UK warns EU on Brexit: We won't blink first

[puipuitom]

Teh times of the "Old Empire are gone already a 100 years. The English still think they can negociate as during Kitchener: "We insist and dictate the terms, you follow humbly, and.,. when you behave well, we might consider a few extra crumbs for you".

67 mln towards 45o mln Union.  Ilove this cartoon. With many thanks to Jos Collignon and the Volkskrant.

Second: why with a country, who even do not horour their agreements of even less as a year ago: Financial times of today: UK plan to undermine withdrawal treaty puts Brexit talks at risk.. or https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54051933 or https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/06/five-weeks-clinch-brexit-deal-uk-move-boris-johnson-to-say

 

Just 4 months left and then... Schengen visa, international driver licence and insurances, import duty according WTO for all imports into the EU ( 10% on cars etc) . The British can buy their fresh from Canada , Australia etc. 

 

 

[Loiner]

25 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Oh, that one's easy. The tories won a landslide victory because our dull-witted electorate proved just how stupid they truly are when they voted against a fairer voting system and chose to stick with a model that clearly works against their interests. 

 

3 minutes ago, transam said:

That was an excellent post, just shows us where you are coming from. Thank you..????

The populace were wrong again and you are right..........................????

The 'fairer voting system' was rejected by referendum in 2011, long before Brexit. The actual Brexit referendum was a simple majority - can say fairer than that. The 2019 GE worked in favour of the electorate's previous and updated wishes, so also pretty fair.

The Remainers (and EUs) are always coming from their notions of superiority over Brexiteers. We the Brexiteers were not stupid enough to settle for May and the Remainers' dirty tricks and lies about not actually Leaving. Now Boris's team are negotiating they are not stupid enough to allow capitulation to a Non-Leaving deal. I guess the populace was right all along and the stupidity is stuck with the EU at the moment.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Teh times of the "Old Empire are gone already a 100 years. The English still think they can negociate as during Kitchener: "We insist and dictate the terms, you follow humbly, and.,. when you behave well, we might consider a few extra crumbs for you".

67 mln towards 45o mln Union.  Ilove this cartoon. With many thanks to Jos Collignon and the Volkskrant.

Second: why with a country, who even do not horour their agreements of even less as a year ago: Financial times of today: UK plan to undermine withdrawal treaty puts Brexit talks at risk.. or https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54051933 or https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/06/five-weeks-clinch-brexit-deal-uk-move-boris-johnson-to-say

 

Just 4 months left and then... Schengen visa, international driver licence and insurances, import duty according WTO for all imports into the EU ( 10% on cars etc) . The British can buy their fresh from Canada , Australia etc. 

 

 

I hope you're not having sleepless nights chap.....

 I think the Dandy comic is still available online for your cartoons.....☺️

[nauseus]

46 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

They do. When it comes to fishing rights, the ECJ, state aid, they claim that that is not what people voted for.  Even though what people voted for has already been implemented and is done. 
 

 

You said: "Still brexiteers try to tell others people in fact voted for many other things, such as the details of a free trade agreement, which, of course, was never part of the referendum and ballot paper". But they didn't. 

[nauseus]

46 minutes ago, david555 said:

You still don't realize this is not my country.....  oh boy ???? ..! Nauseaus put himself on the wrong foot again ????

Really. Give us another clue then.

[david555]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Really. Give us another clue then.

Why …. are you not intelligent enough ?. ????I am sure many know already ….., mean time the fun is mine ????untill some colleague brexiteers help you out …..5555

Edited September 7, 2020 by david555

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You said: "Still brexiteers try to tell others people in fact voted for many other things, such as the details of a free trade agreement, which, of course, was never part of the referendum and ballot paper". But they didn't. 

So did you vote for a Brexit with continued access to the single market or did you vote for a Brexit on WTO terms?

 

[vogie]

7 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Really. Give us another clue then.

Good grief, you don't have to be Hercule Poirot to know.????

[Loiner]

 

 

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So did you vote for a Brexit with continued access to the single market or did you vote for a Brexit on WTO terms?

 

Neither.

[crobe]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I agree and that goes for the fishing too. The trouble with the EU, the Scottish mafia on here and the EU sympathisers is that they are a protectionist racquet.

 

When a country like the UK wants to protect itself like its fishing, like its business then the named lot start stamping and kicking their feet.

 

Finally the UK has a person in Frost who is putting the UK first. So the Dutch, French and the Irish posters are in arms over the fact that the UK is looking after itself.

 

 

I think you also need to know a bit of history

It was the UK in the 1970s who were overfishing and exploiting another country's sea territory around Iceland claiming "historic rights".

In fact the UK lost out, as Iceland threatened to withdraw from NATO and then the UN mandated a 200 mile exclusion zone which is now the normal sea-border rule.

This is just to point out that there is some hypocrisy involved from those who insist on protecting "British National Waters"

 

It is however, true that the EU agreements on fishing have led to widespread overcatching and decimation of some fish species so any new "policy" should be geared to replenishing the fish stock otherwise there will be no fishing industry to protect.

 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

Good grief, you don't have to be Hercule Poirot to know.????

Ooh Vogie, pouvez vous aider moi?

[david555]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So did you vote for a Brexit with continued access to the single market or did you vote for a Brexit on WTO terms?

 

No the brexiteers voted for something not on the ballot paper ,

"have the same advantages from the club as before while being not a member and for free …..as " they (the E.U. ) need us (the U.K. ) more than we (U,K.) need them " ????

[puipuitom]

9 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

Good on the UK. Be tough and protect our fisheries.

The only one, who speaks about fisheries are the British. The EU speaks about financials, industrial output, 

[david555]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Good grief, you don't have to be Hercule Poirot to know.????

At least you Vogie show he has (some..) intelligence ????….. hut why in heavens name you vote for this ….Boris guy then ?

[vogie]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

No the brexiteers voted for something not on the ballot paper ,

"have the same advantages from the club as before while being not a member and for free …..as " they (the E.U. ) need us (the U.K. ) more than we (U,K.) need them " ????

What sort of club exists that some members pay other members subscriptions.............oh I know the EU Jolly Boys Club.

[welovesundaysatspace]

18 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You said: "Still brexiteers try to tell others people in fact voted for many other things, such as the details of a free trade agreement, which, of course, was never part of the referendum and ballot paper". But they didn't. 

They do. When it comes to fishing rights, the ECJ, state aid, they claim that that is not what people voted for.  Even though what people voted for has already been implemented and is done. 

[david555]

2 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

The only one, who speaks about fisheries are the British. The EU speaks about financials, industrial output, 

yes, a part for A'dam , Paris & Frankfurt ….???? handling our Euro ourselves 

[Rookiescot]

11 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Neither.

So what did you vote for then? Given that either remaining in the single market or leaving the single market are the only possible options.

[Loiner]

2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

They do. When it comes to fishing rights, the ECJ, state aid, they claim that that is not what people voted for.  Even though what people voted for has already been implemented and is done. 

You still think Brexiteers are stupid? We voted to Leave. Not half in half stay, which is only what has been implemented so far.

At the end of the transition period we will have fully Left. No half stay deals that keep us tied to EU.

[Rookiescot]

 

 

You really can't make this stuff up.

Oh wait. They did.

[nauseus]

Just now, welovesundaysatspace said:

They do. When it comes to fishing rights, the ECJ, state aid, they claim that that is not what people voted for.  Even though what people voted for has already been implemented and is done. 

If the details of these negotiations mean that we are still subject to EU rules, laws, regulations and conditions, evidently, it is not done. The EU want to include all the things that you mention as leverage in a trade deal and that is the problem.

[david555]

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

What sort of club exists that some members pay other members subscriptions.............oh I know the EU Jolly Boys Club.

Damn you are becoming smarter & smarter ….. but why you would have to like something to do with them ….. just take your independence country and run it by yourself... on yourself ''alone" ...

Edited September 7, 2020 by david555

[welovesundaysatspace]

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

They are illegal and the EU's problem from the day they set foot in the EU. (...) Nice try, but they are very definitely still an EU problem.

If they are the EU’s problem, then what you’re moaning about? Not your business. 
 

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

None of them manage to get to the UK without EU aid.

What “aid”? 

 

45 minutes ago, Loiner said:

How does the EU allow the ones who claim asylum in Spain or Greece to travel all the way to UK?

People don’t need anyone allow them to travel. They just travel. People are free. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You still think Brexiteers are stupid? We voted to Leave. Not half in half stay, which is only what has been implemented so far.

At the end of the transition period we will have fully Left. No half stay deals that keep us tied to EU.

Someone posted the ballot paper above. You voted to end EU membership. You didn’t vote on aspects of a FTA. 

[nauseus]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So what did you vote for then? Given that either remaining in the single market or leaving the single market are the only possible options.

I just wanted the UK to leave, same as the option on the ballot paper. And same as WLSAS's post 115 above.

Edited September 7, 2020 by nauseus
+ And same as WLSAS's post 115 above.

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

If the details of these negotiations mean that we are still subject to EU rules, laws, regulations and conditions, evidently, it is not done.

Wrong. Because you only voted to end EU membership. 

 

 

[pixelaoffy]

5 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Are you suggesting that the main backers of Vote Leave never made hundreds of millions on Brexit night and are not lined up to make even more as they crash the UK economy? Are you suggesting that our government, from the very top down, is not genuinely corrupt?

I'm.suggesting...no I'm telling you the facts . The EU is a protectionist racket that only protects it's strong members! Not had it's account verified for years ! And the fact it still whines about the UK leaving. It wants it's money. Hates anyone leaving it's club .. maybe others might do the same soon 

Edited September 7, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

I just wanted the UK to leave, same as the option on the ballot paper.

So you didnt know what you were voting for? Or just didnt care?

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Wrong. Because you only voted to end EU membership. 

 

 

Time for afternoon tea. Thank goodness!