Brexit brinkmanship: Johnson says prepare for no-deal, cancels trade talks

[hotandsticky]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I am not apologising. I know Brexit is stupidity on stilts and was only brought about by feeding the gullible meaningless slogans and buzzwords which anyone with half a brain could see through. And of course there was always the unspoken but inferred aspect of immigration. 

Now you tell me what kind of person would be susceptible to the above.    

 

 

Such little bait, but you could not resist a nibble.

 

 

Remaining predictable.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Such little bait, but you could not resist a nibble.

 

 

Remaining predictable.

And backed by evidence.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-education-higher-university-study-university-leave-eu-remain-voters-educated-a7881441.html

[RayC]

17 minutes ago, vogie said:

Remainers didn't vote for anything apart for 'meaningful votes' which turned out to be meaningless, and now they complain that they are being hard done by.????????????

I'm pretty certain that you will find that Remainers put a 'x' in the box marked 'Remain in the European Union' back in 2016.

 

 Still not taking any responsibility or accountability for the situation that you have put us in, I see. Always the other side's fault when things go wrong, be it 'Remainers' or the EU.

[3NUMBAS]

the tunnel will still be running containers of freight come january ,its all very seamless nowadays

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

I'm pretty certain that you will find that Remainers put a 'x' in the box marked 'Remain in the European Union' back in 2016.

 

 Still not taking any responsibility or accountability for the situation that you have put us in, I see. Always the other side's fault when things go wrong, be it 'Remainers' or the EU.

I immediately see a flaw in your argument, there were more voters that placed a cross in the leave option.

Where we are today is solely down to the remainers, credit where credits due.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the tunnel will still be running containers of freight come january ,its all very seamless nowadays

 

Until the first of January it will be.

[7by7]

12 minutes ago, vogie said:

I immediately see a flaw in your argument, there were more voters that placed a cross in the leave option.

Where we are today is solely down to the remainers, credit where credits due.

 Yes, more people voted 'Leave' than Remain,' just. Although to that bastion of democracy, Nigel Farage, a 52/48 victory for Remain would be 'unfinished business,' whilst the 52/48 victory for Leave was ' a magnificent victory!'

 

That we are where we are today is down to the political ambitions of Boris Johnson and his backers. We could have left the EU on 29th March 2019 had Johnson and his backers not blocked May's WA.

 

Having gained power, he then submits a modified WA which is virtually identical in every way to May's apart from his Irish Sea border. Though he has since reneged on his agreement.

 

It's not May, it's not Parliament, it's not Remainers who are to blame for the mess we're in now; it's Johnson and Cummings!

 

Although Cummings days may be numbered as the high ups in the party are tiring of him and his subordinates. Cain has gone, how long before Cummings follows?

[david555]

39 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the tunnel will still be running containers of freight come january ,its all very seamless nowadays

On condition that there is not one ( or more) truckload driver forgot their passport or that it has not  enough month's valid still on it .....by preference on the control entry .....blocking the 300 behind ....( can be happening for both U.K. or E.U. drivers ...)????????????????

[RayC]

4 hours ago, vogie said:

I immediately see a flaw in your argument,

No flaw in my argument. You appear to have forgotten what you posted: "Remainers didn't vote for anything apart for 'meaningful votes' which turned out to be meaningless, 

I was simply correcting this incorrect statement by stating the truism that Remainers voted Remain in 2016. (I'll accept that I'm being pedantic if you want to accuse me of something).

 

4 hours ago, vogie said:

there were more voters that placed a cross in the leave option.

Another truism which I have never denied.

4 hours ago, vogie said:

Where we are today is solely down to the remainers, credit where credits due.

You still don't seem to have grasped the concept that governing entails responsibility and accountability.

[transam]

13 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Question is are you going to be rushing back to the UK to help do all this rebuilding of the economy caused by Brexit?

After all. Its your patriotic duty to help get all that fruit and veg picked now your dream of preventing immigrants from doing it has been fulfilled.

Or will you just be staying in your armchair? 

Yet another stupid post from the ant-Brit....????

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Yet another stupid post from the ant-Brit....????

Yet another asinine post by the plastic patriot.

[transam]

12 hours ago, david555 said:

On condition that there is not one ( or more) truckload driver forgot their passport or that it has not  enough month's valid still on it .....by preference on the control entry .....blocking the 300 behind ....( can be happening for both U.K. or E.U. drivers ...)????????????????

Gawd 'elp us, what next with your daft scenarios....????

[transam]

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yet another asinine post by the plastic patriot.

I would rather be your plastic patriot than an anti-Brit Brit squaddy......How distasteful and worrying....????

[Rookiescot]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

I would rather be your plastic patriot than an anti-Brit Brit squaddy......How distasteful and worrying....????

 

I would rather be distasteful and worrying than be a Brexiteer.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

I would rather be distasteful and worrying than be a Brexiteer.

We know, but it is daily entertainment here......????

[luckyluke]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I would rather be your plastic patriot than an anti-Brit Brit squaddy......How distasteful and worrying....????

Wonder how many, voting Remain, can be labelled as anti-Brit ?

After all they are convinced that, as true patriot caring about their country, the best thing for the U.K. was to remain in the E.U..

Now it will take a long time, maybe years, in my opinion, before Brexit will show concrete, visible results.

If positive Remain voters will have to admit that their opinion was false.

If negative sure some will insult the Leave voters for anti- Brit, as by their vote they put the U.K. in a worse situation it was before.

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Wonder how many, voting Remain, can be labelled as anti-Brit ?

After all they are convinced that, as true patriot caring about their country, the best thing for the U.K. was to remain in the E.U..

Now it will take a long time, maybe years, in my opinion, before Brexit will show concrete, visible results.

If positive Remain voters will have to admit that their opinion was false.

If negative sure some will insult the Leave voters for anti- Brit, as by their vote they put the U.K. in a worse situation it was before.

 

My ant-Brit thing is regarding posters here that over the years have shown themselves to be that, not remainers in general.

Brexit is done, the UK moves on to its future, but some Brit folk here slag off the UK at every opportunity instead of understanding that fact. These people show their real colours.

 

I have no problem with remainers here that do not resort to slagging off THEIR country because Brexit didn't go their way. Those from across the channel that slag off the UK at every opportunity are frowned upon by me, but I suppose if that's their daily "fun", so be it, but to me look rather foolish...  

 

[Surelynot]

Mr Peston claimed both the Prime Minister and Chancellor Rishi Sunak have abandoned a financial services deal with the EU.

 

 

“Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson have capitulated and seemingly abandoned hope of a financial services deal with EU, and have announced the City will be simple rule take from Brussels.”

 

Johnson caving in left, right and centre as the whole debacle of failed Brexit promises come home to roost.

[luckyluke]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

but some Brit folk here slag off the UK

 

10 minutes ago, transam said:

hose from across the channel that slag off the UK

Criticizing, expressing one's opinion,  is a concrete something.

Labelling it as a "slagging off', is a personal perception.

[transam]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

 

Criticizing, expressing one's opinion,  is a concrete something.

Labelling it as a "slagging off', is a personal perception.

Depends on  the context it is used. I am sure you have read many posts from a few  euros that are just baiting, with no substance posts, done just for a reaction...Of course that is forum stuff, but slagging off my country is a no-no for me and is not needed...

[luckyluke]

1 minute ago, transam said:

I am sure you have read many posts from a few  euros that are just baiting, with no substance posts, done just for a reaction.

Yes, as I have read the same from some Britons.

Both aren't necessary, but this is a forum, and thus to expect.

We all have our personal opinion of what should be tolerable and what not.

However there are moderators here who decide what can and can't.

8 minutes ago, transam said:

but slagging off my country is a no-no for me and is not needed...

If you consider it as a slagging off, your reaction is understandable.

 

However it remains a personal perception, not necessarily shared by everyone. 

[Rookiescot]

45 minutes ago, transam said:

My ant-Brit thing is regarding posters here that over the years have shown themselves to be that, not remainers in general.

Brexit is done, the UK moves on to its future, but some Brit folk here slag off the UK at every opportunity instead of understanding that fact. These people show their real colours.

 

I have no problem with remainers here that do not resort to slagging off THEIR country because Brexit didn't go their way. Those from across the channel that slag off the UK at every opportunity are frowned upon by me, but I suppose if that's their daily "fun", so be it, but to me look rather foolish...  

 

 

No your problem is every time you lose an argument you resort to insults and asinine posts. Your latest one being to label anyone who does not agree with your view as being anti Brit. They are not. They are anti Brexit. 

Voting to leave the EU is not patriotic. It never was and never will be. In what way does voting to damage your country demonstrate patriotism? 

You believe you are a patriot when in fact your insults to fellow Brits because of their political views demonstrates you are not. 

 

[Surelynot]

Serious concerns now being expressed, in government circles, that supply of the covid vaccine will be disrupted by Brexit chaos at the ferry terminals.

 

The gift that just keeps giving.

[evadgib]

More 'getting on with it' from HMG

 

Foreign Secretary's call with Arancha González-Laya, 12 November 2020

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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab spoke to the Spanish Foreign Minister today to discuss the UK and Gibraltar’s future relationship with the European Union.

 

Foreign Secretary's call with Luigi Di Maio, 12 November 2020

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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab spoke to Italian Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio today to discuss the UK and Italy’s partnerships in 2021.

 

[Surelynot]

Just now, evadgib said:

More 'getting on with it' from HMG

 

Foreign Secretary's call with Arancha González-Laya, 12 November 2020

 

Foreign Secretary's call with Luigi Di Maio, 12 November 2020

 

Wow...how is this not headlining in all the media outlets?

[luckyluke]

5 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Wow...how is this not headlining in all the media outlets?

Maybe because not that relevant/fascinating to report every time the daily work of a foreign secretary.

[transam]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

 

No your problem is every time you lose an argument you resort to insults and asinine posts. Your latest one being to label anyone who does not agree with your view as being anti Brit. They are not. They are anti Brexit. 

Voting to leave the EU is not patriotic. It never was and never will be. In what way does voting to damage your country demonstrate patriotism? 

You believe you are a patriot when in fact your insults to fellow Brits because of their political views demonstrates you are not. 

 

No, my problem is, folk like you siding with non-Brits instead of backing your own people now Brexit is fact....????

[Rookiescot]

19 minutes ago, transam said:

No, my problem is, folk like you siding with non-Brits instead of backing your own people now Brexit is fact....????

So opinions on Brexit should be limited to Brits?

Careful, your xenophobia is starting to show.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

So opinions on Brexit should be limited to Brits?

Careful, your xenophobia is starting to show.

Try reading my post a bit slower....????

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

 

No your problem is every time you lose an argument you resort to insults and asinine posts. Your latest one being to label anyone who does not agree with your view as being anti Brit. They are not. They are anti Brexit. 

Voting to leave the EU is not patriotic. It never was and never will be. In what way does voting to damage your country demonstrate patriotism? 

You believe you are a patriot when in fact your insults to fellow Brits because of their political views demonstrates you are not. 

 

 

"every time you lose an argument" sounds  a bit too familiar??? Dual identity or just parroting?