Foreigner injured in clash with protester during pro-democracy rally at Jomtien Beach

[Andrew65]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Me too.  I remember 2010 well!  I always steer well clear of anything like that (I even stand up in the cinema when they play the Anthem) however I commend any foreigners who are prepared to join the "fight".

I also commend non-Thais for the same reasons. I think however it was made clear in 2010 that non Thais getting involved could face deportation. I remember the British/Irish guy who said he was gonna break into Central World, steal all the gold watches & sh*t on the carpets, not the brightest spark!????   ????

[khunpa]

2 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

 

How was he arguing? What did he say to them? Tell us the facts that you know. 

The guy should just have waked away. Any person with common sense and a 10 year old kid would have done that. 

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

No doubt good, sensible advice, but there is a proud history of foreigners supporting just causes throughout history.  Perhaps if more foreign residents in Thailand were brave enough to stand up and be counted, faster progress towards a just and fair society could be made.

Where everybody nuts somebody because they don't agree?

 

Right.  Thats democracy.

[Thomas Hannah]

6 hours ago, chuang said:

Who in his right mind would bring his 10 years old kid to a protest demonstration and argued with the demonstraters.

Maybe he was just out for a walk .and they were speaking english.So he listend to see what it was about.Thai want you to listen to them and agree.Best to ignore them.Sadly ,he learnt the hard way.The thai will say he said something to justify his actions.And that will be the end of it.Farangs own fault.If it was the other way.Go to jail do not pass go ,or pay a huge fine.and if you do not leave thailand very quickly.expect to be attacked by many when you are on your own relaxing.WELCOME TO THAILAND.

[smudger1951]

4 hours ago, Shuya said:

Guess the Russians DNA got triggered when he saw a democratic movement that wants to depose a totalitarian leader

I should go back and check the video, the russian must have made a gesture or heckled the thai guy. If this is a temperature check of LOS, it's high !

[pathologix]

Wait. I thought the protestors were in favor of free speech and a diversity of political opinions? Someone needs to translate John Stuart Mill into Thai... 

[BKKBike09]

6 hours ago, tgw said:

could someone please translate what was said in Thai towards the beginning of the video?

Prayuth bad blah blah blah economy bad blah blah blah Covid blah blah democracy blah blah fruitcakes on special offer aisle 9 [I made that bit up] blah blah 

 

1:18 some woman says that 'a farang came to stir up trouble' 

2:56 the 'headbutter' says 'I didn't hit him. I was/am angry'

 

 

[tgw]

1 minute ago, pathologix said:

Wait. I thought the protestors were in favor of free speech and a diversity of political opinions? Someone needs to translate John Stuart Mill into Thai... 

 

he is a red shirt who "joined forces" with pro-democracy protesters. the pro-democracy guys need to be very careful about who they let "help" their cause. redshirts and pro-democracy have the same enemies, but they clearly aren't the same people.

[tgw]

Just now, BKKBike09 said:

Prayuth bad blah blah blah economy bad blah blah blah Covid blah blah democracy blah blah fruitcakes on special offer aisle 9 [I made that bit up] blah blah 

 

1:18 some woman says that 'a farang came to stir up trouble' 

2:56 the 'headbutter' says 'I didn't hit him. I was/am angry'

 

"farang" was uttered several times around the 1:00 minute mark, it would be good to know what exactly was said.

and then of course what "trouble" she meant

Edited November 9, 2020 by tgw

[tonysilly]

Funny   I did not see a ploice on the video????  I guess the monitor from afar? 

[Andrew65]

Just now, tonysilly said:

Funny   I did not see a ploice on the video????  I guess the monitor from afar? 

...ploice??! Are you from Birmingham?????

[talahtnut]

More Russian interference?

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, 4reaL said:

Shame the little girl had to witness that.

 

 

Shame the father had to make an altercation.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, chuang said:

Who in his right mind would bring his 10 years old kid to a protest demonstration and argued with the demonstraters.

A Russian not in his right mind.

[talahtnut]

5 minutes ago, tonysilly said:

Funny   I did not see a ploice on the video????  I guess the monitor from afar? 

Oirish?

[tgw]

a longer video of the incident has been posted by "The Pattaya News" :

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=380767103242642

 

maybe it will allow to better understand what happened.

 

also, the other leader continued the speech after the incident, it would be interesting to know what he said

Edited November 9, 2020 by tgw

[onebir]

7 hours ago, Grumpy one said:

Who would have guessed Narathiwat was of Scottish decent.

Giving the Russian a Glasgow kiss, what's next

A Cosmpolitan? At least it wasn't a Screwdriver...

[Peterw42]

7 minutes ago, tgw said:

a longer video of the incident has been posted by "The Pattaya News" :

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=380767103242642

 

maybe it will allow to better understand what happened.

 

also, the other leader continued the speech after the incident, it would be interesting to know what he said

looks like the same video

[tgw]

Just now, Peterw42 said:

looks like the same video

oh - I might have posted a wrong link

[Superphoenix]

6 hours ago, alianware said:

Yes, but you are in other country with other rule and other culture. Dont live in other world with your whole culture. You must adapt yourself. Even native people won't dare to challange it. Why you as foreigner should do it ? 

You mean, back to the jungle? Feel free... 

[Megasin1]

You could rightly say that the Russian didn't display the best sense, but get real !!! You cannot condone in any way the behaviour of the woman or the thug and people that do need to take a good look at themselves in the mirror. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for this red shirts racist, brutal behaviour and whether or not the Russian should have been there is just, as usual typical snowflake reasoning, whereby the victim of an assault is blamed for the crime.  It is a reflection of some peoples total disregard of the law in Thailand that at an event that is being filmed by many does not in any way deflect them from the path of their upbringing, he is obviously so sure of himself that he feels he can attack people openly in public, whilst being filmed and nothing will come of it. I have seen posts excusing this and saying that he is not a reflection of the democratic party but i didn't see any of them intervening at what was their rally. If the Russians intention was to provoke this sort of a reaction then it surely shows the stupidity of the Thais at the event. It is a real shame that this man's daughter was subjected to seeing this and was also in receipt of the abuse from the woman. Xenophobic, racist and downright so dumb display of utter ignorance. A really, really good advert for Thailand, displaying the true under-belly of suppressed hatred and frustration that lurks beneath the smile.

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Victornoir said:

The Thai demands democracy and boxes the first foreigner who does not share his opinion.

They demand freedom of speech then tell anyone that says something they don't like to shut up.

 

They demand human rights but don't care about anyone's but their own.

[natway09]

As a farang take your 10 year old daughter to a rally that had a good chance of turning violent.

He has got rocks in his head

[JeffersLos]

53 minutes ago, khunpa said:

The guy should just have waked away.

 

You said: "Arguing with Thais"

 

The question was: "How was he arguing? What did he say to them? Tell us the facts that you know. "

 

You obviously don't have the answer.

 

Because you made it up just to blame the victim of an assault? 

[from the home of CC]

7 hours ago, champers said:

The Russian gent kept his cool, his Thai assailant competely lost it and deserves to be charged with GBH. What caused the confrontation in the first place; anyone know?

Thai news reporting the Russian said to the protester that it was the protests fault for loss of business in the area. IMO if you don't have a vote here, stay the hell away from the protests - it's not your affair. I can imagine the result if some Thai in Russia starting lecturing them on their civil rights lol. Lesson? Don't stick your nose in another countries politics - you might get it kissed by a forehead. And to put your child in between? What was he doing using her thinking Thais would let him be an a$$**** because he had his kid there? Nice father lol..

[BangkokReady]

8 minutes ago, Megasin1 said:

he is obviously so sure of himself that he feels he can attack people openly in public, whilst being filmed and nothing will come of it

Given that it was a foreigner, he's probably right.  Especially as the anti-foreigner feelings have been ratcheted up since covid.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

Thai news reporting the Russian said to the protester that it was the protests fault for loss of business in the area. IMO if you don't have a vote here, stay the hell away from the protests - it's not your affair. I can imagine the result if some Thai in Russia starting lecturing them on their civil rights lol. Lesson? Don't stick your nose in another countries politics - you might get it kissed by a forehead. And to put your child in between? What was he doing using her thinking Thais would let him be an a$$**** because he had his kid there? Nice father lol..

Wow if he really did that what an idiot! If.

[bodga]

7 hours ago, alianware said:

no farang has right to say anything !

oh  my sides  my  sides

[mahjongguy]

1 hour ago, khunpa said:

Plain stupid to get involved in a Thai protest and even more stupid to bring a kid.

 

There's no reason to think he brought his kid to a protest.

 

This happened on Jomtien Beach Road at an L-shaped corner. It's the normal path for everyone who comes from the restaurants and shops along Thrappraya Road and wants to stroll the beach walk. Pretty much unavoidable whether on a bike, in a car, or on foot.

 

There's a dozen people with microphones saying stuff in a language he doesn't understand. They seem quite serious about themselves so he smirks. The leader curses him, then headbutts him. Some b**ch struts over and gives him the finger, and sticks in his daughter's face too.     

 

Hey Ho Democracy.

[Pilotman]

7 hours ago, 4reaL said:

Shame the little girl had to witness that.

 

 

she must already be aware that her father is an idiot.