Biden camp considers legal action over agency's delay in recognizing transition

[meechai]

4 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

Trump is appealing for funds to fund his court cases to fight the election results. If you look at the fine print in these appeals it says that half the money will be used to pay off his campaign debt. This is why he is not conceding now. He is heavily in debt from the campaign. Just looking to fleece more of his gullible supporters to pay off his debt.

 

Both Trump & Biden are doing this

Trump and Biden continue fundraising as they lawyer up for legal battle
 

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Biden’s camp launched a new committee, the Biden Fight Fund, to defend against an onslaught of lawsuits. A recent email from Biden’s camp asks supporters to “chip in $25 to help us assemble a massive legal effort that will ensure that our democratic process prevails.”

While campaigns can pay for legal services, both candidates may also rely on party committee accounts dedicated to recounts and other legal battles.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Scott
Edited for Fair Use Policy

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Some of you seem somewhat confused so let me clarify ;

Biden is the new president , Trump is an I'll mannered , trucculent loser !

All clear now ?

 

Biden isnt actually the President yet , but OK 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

25 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Now that's what I call grasping at straws lol.

There is more chance of Godzila winning the next election than this one being avoided.

Many people have suggested that a great number of Trump supporters are utterly delusional , the evidence for that seems to be climbing rapidly.

Personally I am enjoying watching Trump and his supporters slowly drown in this egotistical denial (love Rudy's press conference in front of the Adult Book Store\Crematorium...totally awesome). Trump's behavior the past week is the final vindication that he was and is basically a self serving pathological narcissist that only has his own interests at heart and will always place himself ahead of the country. The best thing about this denialfest is we have not seen his orange face on TV in days...cant wait for his trial vs The State Of New York (among the other legal embroilments sure to come his way in the next couple of years....lawsuits...foreclosures...divorces...etc etc...delicious)

Edited November 10, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai

[joecoolfrog]

6 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

That's a false and misleading statement.  The election has not been certified.  No one is the winner or loser as of this moment.

Wanna bet , I will be generous and give you 2/1 Trump.

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Trump takes no salary.  He donates it.  You can claim anything you want about his personal finances but without any evidence then you are simply stating potentially false and misleading statements regarding his debt.  America's claim to fame regarding incarceration rates did not happen under Trump.

 

By all means DO NOT answer my three questions.  Avoid answering at all costs, even if you have to change the subject matter to something  else.  Those three questions may be toxic to you.

The only thing toxic is the way Trump supporters will use any excuse to rationalise his behavior. His debt is a matter of record.

After Trump has insulted, demeaned and ridiculed people on a daily basis, people who have only been trying to do their jobs, you now expect him to be extended grace and favor? He's killed thousands of people with his inaction on the pandemic, you expect forbearance? You parrot his legal rights, when all the evidence suggests it's a last desperate throw of the dice the campaign team of lickspittles can't even pay for?

Trump has stoked anger in his supporters, you don't think his cruelty has stoked anger in people who think he is a lying grub?

Trump is not obstructing transition because he thinks he can win, he and his minion are doing it out of sheer spite. And this is a man you obviously admire. Says a lot about your own values.

He's a sore loser, and so are you.

[candide]

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Really ?

I think you will find that in the last election the call was made before all votes were counted, and for the vast majority of elections preceding that.

I know , you know and every sane person in the universe knows that this is just Trump being a baby.

At the end of the day it just confirms what many of us have known all along , Trump only cares about himself and to help with the consequences, the GOP will not come out of this very well.

 

Unfortunately, I think it's not just Trump being a baby. It's an organised attempt by Trump and the GOP to definitively embark their supporters to an alternate reality. Actually, they seem to be quite successful as 70% of GOP voters believe Trump's claims. Lies are being institutionalized and it's not going to be over soon.

[Lacessit]

45 minutes ago, candide said:

Unfortunately, I think it's not just Trump being a baby. It's an organised attempt by Trump and the GOP to definitively embark their supporters to an alternate reality. Actually, they seem to be quite successful as 70% of GOP voters believe Trump's claims. Lies are being institutionalized and it's not going to be over soon.

You're very probably right, democracy would die with Trump staying as President. He's on record as admiring despots.

[candide]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

You're very probably right, democracy would die with Trump staying as President. He's on record as admiring despots.

Even after he leaves, the alternate reality will not vanish....

Edited November 10, 2020 by candide

[ThailandRyan]

9 hours ago, Lacessit said:

If you want to talk about equal justice, please tell me how America has one of the highest incarceration rates in the world, way over-represented by black Americans?

I suppose that's Trumps fault as well.  Look a little further and you will find that the ENTIRE Political and Democratic process from voting to filling positions and passing laws involves the entire current houses and senates in all States as well as the Federal government.

[shdmn]

3 hours ago, candide said:

Unfortunately, I think it's not just Trump being a baby. It's an organised attempt by Trump and the GOP to definitively embark their supporters to an alternate reality. Actually, they seem to be quite successful as 70% of GOP voters believe Trump's claims. Lies are being institutionalized and it's not going to be over soon.

It is political theater, nothing more.  70% of GOP voters are idiots.  They desperately grasp on to every lie and conspiracy theory because they seem to have this overwhelming need to feel like they know more than smart people.

Edited November 11, 2020 by shdmn

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, shdmn said:

It is political theater, nothing more.  70% of GOP voters are morons.  They desperately grasp on to every lie and conspiracy theory because they seem to have this overwhelming need to feel like they know more than smart people.

Yet there is no political theater or grandstanding on the other side of the aisle. It unfortunately cuts both ways and all political minded folks are consumed with their own ideas and agendas.  So cut the <deleted>. Politics is nothing more than a game of gamesmanship, and those that can take advantage of it will.

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Yet there is no political theater or grandstanding on the other side of the aisle. It unfortunately cuts both ways and all political minded folks are consumed with their own ideas and agendas.  So cut the <deleted>. Politics is nothing more than a game of gamesmanship, and those that can take advantage of it will.

Which has nothing to do with the post you replied to. 70% of gop voters are morons for believing the lies that are so obvious.

[Throatwobbler]

5 hours ago, meechai said:

 

Both Trump & Biden are doing this

Trump and Biden continue fundraising as they lawyer up for legal battle
 

 

You missed my point that half of the money being raised by Trump for the legal battle is going to pay off his campaign debt. I have not seen anything saying that this is the same for Biden.

  
Trump knows. He cannot win. He is dragging this out so he can raise money just so he can pay off his debt. 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Which has nothing to do with the post you replied to. 70% of gop voters are morons for believing the lies that are so obvious.

Continue to believe that the other side does not lie and never has and your in for a real treat during this next 4 years as the Democrats continue with their lies and so does the GOP. It cuts both ways so you might want to sit back and watch as more political theater unfolds on both sides.

[teacherclaire]

They certainly seem to be falling in behind there (losing) candidate. Gone nuts, or gone Trump, there again, is their a difference?

 

There's no difference. Gone nuts, gone Trump should be in all dictionaries for being in_ane. 

[Throatwobbler]

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Continue to believe that the other side does not lie and never has and your in for a real treat during this next 4 years as the Democrats continue with their lies and so does the GOP. It cuts both ways so you might want to sit back and watch as more political theater unfolds on both sides.

Once again still nothing to do with The original post.

Edited November 11, 2020 by Throatwobbler

[Tug]

11 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Continue to believe that the other side does not lie and never has and your in for a real treat during this next 4 years as the Democrats continue with their lies and so does the GOP. It cuts both ways so you might want to sit back and watch as more political theater unfolds on both sides.

Hey let’s just all quit trying and let the country slide into an authoritarian police state hummm just sad

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

Once again still nothing to do with Sujos original post but there you go.

As usual closed minded comments with agendas and views of your own. Enjoy your view of the political games as they unfold.  I don't do politics as they remind me of my CEO boardroom.  It is why I closed up the business with Covids help.  Happy to be retired and enjoying my life that is not impacted very much by anyone except for myself and family.  

[stevenl]

19 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Continue to believe that the other side does not lie and never has and your in for a real treat during this next 4 years as the Democrats continue with their lies and so does the GOP. It cuts both ways so you might want to sit back and watch as more political theater unfolds on both sides.

Nobody is claiming the other side doesn't lie. But Trump and GOP have taken it to a new level both regarding numbers and regarding believability. The first being high, the second low, but still scoped up by his supporters.

 

'Both sides' is just deflecting away from Trump.

[Jeffr2]

We are again, the laughing stock of the world. Never in our wildest dreams world we have thought the Secretary of State would question the integrity of our democracy. Pompeo should be put in jail

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/10/us/joe-biden-trump?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#pompeo-backs-trumps-actions-to-contest-election-results-and-biden-calls-them-an-embarrassment

 

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday predicted “a smooth transition to a second Trump administration,” defending President Trump’s refusal to concede the election even as President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. called Mr. Trump’s actions since Election Day “an embarrassment.”

[ThailandRyan]

It is an equal playing field.  A game played by all, but currently played in the minds of many.  It is fascinating to see such hatred for a man instead of all those equally deplorable.

Edited November 11, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[Jeffr2]

Pure politics on the parts of Pompeo and McConnell. Pompeo wants to run for president and is using his position for political purposes. Pandering to Trump’s clueless base.

 

McConnell is only concerned about the 2 upcoming elections in Georgia for senate. If he loses them, he's no longer senate speaker. Which would be a win for America.

 

The GOP is out of control. We're fast approaching 200,000 covid cases a day. And this is what the GOP  cares about. Horrible politicians.

[Sujo]

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is an equal playing field.  A game played by all, but currently played in the minds of many.  It is fascinating to see such hatred for a man instead of all those equally deplorable.

Who is equally deplorable with trump? The man has no equal.

[Jeffr2]

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is an equal playing field.  A game played by all, but currently played in the minds of many.  It is fascinating to see such hatred for a man instead of all those equally deplorable.

You seem very one sided. There is no comparison to what the GOP is currently doing to what the dems are doing. One is undermining our democracy. The other is trying to save American lives by focusing on the virus.

 

Horrible. And sad some can't comprehend this.

[Throatwobbler]

46 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

As usual closed minded comments with agendas and views of your own. Enjoy your view of the political games as they unfold.  I don't do politics as they remind me of my CEO boardroom.  It is why I closed up the business with Covids help.  Happy to be retired and enjoying my life that is not impacted very much by anyone except for myself and family.  

You don’t do politics yet you are all over a political thread. Hmmmmm

[Throatwobbler]

33 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is an equal playing field.  A game played by all, but currently played in the minds of many.  It is fascinating to see such hatred for a man instead of all those equally deplorable.

The fact that you seem to be siding with a bigot, a racist,  a sexist, someone who has refused to condemn white supremacy when given the chance says a lot to me about your character.

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

You don’t do politics yet you are all over a political thread. Hmmmmm

Don't dig your heels into the ground and try and guess my motives, should you try and see the whole picture it is not just about politics.  Only those that truly believe it is one side against another would comprehend your way of thinking.  Instead think outside of the box and play the middle for a few minutes to see both sides of the equation from a geopolitical view.  The US's divisiveness is creating a huge vacuum to be filled by someone or something, and the US politicians are to consumed by there own greed and agendas to realize it.  A country can not be a world leader if it can not align itself inside of it's own borders.

[TopDeadSenter]

8 minutes ago, Throatwobbler said:

The fact that you seem to be siding with a bigot, a racist,  a sexist, someone who has refused to condemn white supremacy when given the chance says a lot to me about your character.

"someone who has refused to condemn white supremacy"

 

100% untrue. Easily verifiable. Pls stop with misleading and false statements.

 

 

Trump, Aug. 14, 2017: "As I said on Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America.

And as I have said many times before: No matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws, we all salute the same great flag, and we are all made by the same almighty God. We must love each other, show affection for each other, and unite together in condemnation of hatred, bigotry, and violence. We must rediscover the bonds of love and loyalty that bring us together as Americans.

Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.

We are a nation founded on the truth that all of us are created equal. We are equal in the eyes of our Creator. We are equal under the law. And we are equal under our Constitution. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America."

 

Trump, Aug. 14, 2017: "Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."

 

Trump, Aug. 15, 2017: "I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally."

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/

 

 Biden and the MSM should be sued for lying again and again with their falsely claiming Trump did not renounce white supremacists. 

[xylophone]

14 hours ago, placeholder said:

The thing is, over and over again I've debunked these reports. They just don't look credible. And thanks to the internet, it's really easy to debunk them. I just wonder why it is that so many Trump supporters can't be bothered to do the same.

A few possibilities for you.:- can't read, computer illiterate, cognitive dissonance, cult followers....to name just a few. 

[joecoolfrog]

12 hours ago, shdmn said:

Biden is now up to 50.8% of the popular vote.  Topping Reagan's 50.7% in 1980.  This is the highest percentage for a challenger since FDR in 1932.

 

Instead of wasting time going down the rabbit hole of repub lies (but I repeat myself), the media should be saying "Joe Biden wins largest popular mandate since 1932".

So Trump , by extension , is the biggest loser since the great depression, another win !