@RR2020 > Many thanks for sharing the link to this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

As you wrote it should be MANDATORY viewing for anybody with an opinion on covid-19, lock-downs, social distancing, face-masks and a 2nd wave luring.

Highly recommended to put things into perspective, and a Voice of Reason in these times of hysterical panic football where 1 case can make nation-wide headlines.

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

The caseload in Europe is vastly higher than it ever was in Thailand. Totally different situation.

 

If there were over a hundred new COVID deaths a day taking place in Thailand, and over a thousand hospitalizations, as there is in Europe, obviously widespread testing would be indicated.

 

They are not by the way testing millions (plural) each day in Europe. More like 800k - 1 mill. And it is not random testing.

 

 

 

 

I have to disagree strongy Sheril!

 

There are not hundreds of deaths in European countries now!!! This is simply wrong. For example Germany with 82 million people had between zero (!) and maximum ten deaths per day during the last weeks. Single digit numbers per day! To say hundreds new Covid deaths a day is no only vastly exagerated, it is simply not correct. 

 

Germany alone now does around 200,000 test per day. Europe, with around 8 times more people than Germany, might be in the millions per day. But I agree that Europe with more than 600 million people must not be compared with Thailand with its 67 million. But how many tests does Thailand daily, compared to Germany?

 

And regarding random testing: Germany does random testing. In the Germany state of Bavaria, the have test booths at the motorways to test everyone who wants to be tested. Mainly for those coming back from holidays in Austria, Italy and Eastern Europe. I call this random testing. Also, it is this random testing that increases the positive tests strongly, because so many asymptomatic people are tested. 

 

Overall, I am sure that the Covid-situation in Thailand is not much different to well performing countries in Europe. It is naive to believe the official numbers in Thailand. Sorry, I am not that gullible to believe this government anything. Thailand performs well, sure. But neither better nor worse than European countries. And, whatever success Thailand has, this has not so much to do with the government. More with climatic and social circumstances here.

 

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by Flying Saucage

15 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I am not sure the photo is actually related to the actual case.

Certainly living up to your pseudonym!

16 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Isn't incubation period the time from exposure to when symptoms appear? 

Other countries test millions yet Thailand test 100’S .. 

4 hours ago, RR2020 said:

This video should be mandatory viewing for everyone to explain Covid-19.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

 

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Excellent video. Ivor Cummins does a great job of presenting the information.

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by vermin on arrival

15 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Seems to be a few Thais returning and test positive on arrival but don't have to test prior to boarding the plane so also possible he caught it on the flight.It seem beyond the pale that they do this as can be seen some people might get through undetected because of this.It only takes one.  

And if he did catch it from the plane non-tested Thai occupants, it would not have happened while in Thailand so classified as catching it "overseas".

2 hours ago, Miami007 said:

What about the 3 Thai residents who flew from BKK to Tokyo and tested positive on arrival in Japan?

They all got it on the plane? Lol

But they are being counted as Japanese cases - so Thai stats look good 

Tested on arrival?  Not enough time in the air to catch it on the plane and show a response.

25 minutes ago, Millcx said:

Other countries test millions yet Thailand test 100’S .. 

Considering what spectacle is made of 1 case (with no symptoms), I'd rather prefer Thailand refraining from random testing and limit testing to those with actual symptoms (and when positive > those they came in close contact with). 

Increased random testing would lead to inevitable false positives and positive results caused by virus-debris from people that were infected weeks ago and didn't suffer any consequences, which in their turn would lead again to nation-wide panic for nothing.

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

I believe he was infected abroad,” Yong said.

????????????????????????????????

That's Thai Style 

22 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Considering what spectacle is made of 1 case (with no symptoms), I'd rather prefer Thailand refraining from random testing and limit testing to those with actual symptoms (and when positive > those they came in close contact with). 

Increased random testing would lead to inevitable false positives and positive results caused by virus-debris from people that were infected weeks ago and didn't suffer any consequences, which in their turn would lead again to nation-wide panic for nothing.

Unless they do it in a way that would show that these cases are no cause for alarm. However, since they have so traumatized thai society through the media and government statements, it appears that your appraisal would be correct.

 

It's funny looking back at the nonsensical models for the thai epidemic presented at the time of the lockdown in March. Now the government can claim, look we saved you from all this.

17 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

You can see from the photo that the soccer player is having a tough time dealing with the infection,I hope he pulls through ok and that he has Covid insurance.

If you read the article you will see that the photo was taken on Apr 23rd so it is unlikely that it is of the footballer, who didn't arrive in Thailand until Aug 13!

2 minutes ago, sambum said:

If you read the article you will see that the photo was taken on Apr 23rd so it is unlikely that it is of the footballer, who didn't arrive in Thailand until Aug 13!

He was joking.

Easy solution: Just increase the Quarantine period from 2 weeks to 3 weeks (or maybe 4 or more).

 

Tourists can then have their 30-day holiday completly within a government-appointed hotel!

So the tests that they are doing ( 3 negatives) in Thailand aren’t valid ?

I am so grateful I am here in Bangkok and not separated from all my loved ones. 

 

That I just met. 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Yong Poovorawan, a virology expert from Bangkok’s Chulalongkorn University, said the virus incubation period in the man would have been longer than 14 days and it was unlikely to have been domestically transmitted

Irresponsible and pure speculation to say this! It is just as likely that this young footballer has been out and about Bangkok enjoying himself and has contracted the virus in Thailand.

Uncle needs to jump all over this. Bring back lockdowns, close the borders, bring back the curfew and ban all sales of alcohol. Sorry tourists, hostels, restaurants but you will be doing the nation a huge service with your sacrifice, and possible bankruptcy. But what is bankruptcy compared to the sheer hell we see from America and Europe?

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“I believe he was infected abroad,” Yong said.

Well that must be true then mustn't it. Case closed.

18 hours ago, edwardandtubs said:

Yes the doctor is talking complete nonsense. There's no evidence at all that someone can go for 14 days after exposure and not test positive.

Errrr no it's not. Some people never develop symptoms. Incubation period is the time from when you first  were exposed to the virus and when you have a positive virus test. Like anything else natural there will be some sort of bell shaped curve where a few individuals have a longer than normal incubation and some will have a very short incubation. Theories are never, ever proven....they stand only as long as a result comes along which disproves them. The theory that incubation period is 14 days is good only so long as someone finds a patient with a longer incubation period.

4 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

I hope your making that statement/question sarcastically. The photo obviously has nothing to do with the report and it's shameful that snoop1130 & the TVF Media team thought to include it.

Yes your right on it.It's also pretty shameful that this Dr Yong says that cases without symptoms are very rare and less than 1% of cases.He must think that because he's a doctor everyone will believe him.I'm surprised no reporter didn't pull him up on that statement and say that he's full of it.Appalling reporting which no doubt many will take on face value.It's a fine example of what's wrong with this whole pandemic.

3 hours ago, apetryxx said:

OMG, we’re all gonna die, Chicken Little says so!

We're definitely all going to die regardless of who says it, it's just a matter of when.

4 hours ago, Nout said:

Really good joke. Hysterical.

Thanks.It's quite subtle and I wasn't sure you'd get it.

6 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Uncle needs to jump all over this. Bring back lockdowns, close the borders, bring back the curfew and ban all sales of alcohol. Sorry tourists, hostels, restaurants but you will be doing the nation a huge service with your sacrifice, and possible bankruptcy. But what is bankruptcy compared to the sheer hell we see from America and Europe?

I hope your post is meant sarcastically.  The sheer hell of Europe?  Really?

In the Northern parts of US and in practically all of Europe, covid-19 is as good as over.  Yes, the number of positive cases are rising due to mass-testing, but with little or no deaths / serious cases.  Unfortunately the fear and panic-climate has not disappeared together with the virus.

Also, a small resurgence in deaths is bound to happen with the cold season approaching but nothing like a 2nd wave, but I already dread the over-reaction it will create.

Eye-opener video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

 

And everybody at The Malls wearing Chin Warmers Especially Ignorant Farang , it’s here People  

18 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is all about making it the world's virus, but not Thailand's. Dirty foreigners brought it back and now look......yes sarcasm.

But look back to the early days and the 36 who tested positive and 28 died.

All from China. 

That's half of all the deaths.

But it doesn't get mentioned...

3 minutes ago, Nice Boyd said:

And everybody at The Malls wearing Chin Warmers Especially Ignorant Farang , it’s here People  

Of course its here, it's there and its everywhere since the Chinese brought it direct from Wuhan...the question is why aren't we all dead yet ? ????

18 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I am not sure the photo is actually related to the actual case.

It state below the image 'April 23 2020' 

Go to a gov apointed quarantine isnt safer than self quarantine at home.

Useless F´s

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

It is already known that many infected people -- especially younger ones -- are asymptomatic. And that until/unless symptomatic cases start to appear at hospitals, their numbers are pretty small.

It would seem that Thailand's premier virologist disagrees that many cases are asymptomatic stating that they are rare and less than 1% of cases!Is he wrong?

7 hours ago, RR2020 said:

This video should be mandatory viewing for everyone to explain Covid-19.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac

 

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Another unnecessary BS video.