Dental work; root canal, post and crown.

[teacherclaire]

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I am in the United States.  Wife had to have that.  For one tooth. 

So far the cost has been about 136,395.66 baht at, the current, now, exchange of 30.31 B to the $ on my exchange app.

Or, $4500.00!!!

That's insane! 

[teacherclaire]

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

I am in the United States.  Wife had to have that.  For one tooth. 

So far the cost has been about 136,395.66 baht at, the current, now, exchange of 30.31 B to the $ on my exchange app.

Or, $4500.00!!!

That's insane! 

[The Fugitive]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. You think it'll be cheaper in the UK? Dreaming if you are, in my experience. The tooth will be OK without a crown for some years, but eventually may dry out and crack as happened with me. Had I had them capped at the time I would not have gaps now.

In such things one gets what one pays for, so don't go for the cheapest.

 

IMO the Thai dentists were better than the ones in the UK.

 

If the tooth goes bad it will affect your health as happened to me.

Thanks, good advice. Under U.K. NHS treatment should come under Band 3 (£269.30) as against 14,000 baht (£350). I was really meaning that I would go by myself home to England and the Mrs wouldn't know what I'd had done. However, I absolutely agree with you and, from what I've seen taking my Mother-in-Law to Thai Government hospitals I too have more faith in them than in U.K. NHS.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, teacherclaire said:

Good dentists are as rare as good wives/ husbands. 

I've found the female dentists in Thailand to be quite good, possibly because they don't let their egos get in the way. I have had one male dentist who was very professional, and another who was full of himself.

[teacherclaire]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I've found the female dentists in Thailand to be quite good, possibly because they don't let their egos get in the way. I have had one male dentist who was very professional, and another who was full of himself.

I had a dentist appointment at the local hospital when a perhaps 23 year old introduced himself as my dentist.

 

    That scared the shi_e out of me and I left the hospital (ran away) and went to my FEMALE dentist who's doing that all her life. 

 

Why do most older foreigners have rotten teeth? Because they either have no money, or they are scared shirtless. 

Edited November 20, 2020 by teacherclaire

[The Fugitive]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I've found the female dentists in Thailand to be quite good, possibly because they don't let their egos get in the way. I have had one male dentist who was very professional, and another who was full of himself.

A young Thai lady dentist (doctor) performed the examination and took X-Ray. She was very good. Unfortunately she doesn't do root canals and has referred me to a male colleague specialist.

[The Fugitive]

2 hours ago, DjSilver said:

no, in Thailand the Thai wife always have to pay or else she is a golddigger or prostitute.

My Thai Mrs has a favourite line for me whenever I do anything she doesn't like;  'Do you want to die?'.

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

My Thai Mrs has a favourite line for me whenever I do anything she doesn't like;  'Do you want to die?'.

My response would be: "Do you want the ATM to close?"

[thecyclist]

4 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

A young Thai lady dentist (doctor) performed the examination and took X-Ray. She was very good. Unfortunately she doesn't do root canals and has referred me to a male colleague specialist.

A dentist who doesn't do root canals, really. There are some that don't do implants, but root treatment is dentistry 101.

[DavisH]

13 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Yes I have had a bad experience with this. I was quoted 6000 for a root canal....I had asked for an extraction but the dentist said no need. Well it wound up costing more than 30,000, what with root planing, filling with bone powder (which fell straight out and cost 10,000). Months after the procedure my tooth was still painful.

 

A friend recommended a clinic in Pattaya. The dentist took a panorex and said the tooth needed to come out as there was very little bone there (1000 baht), he recommended an extraction (10,000 baht). I then got a 'dry socket' which was painful and cost another 1000 in consultation fees. To be fair the Pattaya clinic was excellent....new clean equipment and perfect English. The dry socket was just bad luck.

10K for an extraction....or 1K? I think mine was 300 baht (the logical choice for most poor Thais). 

What was the "bone powder" for? Was the dentist tryignt o do soem kind of bone graft? I don't get that bit. The long term pain after you had work would be due to the bone loss. 

[DavisH]

11 hours ago, superal said:

sounds good , any further info ?

How you gonna get there...and get back to Thailand? With quarantine and insuranve, it would cost a lot more. 

[DavisH]

10 hours ago, The Theory said:

14000 by an experienced dentist is for crown work only. Route canal won't be cheap, 6000 -9000. Extraction could happen after a while if the job has not done by an experienced one. 

Even with good work, crowns can stil come out. And develop decay under them, especially those with poor dental hygeine. 

[TacoKhun]

On 11/17/2020 at 11:14 AM, The Fugitive said:

Yesterday given quote of 14,000 baht at a High Street clinic for root canal, post and crown. Thai Mrs went ballistic and wants me to have an extraction. Any members with experience of this? Is the quote reasonable? Could the dentist's at our local hospital perform this work? Thanks in advance.

who needs teeth anyway

[radiochaser]

9 hours ago, The Fugitive said:

Thanks for reply! No it wasn't a wisdom tooth. I had those removed 45 years ago. Dentist couldn't cope by himself and fetched another brute who ripped my gums apart and stitched them afterwards. Jaw swelled so much had to take next day off work.

Off of the original topic.

 

In  the winter of 1970, Army Dentist told me I had two impacted molars that needed removal.   Went in for the first one.

It was 45 minutes before the tooth was out.  Doc said he had to break it into three pieces.  Even with the local anesthesia, it was a painful process!  

I was given 6,  1/4 grain tablets of codeine for pain afterwards.  Six hours later I had taken two of them.  Was in a lot of pain and took the rest of the four tablets.  Still in a lot of pain.  Still had to go to my military school.  
 

Two weeks later I go back for the tooth on the left.  Different dentist.  As I walked in he asked me, what is wrong with your jaw?  Why is it swollen like that? (what, did he think I had been in a fight or something?)  I put my hand on my right jaw, still feeling the pain from the removal of the tooth and told the doc, it's still swollen from the last extraction. 

Doc asks me did Dr. So & So remove that tooth?  Grabs records and looks, yes, it was!  That <deleted> isn't a dental surgeon, he isn't supposed to be pulling teeth!

The new doc preps me for injections, sticks needle in, leaves and comes back in 5 minutes, tests me to see if injections worked.  Fiddles around in my mouth, turns away to the work tray, turns back, asks me why I still have my mouth open.  Me, I am waiting for you to take the tooth out.  He gives me an odd look and says, it's out.  You can leave.   Time from injections and leaving the dental chair, 15 minutes!

Aspirin for the pain afterwards, no pain the next day.  Four weeks later my right jaw still swollen!!

Edited November 20, 2020 by radiochaser

[radiochaser]

3 hours ago, DavisH said:

Even with good work, crowns can stil come out. And develop decay under them, especially those with poor dental hygeine. 

I had dental work by a dentist at a U.S. Veterans Hospital.  Guy removed an old metal filling and put a new ceramic filling in the tooth.   

A couple of months later, in Thailand, I had sudden severe pain on that side.  Wife took me to a local dentist.  After x-ray pictures were put on the screen I looked at that tooth, the dentist and I spoke at the same time, there is a cavity under that filling!

I went back to VA and asked for copies of their x-rays.  I could see the cavity that was there before the dentist replaced the filling. 

I won't go into the other strange stuff that happened during that dental visit at the VA hospital!

And I do take care of my teeth.  Had a dental hygienist tell me that it was rare to see someone with gums as healthy as mine are.  

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by radiochaser

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

First, my advice to you is to do all you can to save a tooth, which means yes, go for the root canal and crown. That is an efficient way to save your tooh, and if done right, it can last a life time.

My second advice to you is to choose a GOOD doctor. In thailand  a good doctor can be cheap or expensive, it has nothing to do with the price. You should talk to people - but not your wife - and try to

get a reccomendation. do not try to save here. It is not a question of price but if the doctor is charging you 30,000 baht (quite cheap in western terms) and is good, better pay it.

 

and last, you should be lucky and find the good doctor on a good day. i had a thai dentist for years, she was very good and allways did a good job, until one day i came to her on a bad day for a root canal work. I could feel she is not calm and trying to finish job too fast.

the result is that after she finished the treatment and silled the tooth, i still suffered pain. i went

to another dentist and he x-rated the tooth and showed me that the treatment was not good, the root is still alive, and that is why it is painfull, and now i will have to go for another root canal work on the same tooth.

Edited November 20, 2020 by SCOTT FITZGERSLD

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

15 hours ago, teacherclaire said:

Why do plenty of foreigners have rotten teeth? 

It is because they like to give to their wives oral sex even in old age.

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

15 hours ago, Darkside Gray said:

Go to Vietnam so much cheaper

india even cheaper, can get an extraction for 42 baht with a street dentist.

[tonray]

Cheap as Chips...tell wifey she'll have to forgo Five star Chicken and stick to Kuay Teaw for a for months

[globalspark]

I think 10000-140000 for a root canal si about the correct price and a crown is around the 20000 baht  range depending on what  materials you want.  Implants normal cost around 44000-50000 baht complete. You pay  around 30000 for the implant then another 20000  3 months later for the  crown.

 Dentist prices  have been  the same for a long time but the baht has gone up 33 plus %

 I  use to work out Thai Dentist were 25% the price of Australian Dentist but these days  around 50%. I use a Dentist in Pattaya  who is not the cheapest  but happy with her work . The   surgery is very clean and has  modern  equipment.

 It is always hard to find a  dentist who has a good command of English  so he or she can explain exactly what is is  doing or going to do.

 My friend uses Hollywood   Dentist in Pattaya  who I have also used  prior to my  my  surgery at  Emporium  who are at Naklua.

[The Theory]

12 hours ago, DavisH said:

Even with good work, crowns can stil come out. And develop decay under them, especially those with poor dental hygeine. 

The most it depends on the dentist and how good the bonding is (and how we keep our teeth clean+type of teeth). And perhaps some more factors. 
 

[The Fugitive]

14 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

First, my advice to you is to do all you can to save a tooth, which means yes, go for the root canal and crown. That is an efficient way to save your tooh, and if done right, it can last a life time.

My second advice to you is to choose a GOOD doctor. In thailand  a good doctor can be cheap or expensive, it has nothing to do with the price. You should talk to people - but not your wife - and try to

get a reccomendation. do not try to save here. It is not a question of price but if the doctor is charging you 30,000 baht (quite cheap in western terms) and is good, better pay it.

 

and last, you should be lucky and find the good doctor on a good day. i had a thai dentist for years, she was very good and allways did a good job, until one day i came to her on a bad day for a root canal work. I could feel she is not calm and trying to finish job too fast.

the result is that after she finished the treatment and silled the tooth, i still suffered pain. i went

to another dentist and he x-rated the tooth and showed me that the treatment was not good, the root is still alive, and that is why it is painfull, and now i will have to go for another root canal work on the same tooth.

Sound advice thank you! Just got back from the dental clinic. The 'specialist' had to take another X-ray. He suggested that as the previous filling had lasted many years the simple solution would be to put in another. So that's what I've had done today. Cost 1,270 baht.     

[The Fugitive]

8 hours ago, tonray said:

Cheap as Chips...tell wifey she'll have to forgo Five star Chicken and stick to Kuay Teaw for a for months

Absolutely correct! She went with me today to the dental clinic and had three fillings done herself. On my credit card of course. You have to laugh! 

[The Fugitive]

23 hours ago, Lacessit said:

My response would be: "Do you want the ATM to close?"

Like this very much!

[The Fugitive]

19 hours ago, thecyclist said:

A dentist who doesn't do root canals, really. There are some that don't do implants, but root treatment is dentistry 101.

Surprised me too! The first dentist (doctor) I went to was a one-woman surgery in my small home town. She told me a filling wasn't possible, needed extraction or root canal work that she doesn't do and telephoned a colleague in a multi-dentist practice in the next larger town. At that practice a young woman dentist examined me and took X-ray. She told me my options were either root canal or extraction. I decided to go with the root canal, she said I don't do them and organised an appointment with a specialist at same practice. Today the specialist had to take another X-ray and suggested the simplest option was to replace the broken filling, which he has now done for 1,270 baht.

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, The Fugitive said:

Surprised me too! The first dentist (doctor) I went to was a one-woman surgery in my small home town. She told me a filling wasn't possible, needed extraction or root canal work that she doesn't do and telephoned a colleague in a multi-dentist practice in the next larger town. At that practice a young woman dentist examined me and took X-ray. She told me my options were either root canal or extraction. I decided to go with the root canal, she said I don't do them and organised an appointment with a specialist at same practice. Today the specialist had to take another X-ray and suggested the simplest option was to replace the broken filling, which he has now done for 1,270 baht.

My local clinic is the same. If you want a certain kind of work done, they it's done on a certain day by a certain dentist. I think they rotate among different clinics and.they have more customers than they can cope with individually. Either way, I would prefer to get the root canal work from a dentist that does it all the time. Same for the crowns and.implants.

[Sheryl]

22 hours ago, thecyclist said:

A dentist who doesn't do root canals, really. There are some that don't do implants, but root treatment is dentistry 101.

not in Thailand, it isn't. Only specialists do them here.

 

In the province where I live -- which has abundant numbers of general dentists - there is only one who does root canals.

 

 

[thecyclist]

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

not in Thailand, it isn't. Only specialists do them here.

 

In the province where I live -- which has abundant numbers of general dentists - there is only one who does root canals.

 

 

Interesting : I lived in Thailand for 30 years, and having extremely bad teeth, I got to know a lot of dentists, although only in 4 provinces, Bangkok, Chonburi, Rayong, Prachinburi. I probably visited at least a 100 clinics to inquire about rates, and ended up being treated in over 30. If my memory serves me right, most of them had root treatment on their 'menu'.

3 years ago I moved to Vietnam and got to know the local dental scene. Prices here are lower, but while most dentists in Thailand (at least the ones I visited) could speak English, it is very hard to find an English speaking dentist in Vietnam. But had 2 root canals done here recently, and was stunned when I was presented with the bill : 900 Baht (450 Baht for a root treatment). For Saving that much money you can put up with having to communicate via Google translate. 

[Sheryl]

12 hours ago, thecyclist said:

Interesting : I lived in Thailand for 30 years, and having extremely bad teeth, I got to know a lot of dentists, although only in 4 provinces, Bangkok, Chonburi, Rayong, Prachinburi. I probably visited at least a 100 clinics to inquire about rates, and ended up being treated in over 30. If my memory serves me right, most of them had root treatment on their 'menu'.

 

 

May have been on the "menu" but would likely have been only 1 specialist doing them and nto there everyday.

 

I am in Prachinburi.

 

Only 1 dentist in the province does root canals. He divides him time between the main government hospital and Red Cross dental clinic (and probably also at some private clinic though I never could find out where).

 

Both dental and medical care in Thailand are extremely specialized and generalists here have very limited ranges, much less than in the west.  I'm not sure how much that is due to mediocre basic general training and how much is the medical/dental culture.

[baansgr]

It's over the top expensive. I just had a lot of work done including 2 crowns...each 6k, no root canal required after xray but cost would have been 2k...so 8k in total...others in the same area are charging 12 k and 4k respectively, so similar to your quite. I can't praise my dentist enough...excellent work and, fluent English, and prefers to save teeth rather than extract and do implants.