusive society  .... Making America Great again ..  So now .. the slogan should be .. Making 'America even greater' .... 

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Quote TallGuyJohninBkk: As I said in a prior post, he had no business being there in the first place, in violation of curfew, in illegal possession of a rifle, and 20+ miles away from his home.

 

He took the law into his own hands and was nowhere close to "defending his property".

TallGuyJohninBkk's quote is irrelevant to my point.

 

In what way did he take the law into his own hands?  Was he trying to bust illegal protesters?  No.  So be specific in how he was taking the law into his own hands.  Pretend you're in a courtroom and you have to be factual and BS wont cut it.

 

I didn't write "his property," I wrote "property."  Don't start making things up now . . .