Trump alleges plane of 'thugs' being probed, but other officials cannot confirm it

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 9/2/2020 at 6:56 AM, PatOngo said:

Well, that's about as clear and concise as he gets! Your redneck supporters will believe you Donald, they seem to believe ALL your BS!

 

It sounded to me like Trump was talking about his own federal Homeland Security and Border Patrol thugs...

 

 

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The president, seeking re-election on a promise to restore "law and order," told Fox News the plane was "completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that" adding: "Here were like seven people on the plane like this person and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage."

 

You know, the kinds that have been grabbing civilians off the streets, throwing them into unmarked vehicles, refusing to identify themselves, refusing to say why or on what charges they have been detaining people... and then in the end, as best as I can follow in the news... often releasing them hours or a few days later. Those thugs...

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/18/portland-oreland-ag-lawsuit/

 

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Oregon attorney general sues federal agencies for allegedly violating protesters’ civil rights

 

PORTLAND, Ore. — The Oregon attorney general filed a lawsuit late Friday night alleging that the federal government had violated Oregonians’ civil rights by seizing and detaining them without probable cause during protests against police brutality in the past week.

 

The legal action comes after days of intensifying clashes between the Trump administration and Portland officials, who have accused federal agencies of heavy-handed tactics that inflame unrest and threaten citizens.
 

Department of Homeland Security agents have swarmed the city in recent days, arguing that they are needed to restore order after nearly two months of demonstrations. 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Nout]

Does their mode of transport really matter? I think cars and coaches are the main way the arsonists and rioters carry out interstate travel.

[Morch]

Just now, Nout said:

Does their mode of transport really matter? I think cars and coaches are the main way the arsonists and rioters carry out interstate travel.

 

I'd question the Enterprise's transporter room staff. Just in case.

 

[johnnybangkok]

"completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that" adding: "Here were like seven people on the plane like this person and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage."

 

In other news:- severa famous Goth bands to include 7 person band Siouxsie and the Banshees have cancelled their forthcoming Washington gig siteing 'security issues'.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by johnnybangkok

[wabothai]

22 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Do you have any actual evidence that there isnt an investigation going on ?

What isn't.... isn't

[CorpusChristie]

1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said:

Add criminal:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/trump-suggests-voting-twice-once-by-mail-and-once-in-person/ar-BB18Epfr?ocid=spartanntp

 

He was asking people to test the system out to see whether it works or not 

[Morch]

15 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

He was asking people to test the system out to see whether it works or not 

 

Very believable. Of course, he did not. And, of course, there are proper ways of testing systems. Doubt any of it would make a dent in your auto-defense of anything that comes out of Trump's mouth or Tweeter account.

 

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Very believable. Of course, he did not. 

 

Read the article, where it is written 

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Read the article, where it is written 

Yawn. Spin it whichever way you like, it's still covfefe stuff. While at it, please don't mutilate my posts to fit your responses.

Edited September 3, 2020 by Morch

[Eric Loh]

Another of Trump’s litany of false claims to add to his 20k and counting list. Not even a topic for discussion. Shouldn’t give him any more coverage.

[ballpoint]

Scapegoating minorities as cause of country's problems.

Fomenting trouble and encouraging violence towards anti regime protestors.

Calling upon attorney general to prosecute political opponents on "Trumped" up charges.

Use of conspiracy theories, diversions and outright lies to denigrate opponents.

Supporting armed "Trump Youth", including excusing and condoning murder by same.

 

Fascism has a new name and face.  Be afraid America.

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

Yawn. Spin it whichever way you like, it's still covfefe stuff. While at it, please don't mutilate my posts to fit your responses.

As long as the context isn't changed, its acceptable to edit posts you are replying to 

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

As long as the context isn't changed, its acceptable to edit posts you are replying to 

The "context" included it being illegal and that there are proper ways of "testing". Deflect away.

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

He was asking people to test the system out to see whether it works or not 

Which is a criminal offense in some states.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

11 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

He was asking people to test the system out to see whether it works or not 

He is asking people to commit voter fraud and you lose whatever credibility you have defending it....that's Ok Corpus....Dear President will pardon you....vote as many times as your MAGA heart desires. 

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

He is asking people to commit voter fraud and you lose whatever credibility you have defending it....that's Ok Corpus....Dear President will pardon you....vote as many times as your MAGA heart desires. 

No, read the whole article , rather than just the highlighted bits .

He suggested that some people vote twice to make sure the system to stop voter fraud works .

If some people were allowed to vote twice , this would be proof that the system doesnt work

[Credo]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

No, read the whole article , rather than just the highlighted bits .

He suggested that some people vote twice to make sure the system to stop voter fraud works .

If some people were allowed to vote twice , this would be proof that the system doesnt work

So, he just wants some people to break the law and commit a felony?   Does that offer come with a pardon?  Oh, wait, he can't pardon if he isn't President.  

 

[Scott]

Baiting, bickering posts and replies removed.  

 

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Add criminal:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/trump-suggests-voting-twice-once-by-mail-and-once-in-person/ar-BB18Epfr?ocid=spartanntp

 

I watched his speech during one of my infrequent tv viewings and there was nothing "criminal" in what he actually said, IMO, but keep pounding that anti Trump drum by all means.

Four more years.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I watched his speech during one of my infrequent tv viewings and there was nothing "criminal" in what he actually said, IMO, but keep pounding that anti Trump drum by all means.

Four more years.

Voting twice is a felony in North Carolina, and he is clearly encouraging people to do that.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

11 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

He suggested that some people vote twice

Stop there....end of discussion...encouraging voter fraud....it is not up to the common citizen to "test" the system by breaking the law. Dear President is encouraging felonies to be executed. What is the difference in that suggestion and suggesting we all try to hack the RNC to "test" the security? EXACT same principle and still illegal, even though Dear President is telling you to do it. (as if that guy knows right from wrong anyhow)

[CorpusChristie]

10 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

Stop there....end of discussion..

If you claim the discussion has ended, you really should stop right there as well and not add anymore to the discussion 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

If you claim the discussion has ended, you really should stop right there as well and not add anymore to the discussion 

I know how much you love to mod the discussion so when you stop defending dear president encouraging voter fraud (which I notice now you have no defense for since my correlation equates to all of us being invited to hack the RNC, I will quit pointing out how wrong you are and the discussion will be ended ????

 

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

I know how much you love to mod the discussion so when you stop defending dear president encouraging voter fraud (which I notice now you have no defense for since my correlation equates to all of us being invited to hack the RNC, I will quit pointing out how wrong you are and the discussion will be ended ????

 

Make you mind up, has the discussion ended or not ?

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Make you mind up, has the discussion ended or not ?

Since you offer no defence then the discussion has ended. So enough of the deflection. If you have nothing to offer then dont.

[thaibreakfast]

On 9/4/2020 at 1:29 AM, CorpusChristie said:

No, read the whole article , rather than just the highlighted bits .

He suggested that some people vote twice to make sure the system to stop voter fraud works .

If some people were allowed to vote twice , this would be proof that the system doesnt work

Too bad there aren't some authorized agencies such as something called The Dept. of Justice that could carry out such an investigation. Instead, as in all matters of criminal investigations, it has to left to a hardy band of citizen volunteers. I just hope that they are carrying badges and wearing decoder rings.

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎9‎/‎4‎/‎2020 at 9:59 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I watched his speech during one of my infrequent tv viewings and there was nothing "criminal" in what he actually said, IMO, but keep pounding that anti Trump drum by all means.

Four more years.

Yes, in your opinion but that says it all. In several states it is a criminal offence to vote twice. A lame excuse "I did it to test the system" doesn't work in a court case.

[MajarTheLion]

On 9/1/2020 at 7:01 PM, Tug said:

Hummm.......how did thease thugs get past security at the airport lol just trump gas lighting more bs

What measures are in place that would prevent thugs from getting past airport security?

[MajarTheLion]

On 9/1/2020 at 7:33 PM, Chomper Higgot said:

I saw the interview, it was as clear an indication as I’ve seen that his head isn’t on this planet.

 

Armed thugs boarding flights - utter nonsense.

 

He’s away with the fairies.

 

 

TSA fails security checks by DHS 95% of the time.

 

In a series of trials, the Department of Homeland Security was able to smuggle fake explosives, weapons and other contraband past airport screeners in major cities across the country, according to ABC News. Officials briefed on the Homeland Security Inspector General’s investigation told the station that the TSA failed 67 out of 70 tests conducted by the department’s Red Teams — undercover passengers tasked with identifying weaknesses in the screening process, NJ.com reports.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tsa-fails-95-percent-tests-homeland-security_n_7485558

[candide]

5 minutes ago, MajarTheLion said:

TSA fails security checks by DHS 95% of the time.

 

In a series of trials, the Department of Homeland Security was able to smuggle fake explosives, weapons and other contraband past airport screeners in major cities across the country, according to ABC News. Officials briefed on the Homeland Security Inspector General’s investigation told the station that the TSA failed 67 out of 70 tests conducted by the department’s Red Teams — undercover passengers tasked with identifying weaknesses in the screening process, NJ.com reports.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tsa-fails-95-percent-tests-homeland-security_n_7485558

The way Trump described it, they were openly carrying gear, to the point that some passengers got afraid/ disturbed about it. He did not make any claim about thugs succeeding in secretely sneaking arms in despite controls.