'Nothing's going to stop' transition of power in U.S., Biden says

[Eric Loh]

Everyday Biden's lead widens. He is not distracted by Trump's sideshow. He is hitting the road running with the formation of the covid-19 task force and filling up roles for his administration while basement Trump stay rooted in the White House. Nothing will stop the transition of power to a more capable and competent man. Trump is toast and yesterday news. 

[Average man]

Yes , media projections are only an opinion , not fact .

[Sujo]

9 minutes ago, Average man said:

Yes , media projections are only an opinion , not fact .

They are fact, biden won. Now just waiting for officials to meet. But that doesnt change the fact he won.

[Skallywag]

Some people still saying that "electoral votes" in certain states can be influenced by republican governors if the recount / final votes are less than 1% in Bidens favor.  Never been done, but not out of the realm that our current POTUS may try and influence. 

December 14th is when the "Electors vote for their State"  officially .  

I cannot tell you how the "electoral college" works, but this is one reason POTUS will not concede IMO.  

Edited November 12, 2020 by Skallywag

[Sujo]

12 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

World leaders are in contact with Biden now and looking at America and wondering for sure.

But then there is this pettiness. Trump is blocking messages from world leaders getting to biden. So the leaders have been circumventing the state dept to get their messages to him.

 

https://www.kctv5.com/state-department-is-preventing-biden-from-accessing-messages-from-foreign-leaders/article_ab11a711-c368-5156-aca7-ffb4722a86b7.html

[Eric Loh]

The people has spoken and Biden is President elect. He has conclusively projected to win. This is the norm in every presidential elections. He will take the oath of office in January. Why so hard to understand. 

Edited November 12, 2020 by onthedarkside
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[Silurian]

It looks like even the official White House Gift Shop recognizes that Biden will be the next US President. They have Biden listed as the 46th President of the United States and have a page already set up.

 

Collectibles and Gifts of The White House Gift Shop for 46th President of the United States Joseph R. Biden

 

 

[Skallywag]

Just now, Eric Loh said:

The people has spoken and Biden is President elect. He has conclusively projected to win. This is the norm in every presidential elections. He will take the oath of office in January. Why so hard to understand. 

Yes - the "people spoke" with 2 million more votes for HRC in 2016, but Trump won.  

 

[Psimbo]

44 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You're correct. He merely proposed injecting disinfectant. Hey, his uncle was a scientist!

He gets around things and denies it by fronting his statements with 'maybe' 'I don't know but' , 'who knows', 'It could be true', etc. This is followed up by frantic back-pedalling and 'what the President meant was' or 'he was being sarcastic'.

 

Veiling the statements still puts it out there as with the bleach and lights things but the 'True Believers ' fall for it. There are a number of documented cases of people trying the bleach following his statements but that says it all about The Base'.

 

As for the comments about the guy 'recounting' his statement it's 'recant'. Just failing to get that word correct casts doubt on the veracity of the statement and its source.

 

Remember kids- today's Kool Aid flavour is Orange.????

Edited November 12, 2020 by Psimbo

[Eric Loh]

2 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

Yes - the "people spoke" with 2 million more votes for HRC in 2016, but Trump won.  

 

Egregious win in the eyes of all people who subscribed to democracy and election taking place under universal suffrage. But we have to accept the idiosyncratic nature of the US constitution. This time Joe won the popular vote (big) and the electoral college and that's an infinite endorsement and trust by the people for him to heal and lead the country.

[Skallywag]

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Egregious win in the eyes of all people who subscribed to democracy and election taking place under universal suffrage. But we have to accept the idiosyncratic nature of the US constitution. This time Joe won the popular vote (big) and the electoral college and that's an infinite endorsement and trust by the people for him to heal and lead the country.

Agree, yet there are U.S. constitutional scholars who say the final electoral college vote in states can be decided by republican governors possibly. This has never occurred in 244 years, but the constitutional loophole does exist according to some.  And this is why the POTUS will likely not concede even with pressure coming from many in his own party.    

[patman30]

On 11/11/2020 at 6:15 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Who is right? Who is wrong? No idea, but it seems prudent to wait for official confirmation before getting too carried away.

exactly
most people do not even realise the electors vote does not happen til December 14th,

and then it is not til January 6th that the electoral votes are counted and the election results are declared.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11641

but the tellybox and the intyweb said it, so it must be true.????‍♂️

[spidermike007]

This is absolutely true. With clowns like Pompeo mouthing off about a second term, this is simply a stage play, at this point. According to many sources, mid to lower level White House staffers are already looking for their next job, and many others in the administration admit this is over. Trump just does not have it within him to behave in a dignified, graceful, eloquent, and decent manner. He has to create chaos. His entire mind is constantly engulfed in chaos, and everything he does is a reflection of that unhinged psychosis. The GOP is going themselves no good at this point, by lining up behind him. And the talk of him running again in 2024, is just talk. After he steps away, and endures the declining fortunes, and radioactive name, nobody is going to want to touch this fool. 

 

On Monday, as White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany delivered a baseless rant about voter fraud to reporters and the American public, Fox News host Neil Cavuto decided to pull the plug. “Unless she has more details to back that up, I can’t in good countenance continue showing you this,” Cavuto said. The move almost immediately drew ecstatic praise from media observers. 

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/160160/neil-cavuto-trump-gop-rehabilitation

 

And so, from Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on down, the name of the game is patience. Accept that the president has a right to make his claims, give him time to vent his frustration, but figure that there will be no evidence of sufficient magnitude to change the results of the election.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54897627

 

In the meantime there is also growing frustration inside the White House — what allies described as “embarrassment” as well as “uncertainty and doubt and confusion” — over the president’s refusal to acknowledge the election result and chart a path forward. “This is unsustainable,” another aide said. “Overwhelmingly, the understanding is getting into the president’s ear that he needs to have a strategy to move on,” one aide said.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-may-accept-results-never-concede-he-lost-aides-say-n1247445

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by spidermike007

[Skallywag]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Trump just does not have it within him to behave in a dignified, graceful, eloquent, and decent manner. He has to create chaos. His entire mind is constantly engulfed in chaos, and everything he does is a reflection of that unhinged psychosis.

This says it all in a nutshell.  Why I so not think he will concede until after December 14.  Hope I am wrong, but as we all now, this POTUS is unpredictable to say the least. 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

Yes - the "people spoke" with 2 million more votes for HRC in 2016, but Trump won.  

 

 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Egregious win in the eyes of all people who subscribed to democracy and election taking place under universal suffrage. But we have to accept the idiosyncratic nature of the US constitution. This time Joe won the popular vote (big) and the electoral college and that's an infinite endorsement and trust by the people for him to heal and lead the country.

 

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

Agree, yet there are U.S. constitutional scholars who say the final electoral college vote in states can be decided by republican governors possibly. This has never occurred in 244 years, but the constitutional loophole does exist according to some.  And this is why the POTUS will likely not concede even with pressure coming from many in his own party.    

Perhaps, just perhaps, the thinking goes, "we cannot change the popular vote, but we may be able to change the Electoral College vote." It would almost certainly go to the Supreme Court, but maybe they ( he) thinks he can win that too, given the "adjustments" made to the court's composition.

 

It would cause an unprecedented constitutional crisis, but when one is facing the alternatives, possible prosecution for fraud and tax evasion, probable bankruptcy, it may seem a risk worth taking?

[Tug]

All this brouhaha to soothe the ego of this narcissist poor Donald has the sulks get over it this dude has been fed wealth and privilege all his life enough!!resign now and hope pence pardons you would be funney if pence grew a pair and said no donald face the music!!

[Silurian]

 

 

On Dec 14th, the electoral college will meet and determine which candidates get which electoral votes. That is when Biden will receive over the required 270 electoral votes (most likely 306).

 

To overcome your ignorance, I will post the process here.

 

FAQ: What happens next in the presidential election process?

 

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The electoral college meets (December 14)

Of course, the votes for president are actually votes for a slate of electors who cast ballots in the electoral college, a gathering held in the 50 states and the District of Columbia on an appointed day in December after the election.

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by onthedarkside
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[earlinclaifornia]

22 hours ago, riclag said:

It not over buddy ,its being contested,you better deal with it!

 

"As all of these contested elections show, eventually these elections have been resolved, and the loser has stepped aside. But how the outcome is resolved can very quickly fall into a legal gray area.

“The Constitution does not tell you what should happen if there are disputed returns in a presidential election,” says Foner". 

https://time.com/5903361/contested-election-history/

 

You continue to be a top laugh here with little factual posts.Thanks for never trump "give up" for us all.  Sad puppy makes me feel sorry for you.  

[earlinclaifornia]

17 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

I suspect that the current legal antics are designed to ensure that results are not certified by that date. I have heard suggested that, these being somewhat uncharted waters, some Governors will assume the responsibility of either directing their States voters as to how to vote, or replacing them with their own appointees, or, as their State results are not certified, decide that their States electors will not vote; any of these scenarios would sway the Electoral College results in Mr Trumps favour

 

Maybe someone with a deeper knowledge of US constitutional matters would care to comment?

.Supreme Court ruled on this already this year. I know you admit to knowing little but on a positive note living in this conspiracy, fantasy land is refreshing laugh.

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, Average man said:

Yes , media projections are only an opinion , not fact .

Hope you are feeling hopeful while we all get a laugh.

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, Skallywag said:

Agree, yet there are U.S. constitutional scholars who say the final electoral college vote in states can be decided by republican governors possibly. This has never occurred in 244 years, but the constitutional loophole does exist according to some.  And this is why the POTUS will likely not concede even with pressure coming from many in his own party.    

You have no idea what you are saying. Conspiracies are just that.

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, Silurian said:

It looks like even the official White House Gift Shop recognizes that Biden will be the next US President. They have Biden listed as the 46th President of the United States and have a page already set up.

 

Collectibles and Gifts of The White House Gift Shop for 46th President of the United States Joseph R. Biden

 

 

Are you sure that's real? It would mean Mr Trump has no control of that particular business. 

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Are you sure that's real? It would mean Mr Trump has no control of that particular business. 

I don't think there is any connection with the white house.

Still funny.

[Silurian]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Are you sure that's real? It would mean Mr Trump has no control of that particular business. 

 

The White House Gift Shop is privately owned and has no connection with the WH.

 

White House Gift Shop - Wiki Page

 

White House Gift Shop - FAQ

 

And for those of you that want to go off in the weeds.

 

White House Gift Shop, TPM Investigation Continues!

Edited November 12, 2020 by Silurian

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I don't think there is any connection with the white house.

Still funny.

Thanks. Clearly it's a reality based enterprise. 

[Silurian]

Just to show you how petty and small the current WH administration truly is, the State Department won't even forward messages from foreign leaders of congratulations on to Biden. That's Donald, always classy...Not.

 

State Department is preventing Biden from accessing messages from foreign leaders

 

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A stack of messages from foreign leaders to President-elect Joe Biden are sitting at the State Department but the Trump administration is preventing him from accessing them, according to State Department officials familiar with the messages.

Traditionally, the State Department supports all communications for the President-elect, which is why many countries began sending messages to State over the weekend. But with Biden prohibited from accessing State Department resources by the Trump administration, because President Donald Trump refuses to accept Biden's victory, dozens of incoming messages have not been received.

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Silurian

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

Just to show you how petty and small the current WH administration truly is, the State Department won't even forward messages from foreign leaders of congratulations on to Biden. That's Donald, always classy...Not.

 

State Department is preventing Biden from accessing messages from foreign leaders

 

 

 

This is the action of an administration 70+ million Americans voted for - trump is beneath contempt

[ExpatOK]

Let the process play out.  We will know in January at the latest who will be  president.  Not a big deal.

Edited November 12, 2020 by ExpatOK

[Phoenix Rising]

17 minutes ago, ExpatOK said:

Let the process play out.  We will know in January at the latest who will be  president.  Not a big deal.

We know now who will be the next president.

 

[Silurian]

Conservative lawyer John Yoo, who advised Donald on how to bypass Congress, says the constitution will end Donald's term.

 

What if Trump won't concede? The Constitution will end his term, conservative lawyer John Yoo says

 

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The conservative lawyer John Yoo is among the latest legal voices to throw water on U.S. President Donald Trump's attempts to reverse the result of the 2020 election with claims of voter fraud. 

None of these cases really look like they have a very high probability of winning," Yoo said. "On the other hand, I think that Trump has every right to and demand that all the states be sure about the votes, so that we all have confidence in the election. But I'll say, looking at past cases, these are very hard cases to prove and generally they don't result in changes in the votes totals on the order by which President Trump lost to Joe Biden.