Trump to resume campaign as new polls show Biden lead growing in key states

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1 hour ago, Sujo said:

They were paid. 

Evidenc? I haven't found anything to support that. And it seems very unlikely given how the Trump campaign squandered its cash and is now trailing the Biden campaign in available funds.

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3 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Trump supporters do not need to be "invited'' to show their support, they just get out and do it.

 

Thousands of Cubans, Venezuelans and other conservative Latinos convened in Miami to attend an 'Anti-Communist' caravan, flying flags of support for President Donald Trump. 

 

The parade, called the 'Anti-Communist Caravan for Freedom and Democracy', convened at the Magic City Casino on Saturday morning. 

 

Various reports estimate somewhere between 20,000 to 30,000 cars in attendance for the caravan. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/latinos-for-trump-hold-a-massive-anti-communist-caravan-in-miami/ar-BB19Ubq1

 

Are you familiar with the saying "Put your money where your mouth is"? Biden is vastly outraising Trump in cash from small contributors.

[J Town]

29 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Evidenc? I haven't found anything to support that. And it seems very unlikely given how the Trump campaign squandered its cash and is now trailing the Biden campaign in available funds.

You're like my kids who say they can't find anything in their bedroom when it's right under their nose:

 

https://www.blackenterprise.com/candace-owens-blexit-group-paid-black-people-to-attend-trumps-rally-at-the-white-house/

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/candace-owens-blexit-group-pays-attendees-travel-trumps/story?id=73531036

 

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/10/10/candace-owens-blexit-black-people-trump-event.html

[bluehippie]

11 minutes ago, J Town said:

I really have no interest in what Joe did years ago, I'm looking at what 45 is doing right now!

Now you're talking! You best care as Joe could be at the helm in 3 weeks!

Don't forget though what a liar Biden has been for so many years. He's no better than Trump but has half a mind right now and that's TODAY. Lord knows what he's capable of now in his vegetative state or whatever is ailing his brain.

Edited October 14, 2020 by bluehippie

[PattayaJames]

11 minutes ago, J Town said:

You're like my kids who say they can't find anything in their bedroom when it's right under their nose:

 

https://www.blackenterprise.com/candace-owens-blexit-group-paid-black-people-to-attend-trumps-rally-at-the-white-house/

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/candace-owens-blexit-group-pays-attendees-travel-trumps/story?id=73531036

 

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/10/10/candace-owens-blexit-black-people-trump-event.html

Try again we are not talking about BLEXIT

We are talking about Anti-Communist Caravan for Freedom and Democracy',

Good luck!

 

 

 

 

 

[RocketDog]

5 hours ago, polpott said:

Like building that wall and getting the Mexicans to pay for it? Like repealing and replacing Obamacare? He got nothing done.

 

I notice "building the wall" is conspicuously absent from this campaign.

Excuse me, but you are in fact quoting TopDeadSenter who I was quoting in my reply #202. 

 

I'll overlook it this time but please never mistake me for a Trump supporter. Them's fightin' words my friend. I wouldn't walk across the street to p*ss on the vacuous baรโard if he were on fire. 

 

All he's accomplished so far is defilement, destruction, and division. I'm spending close to $100 to receive my ballot and return it to the USA express. It's worth twice that much to me to see the clown go down. 

[polpott]

47 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

Excuse me, but you are in fact quoting TopDeadSenter who I was quoting in my reply #202. 

 

I'll overlook it this time but please never mistake me for a Trump supporter. Them's fightin' words my friend. I wouldn't walk across the street to p*ss on the vacuous baรโard if he were on fire. 

 

All he's accomplished so far is defilement, destruction, and division. I'm spending close to $100 to receive my ballot and return it to the USA express. It's worth twice that much to me to see the clown go down. 

Sorry. Happens all the time. You try to quote one person's quote and the person they were replying to gets named. i'll double check next time.

[nausea]

We'll see Nov 3. The only thing I can say, if you can't beat the incumbent with the whole weight of the mostly liberal media behind you, I'd change my strategy. As for the polls, well I wouldn't bet my life on it. 

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2 hours ago, J Town said:

You're like my kids who say they can't find anything in their bedroom when it's right under their nose:

 

https://www.blackenterprise.com/candace-owens-blexit-group-paid-black-people-to-attend-trumps-rally-at-the-white-house/

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/candace-owens-blexit-group-pays-attendees-travel-trumps/story?id=73531036

 

https://www.bet.com/news/national/2020/10/10/candace-owens-blexit-black-people-trump-event.html

Different event with a lot smaller numbers.

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[Sujo]

2 hours ago, bluehippie said:

Now you're talking! You best care as Joe could be at the helm in 3 weeks!

Don't forget though what a liar Biden has been for so many years. He's no better than Trump but has half a mind right now and that's TODAY. Lord knows what he's capable of now in his vegetative state or whatever is ailing his brain.

So lets compare lies. Joe from 40 years and trump from 4 years

[Morch]

7 hours ago, PattayaJames said:

Your answer is just a collection of words with no meaning.

Deflection? where is the deflection?

Cherry-picking, what did I cherry pick?

Nonsense, seems to apply to your own post.

 

 

[dundas]

When all this is over and the dust settles, I'd like to see something done about Rupert Murdoch, who seems intent on creating right wing governments in the US, UK and Australia (US - Fox News, NY Post; UK - The Sun, The Times; Australia - 70% of newspapers, and Sky News). Murdoch is into denying climate change  (he sits on the board of an gas and oil exploration company) and routinely supports political parties who offer corporate welfare at the expense of the population. He regularly uses his power to blackmail governments -- for instance, he is he lucky recipient of government grants of many millions of dollars in Australia, and he's also pressured the Australian government in the slow destruction of publicly owned media (which in terms of its charter has to be impartial). 

 

If you look at the state of politics in these three countries (ie, weakening of the institutions needed for government to work without corruption plus increasing division plus  a lurch to the right), Murdoch is the common thread. 

 

And he's totally unelected. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, transam said:

Post them here then....

Maddow did reveal some tax returns from 2005. Not exactly the smoking gun hoped for.

 

 

https://observer.com/2017/03/rachel-maddow-blames-viewers-for-trump-2005-tax-return-flop/

Rachel Maddow embarrassed herself and MSNBC Tuesday night when she hyped the fact that she “got Trump tax returns,” only to reveal two pages from the president’s 2005 1040 form. Those two pages revealed President Donald Trump had made $150 million in 2005, deducted $100 million in losses, and paid $38 million in taxes.

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Maddow revealed that Trump had paid taxes—and at a larger share of his income than President Barack Obama or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Edited October 15, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[polpott]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Maddow did reveal some tax returns from 2005. Not exactly the smoking gun hoped for.

 

 

https://observer.com/2017/03/rachel-maddow-blames-viewers-for-trump-2005-tax-return-flop/

Rachel Maddow embarrassed herself and MSNBC Tuesday night when she hyped the fact that she “got Trump tax returns,” only to reveal two pages from the president’s 2005 1040 form. Those two pages revealed President Donald Trump had made $150 million in 2005, deducted $100 million in losses, and paid $38 million in taxes.

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Maddow revealed that Trump had paid taxes—and at a larger share of his income than President Barack Obama or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

The link is from the New York Observer. Part owned by............Jared Kushner. Quelle surprise!

[Credo]

57 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Maddow did reveal some tax returns from 2005. Not exactly the smoking gun hoped for.

 

 

https://observer.com/2017/03/rachel-maddow-blames-viewers-for-trump-2005-tax-return-flop/

Rachel Maddow embarrassed herself and MSNBC Tuesday night when she hyped the fact that she “got Trump tax returns,” only to reveal two pages from the president’s 2005 1040 form. Those two pages revealed President Donald Trump had made $150 million in 2005, deducted $100 million in losses, and paid $38 million in taxes.

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Maddow revealed that Trump had paid taxes—and at a larger share of his income than President Barack Obama or Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

The best you can do is link to a 2017 article about his 2005 taxes?

 

[TopDeadSenter]

Well breaking news is deeply concerning, and might well make the polling news irrelevant. It appears to prove Biden was lying about his having no involvement in his sons dubious business out in the Ukraine. Corruption exposed at this level and with this timing is a major issue. This is as disastrous for the democrats as it was when Comey investigated Clinton just before the 2016 election. Why oh why can't they pick a clean decent candidate?

 

"Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

 

This is no1 trending news in the world now. Made 100 worse by Twitter and Facebook trying desperately to ban the story, and Trump weighed in, and now Jack Dorsey is frantically backpedalling and apologizing for his trying to ban the true story. Oh dear, what a mess.

 

 

[Eric Loh]

10 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well breaking news is deeply concerning, and might well make the polling news irrelevant. It appears to prove Biden was lying about his having no involvement in his sons dubious business out in the Ukraine. Corruption exposed at this level and with this timing is a major issue. This is as disastrous for the democrats as it was when Comey investigated Clinton just before the 2016 election. Why oh why can't they pick a clean decent candidate?

 

"Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

 

This is no1 trending news in the world now. Made 100 worse by Twitter and Facebook trying desperately to ban the story, and Trump weighed in, and now Jack Dorsey is frantically backpedalling and apologizing for his trying to ban the true story. Oh dear, what a mess.

 

 

The "Streisand effect" whereby censoring a piece of information lends it far more prominence than it otherwise would have received. 

[Berkshire]

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well breaking news is deeply concerning, and might well make the polling news irrelevant. It appears to prove Biden was lying about his having no involvement in his sons dubious business out in the Ukraine. Corruption exposed at this level and with this timing is a major issue. This is as disastrous for the democrats as it was when Comey investigated Clinton just before the 2016 election. Why oh why can't they pick a clean decent candidate?

 

"Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

 

This is no1 trending news in the world now. Made 100 worse by Twitter and Facebook trying desperately to ban the story, and Trump weighed in, and now Jack Dorsey is frantically backpedalling and apologizing for his trying to ban the true story. Oh dear, what a mess.

 

 

That NY Post article is already being shredded as made-up nonsense.  It's Russian propaganda.  But Trump supporters will believe whatever they want to believe.

 

[The Post's story had several red flags that raised doubts about its authenticity. The most glaring questions center around whether the emails described in the story are legitimate, how they were uncovered, and how the Post obtained them.]

[Business Insider identified the repair shop owner as John Paul Mac Isaac, an avid Trump supporter who couldn't get his facts straight when reporters later questioned him about the timeline of events laid out in the Post's story.]

[The emails laid out in the Post's story also weren't included in a controversial report released last month by two Republican Senate chairmen about the details of Hunter Biden's work in Ukraine.]

[The story gained little traction among more reputable sources, and Facebook said shortly after the article was published that it would slow its spread on the platform until third-party fact-checkers could verify its authenticity.]

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-hunter-joe-biden-giuliani-red-flags-disinformation-2020-10

 

[polpott]

25 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well breaking news is deeply concerning, and might well make the polling news irrelevant. It appears to prove Biden was lying about his having no involvement in his sons dubious business out in the Ukraine. Corruption exposed at this level and with this timing is a major issue. This is as disastrous for the democrats as it was when Comey investigated Clinton just before the 2016 election. Why oh why can't they pick a clean decent candidate?

 

"Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

 

This is no1 trending news in the world now. Made 100 worse by Twitter and Facebook trying desperately to ban the story, and Trump weighed in, and now Jack Dorsey is frantically backpedalling and apologizing for his trying to ban the true story. Oh dear, what a mess.

 

 

From New York Post. owned by Murdoch, same as Fox News. Try quoting a credible source.

[Sujo]

56 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Well breaking news is deeply concerning, and might well make the polling news irrelevant. It appears to prove Biden was lying about his having no involvement in his sons dubious business out in the Ukraine. Corruption exposed at this level and with this timing is a major issue. This is as disastrous for the democrats as it was when Comey investigated Clinton just before the 2016 election. Why oh why can't they pick a clean decent candidate?

 

"Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/notice-biden-campaign-not-denying-posts-scoop-facts-on-hunter-bidens-sleaze/

 

This is no1 trending news in the world now. Made 100 worse by Twitter and Facebook trying desperately to ban the story, and Trump weighed in, and now Jack Dorsey is frantically backpedalling and apologizing for his trying to ban the true story. Oh dear, what a mess.

 

 

Fake news. Republican committee already investigated and found nothing.

[Opl]

Today the tie, and tomorrow? 

" Trump himself seems to recognize that he has nothing of substance to say to his own supporters, so he relies on cheap theatrics to get big applause" 

"Should I take off the tie, or no?" video, link below, 

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/14/trump-looks-like-a-washed-up-musician-on-a-farewell-tour-at-iowa-superspreader-rally.html

Edited October 15, 2020 by Opl

[Morch]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

From New York Post. owned by Murdoch, same as Fox News. Try quoting a credible source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/

[klikster]

On 10/13/2020 at 1:11 PM, newnative said:

She did win--by nearly 3 million votes.  Trump was saved by the archaic Electoral College.  

And the election was possibly influenced by a report (against policy) regarding Hillary's emails Comey made just days before the election .

[Nigel Garvie]

12 hours ago, dundas said:

When all this is over and the dust settles, I'd like to see something done about Rupert Murdoch, who seems intent on creating right wing governments in the US, UK and Australia (US - Fox News, NY Post; UK - The Sun, The Times; Australia - 70% of newspapers, and Sky News). Murdoch is into denying climate change  (he sits on the board of an gas and oil exploration company) and routinely supports political parties who offer corporate welfare at the expense of the population. He regularly uses his power to blackmail governments -- for instance, he is he lucky recipient of government grants of many millions of dollars in Australia, and he's also pressured the Australian government in the slow destruction of publicly owned media (which in terms of its charter has to be impartial). 

 

If you look at the state of politics in these three countries (ie, weakening of the institutions needed for government to work without corruption plus increasing division plus  a lurch to the right), Murdoch is the common thread. 

 

And he's totally unelected. 

 

One of the best posts that I have read on TV for a long time. Murdoch is indeed the antichrist (And that's coming from an Atheist!!). Why is it that the disadvantaged, exploited, undereducated working masses, of so many countries, vote again and again for parties who are going to take them to the cleaners. Murdoch taught them to despise others who were less well off than they were. A diet of this with greed, envy, sex and scandal, sport, and worship of the rich, fried their brains. 

 

Well it looks like the worm has turned in the US, and decent people are coming out to vote in their masses, despite the best efforts at voter suppression that the GOP can muster. Not even the FOX "Reporters" look like they actually believe the endless bs that they are forced to say, any longer. 

 

Nothing less that total humiliation, for the man who happily represents everything that is shallow and unpleasant about the US, will suffice.

[onthedarkside]

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On 10/13/2020 at 9:40 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Allow me to explain why he is doing the rallies. Trump is a symbol of positivity, in fact he is the essence of positivity. His whole 1st term was about getting stuff done, getting the minorities back into work(without a magic wand), renegotiating or cancelling dubious foreign treaties to make life better for Americans. It is all positive. Conversely, the democrats are the symbol of negativity. Overbearing negativity, moaning and carping about anything and everything for the last 4 years, and the only message they have going in to the election is that Biden is not Trump, yet another negative.

 The rally is an overt symbol. It's OK guys, come out from hiding. Look at how strong President Trump is, look how he shook off the virus that wrecked the world economy, hopes and dreams of so many. Let's get back to work, let's start living life again. This is America, we will prevail. A message that resonates with many I'm sure. The contrast between Trump's message of hope, and the democrats message and actions since the 2016 election is night and day.

 

Yes, he's doing this just to spread good cheer.

 

Trump fights in states his campaign once insisted were a lock

He pitched rural voters in Iowa on Wednesday, visited North Carolina and Florida on Thursday — states his campaign once insisted were a lock — and is spending Friday evening here in Georgia, which Democrats last carried in 1992.

In the final 18 days before voters decide whether to keep President Donald Trump in the White House, the incumbent Republican is spending precious time in states that were never supposed to be this close but now threaten to upend his reelection campaign.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/16/trump-campaign-red-states-429974

[Dumbastheycome]

On 10/14/2020 at 1:51 PM, polpott said:

Like building that wall and getting the Mexicans to pay for it? Like repealing and replacing Obamacare? He got nothing done.

 

I notice "building the wall" is conspicuously absent from this campaign.

Not much evidence of a great new wall either !

[Dumbastheycome]

While those who fervently express support  for Trump and  attempt to make comparisons of the number  of attendees at campaign events despite the fact Biden quite deliberately minimizes mass gatherings as policy I find it strange that as far as what can be viewed  via media is that more often than not more people are packed like a rafter of turkeys behind him dutifully gobbling on cue to prompts. Where are the crowds Trump is presumably  facing ?

[onthedarkside]

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