Popular Post webfact Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Trump's condition improving, received steroid in COVID-19 treatment, doctors say By Alexandra Alper and Doina Chiacu U.S. Navy Commander Dr. Sean Conley, the White House physician, is flanked by other doctors as he speaks to the media about U.S. President Donald Trump's health after the president was hospitalized for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) treatment, at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, U.S., October 4, 2020. REUTERS/Erin Scott WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The medical team treating President Donald Trump for COVID-19 is monitoring the condition of his lungs after he received supplemental oxygen on Friday, but declined on Sunday to provide details of what they had seen. Trump, 74, who was flown to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center outside Washington on Friday, has taken two doses of a five-day course of the intravenous antiviral drug Remdesivir, as well as the steroid dexamethasone, which is used in severe cases. Dr. Sean P. Conley acknowledged that Trump's blood oxygen levels had dropped in prior days and that he had run a high fever on Friday morning, admitting that the president's condition had been worse than previously disclosed. Conley said Trump was improving on Sunday. 2020-10-04T173419Z_1_LOV000M9LV1IN_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_HEALTH-CORONAVIRUS-TRUMP-DOCTOR-ROUGH-CUT.MP4 President Donald Trump's condition is improving as he is being treated for COVID-19 at a military hospital, and he could return to the White House as early as Monday, where his treatment would continue, the doctors leading his treatment said on Sunday. The briefing came the day after contradictory messages from the White House caused widespread confusion about the president's condition. Trump spent much of the year downplaying the risks of the COVID-19 pandemic, which has infected 7.4 million Americans, killed more than 209,000, and caused an economic downturn that has thrown millions out of work. His illness has upended his re-election campaign as it seeks to fend off Democratic challenger Joe Biden in the final month of the race, and rattled financial markets. Several members of his inner circle have also tested positive for the disease, as well as three Republican members of the U.S. Senate. Two members of the White House residence staff tested positive for COVID-19 a few weeks ago, and Trump's "body man" aide, Nicholas Luna, has also tested positive, according to a source familiar with the situation. The New Jersey Department of Health said on Sunday the White House had provided it with the names of more than 200 people who attended a Trump fundraiser at his golf club in Bedminster on Thursday, after the White House knew that adviser Hope Hicks had tested positive. Asked what tests had revealed about the condition of Trump's lungs, Conley replied: "There's some expected findings, but nothing of any major clinical concern." Conley's response suggests the X-rays revealed some signs of pneumonia, said Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease specialist at Johns Hopkins University. "The expected finding is that he has evidence of pneumonia in the X-ray. If it was normal they would just say it is normal," Adalja said. DEXAMETHASONE STEROID TREATMENT Doctors said the president had a high fever on Friday morning but had not run a fever since Friday. Dr. Brian Garibaldi said Trump was given the steroid dexamethasone in response to "transient low oxygen levels." "He received his first dose of that yesterday and our plan is to continue that for the time being," Garibaldi said. Dexamethasone is shown in studies to improve survival for patients hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19 who need extra oxygen. But it should not be given in mild cases since it can limit the body's own ability to combat the virus, according to guidelines from the Infectious Disease Society of America. Trump is also being given an experimental treatment, Regeneron's REGN-COV2, as well as zinc, Vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and aspirin, his doctors have said. "Our plan for today is to have him eat and drink, be up out of bed as much as possible, to be mobile," Garibaldi said. Trump released a four-minute video on Saturday in which he said the "real test" of his condition will come over the next few days. "Over the next period of a few days, I guess that's the real test, so we'll be seeing what happens over those next couple of days," Trump said into the camera, looking tired and wearing a jacket and open-necked shirt. He tweeted thanks to his supporters on Sunday morning and afternoon. "I really appreciate all of the fans and supporters outside of the hospital," Trump tweeted Sunday afternoon. Differing assessments of Trump's health from administration officials on Saturday left it unclear how ill the president had become since he tested positive for the coronavirus on Thursday night. Conley commented on the contradictory assessments on Sunday. "I was trying to reflect an upbeat attitude of the team and the president about the course his illness has had," Conley told reporters on Sunday. "I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction and in doing so, it came off that we were trying to hide something, which isn't necessarily true." 'AGGRESSIVE' CAMPAIGN CONTINUES A Reuters/Ipsos poll published on Sunday found Biden had opened a 10-point lead over Trump nationally, slightly wider than it has been for the past two months. Some 65% of Americans said Trump likely would not have been infected had he taken the virus more seriously - a view that half of registered Republicans polled supported. Some 55% said they did not believe Trump had been telling the truth about the virus. Trump's campaign vowed that Vice President Mike Pence, who would assume the presidency if Trump were unable to carry out his duties, would have an "aggressive" campaign schedule this week, as would Trump's three oldest children. "We can't stay in our basement or shut down the economy indefinitely. We have to take it head-on," Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller said on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday. Pence, who tested negative on Friday, is scheduled to debate Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris on Wednesday. Biden, who largely avoided direct criticism of Trump during a campaign trip to Michigan on Friday, took a more aggressive tone on Saturday while speaking to a transit workers' union, even as he wished the president well. "I'm in a little bit of a spot here, because I don't want to be attacking the president and the first lady now," Biden said, adding he hoped Trump and his wife, Melania, who also has the illness, make a full recovery. But he quickly turned to Trump's response to the pandemic, calling it "unconscionable" and blasting Trump's comment in an interview this summer that "it is what it is" when asked about the death toll. (Reporting by Alexandra Alper in Washington and Jeff Mason in Wilmington, Delaware; Additional reporting by Doina Chiacu, Katanga Johnson, Daphne Psaledakis, Steve Holland, Deena Beasley and Chris Kahn; Editing by Scott Malone, Daniel Wallis and Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-10-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Trump took a drive outside the hospital today to greet the many well wishers who have gathered outside : Here's a short video : 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ukrules said: Trump took a drive outside the hospital today to greet the many well wishers who have gathered outside : <SNIP Encouraging Personality Cult Edited October 4, 2020 by simple1 14 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, ukrules said: Trump took a drive outside the hospital today to greet the many well wishers who have gathered outside : Textbook quarantine? 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling Edited October 5, 2020 by onthedarkside Note-link above may not work with some VPN connections 19 1 2 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. and this ought to cheer him up.. He is supposed to be in isolation. He is in close contact with multiple secret service agents while in a fully communicable state, putting them in danger. This is only to stroke his insatiable ego. "Cheer him up?" Pleeeeeze 22 1 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: <SNIP> US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling Cherry picking. Latest poll (04/10) averaging a number of US polls is 52.3% disapproval for trump, 44.2% approve. IMO even 44.2% approval is an extraordinary manifestation of trump supporter 'three monkeys' syndrome. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ Could reasonably assume trump's display is in response to his doctor's misinformation on trump's condition, in that trump actually required oxygen treatment prior to being transferred to hospital. Edited October 4, 2020 by simple1 16 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling Hmmm....I think that poll is a bit off. [WASHINGTON — Joe Biden's national lead over President Donald Trump nearly doubled after Tuesday's presidential debate, with voters saying by 2-to-1 that Biden has the better temperament to be president, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.] [Biden is now ahead of Trump by 14 points among registered voters, 53 percent to 39 percent — up from his 8-point lead in the previous poll, before the debate.] [The 14-point advantage represents Biden's largest lead in the NBC News/WSJ poll during the entire campaign; his previous high was 11 points in July.] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-national-lead-over-trump-jumps-14-points-after-n1242018 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, Berkshire said: Hmmm....I think that poll is a bit off. [WASHINGTON — Joe Biden's national lead over President Donald Trump nearly doubled after Tuesday's presidential debate, with voters saying by 2-to-1 that Biden has the better temperament to be president, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.] [Biden is now ahead of Trump by 14 points among registered voters, 53 percent to 39 percent — up from his 8-point lead in the previous poll, before the debate.] [The 14-point advantage represents Biden's largest lead in the NBC News/WSJ poll during the entire campaign; his previous high was 11 points in July.] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-national-lead-over-trump-jumps-14-points-after-n1242018 Even Fox admits Biden is far ahead of 45. 7 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post taxout Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 National polls don't matter, any more than national vote. Biden could take every single vote in California and New York and it would affect nothing. Only state-by-state polls count. 9 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 26 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. His arrogance and total mishandeling of the whole pandemic has'nt gone unnoticed either. Stand by Proud Boys! 9 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. So far has spread to 23 White House staff members, hope they all roll their sleeves up! Stand by Proud Boys! 10 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fat is a type of crazy Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. and this ought to cheer him up.. Rolling up his sleeves. They showed him in a video signing documents that were blank pieces of paper which seems odd. The Express uses Democracy Institute polls that tend to be skewed to Trump and he did worse in that poll compared to last time. The state and national polls aren't good for Trump so let's see what he's got in his bag of trips besides driving around the hospital. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE Ahh the Democracy Institute Sunday Express poll Ah right wing think tank poll. Gee who would have guessed. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Looking good for Trump recovering. I guess those that wished him to die of it will be disappointed. NB I'm not referencing any poster on TVF, but plenty on "social media", from what they are saying on talkback radio here, that do wish him dead. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted October 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, thaibeachlovers said: NB I'm not referencing any poster on TVF, but plenty on "social media", from what they are saying on talkback radio here, that do wish him dead. Right wing media loves to morph from bully to victim in a second. Oh my, have some people said bad things about Trump?! So those years of putting out pictures of Obama in telescopic crosshairs is conveniently forgotten. No we didn't mean anything by it, just fun, nothing like what they are saying about Donald now .Waaaaaa coffee is up . 12 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I guess the grim reaper was busy elsewhere! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. and this ought to cheer him up.. US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/04/trump-walter-reed-drive-by-visit-criticism James Phillips, doctor of emergency medicine at George Washington University, who is an attending physician at Walter Reed, called the stunt “insanity”. “Every single person in the vehicle during that completely unnecessary Presidential ‘drive-by’ just now has to be quarantined for 14 days. They might get sick. They may die,” he wrote in a tweet. “For political theater. Commanded by Trump to put their lives at risk for theater. This is insanity.” Typical Trump stunt, ME ME ME LOOK at ME 15 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post webfact Posted October 5, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 Experts raise questions about severity of Trump's COVID-19 By Deena Beasley and Michael Erman U.S. President Donald Trump rides in front of the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, where he is being treated for the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) in Bethesda, Maryland, U.S. October 4, 2020. REUTERS/Cheriss May (Reuters) - Doctors not involved in treating President Donald Trump for COVID-19 said the fact that he has been started on dexamethasone - a generic steroid widely used in other diseases to reduce inflammation - is evidence his case is severe. Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1185880-experts-raise-questions-about-severity-of-trumps-covid-19/ 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Looking good for Trump recovering. I guess those that wished him to die of it will be disappointed. NB I'm not referencing any poster on TVF, but plenty on "social media", from what they are saying on talkback radio here, that do wish him dead. Shameful behavior... 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. and this ought to cheer him up.. US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling Typical Trump, declares he learns a lot about the virus (missing part : probably more than anyone else in the world) - and right on puts 2 persons health - and their entourage- unecessary in jeopardy. Unless the best way to get rid of a virus is to transmit it to someone else.. total authority + no responsibility = resilience. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ukrules said: Trump took a drive outside the hospital today to greet the many well wishers who have gathered outside : Here's a short video : Never give up the chance to stoke his ego, even if it does put others at risk of infection. One lap and back into hospital, job done. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Never give up the chance to stoke his ego, even if it does put others at risk of infection. One lap and back into hospital, job done. And now everyone who rode in the car with him will have to go into a 14-day quarantine. They may get sick. They may die. All for political theater. 45 Commanded them to risk their lives for an ego-stroking drive by. Very difficult to muster up sympathy for someone who has such blatant disregard for those in his service. Just more suckers and losers I guess. 12 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Opl Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Barr self-quarantine https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/04/politics/william-barr-quarantine-coronavirus/index.html Edited October 5, 2020 by Opl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 Trump rolls up his sleeves and goes back to his job: ignoring medical advice and goes on tour just long enough to put more peoples lives in danger. His pathetic need for attention is worse than crack head needing some rock. The psychopath aspect of him does not consider possible harm it may cause others, such as secret service agents, and regular cops on his "look at me!" joyride. Are we to believe doctors? "I didn't tell all the truth yesterday... but today you gotta believe me..." Lies by omission at very least. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Opl said: Barr self-quarantine Yet Pence, who was also in attendance at that super-spreader, is continuing to campaign, possibly spreading the virus to innumerable people. As I recall, HE was in charge of the task force responsible for setting the protocols. Just more "do as I say, not as I do." SMH 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Looking good for Trump recovering. I guess those that wished him to die of it will be disappointed. NB I'm not referencing any poster on TVF, but plenty on "social media", from what they are saying on talkback radio here, that do wish him dead. In the absence of anyone on TVF to point a finger at you search ‘social media’. I and a number of other’s here’s on TVF have clearly expressed the hope that Trump will make a full enough recovery to witness being humiliated in the election and then be imprisoned for his crimes. I am though a little concerned that the reports of his recovery cannot be trusted and in that sense concerned for his health. I absolutely do not want to see him dodge being held accountable for his crimes. 7 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: In the absence of anyone on TVF to point a finger at you search ‘social media’. I and a number of other’s here’s on TVF have clearly expressed the hope that Trump will make a full enough recovery to witness being humiliated in the election and then be imprisoned for his crimes. I am though a little concerned that the reports of his recovery cannot be trusted and in that sense concerned for his health. I absolutely do not want to see him dodge being held accountable for his crimes. Statistically he has a great chance if surviving the initial infection. However as information comes out about the severity of his case, it's obvious by now that the chances that he will be permanently damaged in his vital organs including his brain are quite significant. As he already has the toxic narcissistic personality of not knowing when it's time to quit or temporarily transfer power to Pence, this harsh reality is now both an election and national security issue. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animalmagic Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: Typical Trump. Just rolls his sleeves up and get's the job done with the minimum of fuss. Impressive and inspirational in equal measures. His strength hasn't gone un-noticed, and his resilience makes the fear mongers look rather silly IMO. and this ought to cheer him up.. US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid – EXCLUSIVE https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1343305/US-election-poll-donald-trump-coronavirus-covid-joe-biden-exclusive-polling A pity he didn't roll up his sleeves and get on with the job 9 months earlier! https://thebulwark.com/warnings-ignored-a-timeline-of-trumps-covid-19-response/ He's actually doing a job that he doesn't need to do. Every effective Government and military formation has a command system set up in such a way that the absence of a figurehead does not disrupt the normal order of business and there are protocols in place where the next person, who has hopefully been chosen for their ability and experience, takes over temporarily or permanently. All he has done is break quarantine rules and put others at unnecessary risk of infection. He is neither impressive nor inspirational. 8 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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