6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Sure you did. And I alway believe the claims of an anonymous poster on the internet. 

Especially when he contradicts the experts:

The Pauses and Phrasing Technique

This one relies on the same principle as the reduced rate technique: buying your brain more time to speak more fluently.

To do it, add more pauses into your speech in reasonable, natural places than normal.

It’ll take some of the mental workload off your brain, freeing it up for more fluent speech.

https://slpstephen.com/blogs/news/the-complete-list-of-stuttering-treatment-techniques#:~:text=The Pauses and Phrasing Technique,reasonable%2C natural places than normal.

Nor this one:

https://www.stutteringhelp.org/sites/default/files/Migrate/book0012_11th_ed.pdf

Don't care what you believe, I was sharing that's all.

 

joe is old and slow which is why he has that glazed, where am I, please help me look on his face. He has no business running for president.

19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I had a ginormous stuttering problem when younger, so no it's not typical. If it is then you have to know your limitations, like maybe I shouldn't be president if I can't convey my thoughts. 

I beg to differ I think joe articulated quite well truthfully factually  with for thought and planning trump on the other hand lied deflected no plan nada and more attempted attacks on the Biden’s imo joe won it is what it is

Quote of the day from Biden referring to Trump whining on about Obama, Clinton and others:

 

”He’s a very confused guy. He thinks he’s running against somebody else. He’s running against Joe Biden”

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Like listening to fingernails scratching a blackboard.  Amazing he can tell so many lies and keep a straight face.  If this is what tonight may look like, I'll pass.

 

 

 

To quote George Costanza - "It's not a lie...if you believe it."

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't care what you believe, I was sharing that's all.

 

joe is old and slow which is why he has that glazed, where am I, please help me look on his face. He has no business running for president.

And yet he will win comfortably.

So what does that say about his opponent ?

11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't care what you believe, I was sharing that's all.

 

joe is old and slow which is why he has that glazed, where am I, please help me look on his face. He has no business running for president.

Joe Biden is an American, he has every business running for President.

 

Away with you and your habitual agism. 

3 hours ago, englishoak said:

Still two weeks to go, Can Biden survive his sons vices ? can Trump survive the media ? ... can they both survive covid ? stay tuned .....

 

This calls for a  Celebrity Deathmatch special.

12 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't care what you believe, I was sharing that's all.

 

joe is old and slow which is why he has that glazed, where am I, please help me look on his face. He has no business running for president.

Agreed.  But neither does Trump.  He's already proven he's not fit for the job. 

 

Loved Joe's comment:

 

He should have been, instead of in a sand trap at his golf course, he should have been negotiating with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and Republicans about what to do about the acts they were passing for billions to make sure people have the capacity.

14 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't care what you believe, I was sharing that's all.

 

joe is old and slow which is why he has that glazed, where am I, please help me look on his face. He has no business running for president.

The question is, was what you were sharing fact or fiction? No way to actually ascertain that, is there? Whereas I cited evidence that is indendently confirmable.

And once again you're playacting at being a gerontologist. Good luck with that.

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

To quote George Costanza - "It's not a lie...if you believe it."

Or, tell a lie often enough and others will start to believe it.  That's what the conservative media does.  And sadly, some fall for this.  They seem to have to fact check! LOL

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Agreed.  But neither does Trump.  He's already proven he's not fit for the job. 

 

Loved Joe's comment:

 

He should have been, instead of in a sand trap at his golf course, he should have been negotiating with Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrats and Republicans about what to do about the acts they were passing for billions to make sure people have the capacity.

Agreed, neither should be there. 

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Agreed, neither should be there. 

We await your detailed criticism of Trump with interest.

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Or, tell a lie often enough and others will start to believe it.  That's what the conservative media does.  And sadly, some fall for this.  They seem to have to fact check! LOL

Just a quick recap. 

 

1)The conservative media said Trump could win the nomination. MSM said it was a joke and impossible. And the winner? Conservative media.

2)The conservative media said Trump would win against Hillary. The MSM as we remember, said it is a joke and impossible. Winner? Conservative media

3)repeat the above with Russia,Russia,Russia, Ukraine gate, impeachment fiasco, Steve Scully, Kavanaugh gang rapist hoax, riots in democrat states, Jussie Smollett, Jeff Toobin's "accident" and on and on and on and on

4)in the litmus test case which is the Biden scandal one side is a conspiracy theory and one side will be proven correct. Seeing as the state security agencies have already said the Russia claims are wrong I know which side I suspect(yet again) to be vindicated and which side will be proven fake news and run along to the next hoax.

 

Conservative media proven correct. Legacy media proven wrong at every turn. 

 

At what point do people say hang on a minute, I have been wrong about literally everything since 2016, is it time to quit watching CNN and MSNBC?

 

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

Old news, move on. As said by others lights on, nobody home sounds like ole joe.

 

Indeed. Trump's presidency is about having a new scandal with every weekly news cycle. Sometimes even more. By that count, anything beyond 72 hours is 'old news'. Or at least, that's what Trump fans would like everyone to believe.

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Agreed, neither should be there. 

Yes. Had the Dems put up a decent candidate at the primaries, the polls would be showing a double digit lead for the Dem candidate, instead of something within the margin of error.

53 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I don't have a problem with ole joe much, it's the influence the far, far left will have on him and his decision making.

It seems it takes joe longer than it should to hear the question and come up with a response.

 

You've been banging on with the same bogus argument on several topics now. Not a single time did you manage to actually support this notion with anything halfway credible.

1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Just a quick recap. 

 

1)The conservative media said Trump could win the nomination. MSM said it was a joke and impossible. And the winner? Conservative media.

2)The conservative media said Trump would win against Hillary. The MSM as we remember, said it is a joke and impossible. Winner? Conservative media

3)repeat the above with Russia,Russia,Russia, Ukraine gate, impeachment fiasco, Steve Scully, Kavanaugh gang rapist hoax, riots in democrat states, Jussie Smollett, Jeff Toobin's "accident" and on and on and on and on

4)in the litmus test case which is the Biden scandal one side is a conspiracy theory and one side will be proven correct. Seeing as the state security agencies have already said the Russia claims are wrong I know which side I suspect(yet again) to be vindicated and which side will be proven fake news and run along to the next hoax.

 

Conservative media proven correct. Legacy media proven wrong at every turn. 

 

At what point do people say hang on a minute, I have been wrong about literally everything since 2016, is it time to quit watching CNN and MSNBC?

 

Let’s come back to this when Trump no longer has control of the DoJ.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

We await your detailed criticism of Trump with interest.

But, that's what we're offered and should we be left with joe, wait and see how his policies will change to placate the very far left. It will be interesting to hear how joe might spin his policy changes.

1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

At what point do people say hang on a minute, I have been wrong about literally everything since 2016, is it time to quit watching CNN and MSNBC?

During these troubled times I quite like to watch CNN before breakfast. Every day should start with a good laugh.

1 hour ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

Joe Biden's long career and eight years in office without achieving these things

 

Senator is a cushy job and not really conducive to getting things done.  As Stacey Abrams put it, she wants to be in an administrative position because she wants to do things, whereas as a member of  legislature, well, look at what a pig's breakfast US Congress has been these past years.

Vice-President is somewhat of a joke.  I learned in grade school the veep is there for only two things: to replace the president if need be, and to break a deadlock in Congress.  That's it.  They might do things like goodwill trips around or out of the country, or have a pet project or 2: e.g. VP Gore pushed through a telecommunications act to develop internet infrastructure.  Biden and Obama seemed somewhat close, which is not the norm.  There have been some infamous animosities. Kennedy and Johnson were barely on speaking terms, or so it was said, and when LBJ inherited the Vietnam War he had absolutely no idea what sort of play JFK was pursuing. 

 

Oh yeah, the joke:

Q; What does the vice-president do?

A: nothing

So when asking Biden what he accomplished as vp, the answer is nothing, because that's his job.  In fact, Obama's guys would occasionally tell Uncle Joe to be less visible because they didn't want The Boss to be upstaged.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You've been banging on with the same bogus argument on several topics now. Not a single time did you manage to actually support this notion with anything halfway credible.

I'm terribly sorry if I upset you. 

It's fairly obvious from the debate Trump was in his customary attack and lying mode, which will work well with his supporters. Not so sure for any American with more than two brain cells.

OTOH, Biden was quite sharp, skewered Trump on tax returns, who he was running against, coronavirus etc. Not the responses of a guy who some posters would have us believe is doddering.

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

I'm terribly sorry if I upset you. 

You've reminded me of Flanders and Swann. " Always be sincere, whether you mean it or not".

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's fairly obvious from the debate Trump was in his customary attack and lying mode, which will work well with his supporters. Not so sure for any American with more than two braincells.

Are you implying he actually has another mode?  You're going to have to post some pretty convincing links to back up that one! 

 

 

From the various polling I saw, Biden either won or the debate was tied.

 

Here is one from CNN (yeah, I know, CNN, some of you will whine about it).

 

CNN Poll: Biden wins final presidential debate

 

Quote

Joe Biden did a better job in the final debate on Thursday according to a CNN Instant Poll of debate watchers. Overall, 53% of voters who watched the debate said that Biden won the matchup, while 39% said that President Donald Trump did.

Viewers once again said that Biden's criticisms of Trump were largely fair (73% said they were fair, 26% unfair), and they split over whether Trump's attacks on Biden were fair (50% said yes, 49% no).

 

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm terribly sorry if I upset you. 

 

Yeah, wasn't expecting anything meaningful out of you anyway. Thanks.

6 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

But, that's what we're offered and should we be left with joe, wait and see how his policies will change to placate the very far left. It will be interesting to hear how joe might spin his policy changes.

I love it when "the left" gets invoked by right-wing Americans as if it is some form of leprosy.

There are plenty of socialist governments in the world that function very well. New Zealand has one, and I'd say it's doing a much better job with COVID-19 than the US is. 25 dead as against 228,000. 66 active cases against 2.7 million. AFAIK, the NZ economy is doing just fine.

You've never tried it, so how can you know?

9 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Are you implying he actually has another mode?  You're going to have to post some pretty convincing links to back up that one! 

 

 

He plays a lot of golf, and cheats at it. Will that do?

24 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Just a quick recap. 

 

1)The conservative media said Trump could win the nomination. MSM said it was a joke and impossible. And the winner? Conservative media.

2)The conservative media said Trump would win against Hillary. The MSM as we remember, said it is a joke and impossible. Winner? Conservative media

3)repeat the above with Russia,Russia,Russia, Ukraine gate, impeachment fiasco, Steve Scully, Kavanaugh gang rapist hoax, riots in democrat states, Jussie Smollett, Jeff Toobin's "accident" and on and on and on and on

4)in the litmus test case which is the Biden scandal one side is a conspiracy theory and one side will be proven correct. Seeing as the state security agencies have already said the Russia claims are wrong I know which side I suspect(yet again) to be vindicated and which side will be proven fake news and run along to the next hoax.

 

Conservative media proven correct. Legacy media proven wrong at every turn. 

 

At what point do people say hang on a minute, I have been wrong about literally everything since 2016, is it time to quit watching CNN and MSNBC?

 

What?  All the dog whistles from the alt right crowd.  Sad.

 

You bring these up, but pass on the issues brought up against him.  Typical.  Not worth replying to you any more.

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I love it when "the left" gets invoked by right-wing Americans as if it is some form of leprosy.

There are plenty of socialist governments in the world that function very well. New Zealand has one, and I'd say it's doing a much better job with COVID-19 than the US is. 25 dead as against 228,000. 66 active cases against 2.7 million. AFAIK, the NZ economy is doing just fine.

You've never tried it, so how can you know?

Most from the alt right crowd don't really know what socialism really is.  It's just a dog whistle brought to the by Trump and his enablers.  Oh...and all the while they get social security checks, unemployment benefits, medicare, bailouts for farmers, etc, etc, etc.  Right....