WHO says would be 'highly speculative' to say COVID did not emerge in China

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WHO says would be 'highly speculative' to say COVID did not emerge in China

 

Mike Ryan, Executive Director of the World Health Organisation (WHO) attends a news conference on the Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo at the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland May 3, 2019. REUTERS/Denis Balibouse

 

GENEVA (Reuters) - The World Health Organization's top emergency expert said on Friday it would be "highly speculative" for the WHO to say the coronavirus did not emerge in China, where it was first identified in a food market in December last year.

 

China is pushing a narrative via state media that the virus existed abroad before it was discovered in the central city of Wuhan, citing the presence of coronavirus on imported frozen food packaging and scientific papers claiming it had been circulating in Europe last year.

 

"I think it's highly speculative for us to say that the disease did not emerge in China," Mike Ryan said at a virtual briefing in Geneva after being asked if COVID-19 could have first emerged outside China.

 

"It is clear from a public health perspective that you start your investigations where the human cases first emerged," he added, saying that evidence might then lead to other places.

 

He repeated that the WHO intended to send researchers to the Wuhan food market to probe the virus origins further.

 

The WHO has been accused by the Trump administration of being "China-centric", allegations it has repeatedly denied.

 

(Reporting by Stephanie Nebehay and Emma Farge in Geneva and Michael Shields in Zurich; Writing by Nick Macfie; Editing by Toby Chopra)

 

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[Enzian]

The WHO intends to send researchers to the Wuhan food market? They haven't had enough time yet?

Has there not been any independent investigation of that location yet? A call for such has been a main reason for the ongoing Chinese bullying of Australia, which has recently been ramped up a notch.

Yesterday I read an interview with an Italian scientist, in Il Giornale, who said we don't at this time know any animals that are able to catch the virus from us, and by "any" I have to assume he's including bats. So if they can't catch it from us, how did we catch it from them? 

All this going and much of the West is merely trying to figure out how we all can start making money with China again-to say nothing of Thailand.

[Phuketshrew]

Over 60 million cases and 1.44 million deaths. WHO are you?

Covid-19 originated in China and the Chinese attempted but failed to cover it up.

China should be made accountable for this pandemic.

[Bluetongue]

Haven't the WHO investigators been to China but prevented from going anywhere, whilst argy bargy goes on about what they will be allowed to do?

[oompie69]

Until such time as a definitive answer is forthcoming, it is highly speculative to say that it did. 

[RichardColeman]

46 minutes ago, oompie69 said:

Until such time as a definitive answer is forthcoming, it is highly speculative to say that it did. 

If anyone thinks the WHO would find against China even if they did know it came from China I think they have been smoking their own medical allowance !

[chilly07]

As China won't allow anyone to investigate Wuflu they clearly know they are responsible!

[Scot123]

Anyone with a brain who has spent 5 minutes looking at The Chinese C19 virus and left with only two question was it man made in the viral lab in China and if so was it released on purpose! There is so much evidence for this and blatant facts like the lab was studying the virus in Bats and there were never any bats sold at the market and patient one would have to get several buses to get to the market and it's been stated he never ever went there.

[Cake Monster]

And the CCP only Yesterday, have placed a Gagging order upon ALL Doctors and their Supporting Staff that were involved in the Early Days of the Covid Outbreak in Wuhan.

These Doctors and Staff have been threatened with Charges of Espionage if they speak about their work, findings, and anything else to do with the Outbreak.

This gagging order speaks volumes. 

 

[Tropicalevo]

7 hours ago, Enzian said:

The WHO intends to send researchers to the Wuhan food market? They haven't had enough time yet?

Has there not been any independent investigation of that location yet? A call for such has been a main reason for the ongoing Chinese bullying of Australia, which has recently been ramped up a notch.

China has not let the investigators near the labs yet. China is still arguing as to who can  investigate and who they can talk to.

China has recently announced that if anyone in Wuhan or even elsewhere in China talks about whath appened in Wuhan in the ealy days of the pandemic, they will be jailed for being spies or being unpatriotic.

Today, China announced that their scientists have 'proof' that it started in India.

Some years ago, 6 'collectors' were collecting bat<deleted>te from caves in the Wuhan area to take the samples back to the labs there. All had breathing difficulties when they arrived home and at least two died.

Edited November 28, 2020 by Tropicalevo

[ivor bigun]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

If anyone thinks the WHO would find against China even if they did know it came from China I think they have been smoking their own medical allowance !

I doubt if they even know where China is ,they seem a dumb bunch

[Cake Monster]

3 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

China has not let the investigators near the labs yet. China is still arguing as to who can  investigate and who they can talk to.

China has recently announced that if anyone in Wuhan or even elsewhere in China talks about whath appened in Wuhan in the ealy days of the pandemic, they will be jailed for being spies or being unpatriotic.

Today, China announced that their scientists have 'proof' that it started in India.

Some years ago, 6 'collectors' were collecting bat<deleted>te from caves in the Wuhan area to take the samples back to the labs there. All had breathing difficulties when they arrived home and at least two died.

The " proof " the Chinese have about Covid 19 starting in India, should, if they are open and honest, be made public for the World to see, and to investigate its authenticity.

I doubt very much that this will be the way in which the CCP wishes to be believed over this. They will continue to play the same Game they always have and remain secretive.

There has been much speculation here on TV, that the Wu-Flu was present in Thailand as early as late October last Year.

For sure, many people were very sick in the Pattaya area with some kind of Virus around that time ( Myself and Wife included ), but due to a lack of testing and any kind of follow up from Health Services, we shall never know if it was the Virus or not.

I just know that we were as sick as Dogs for a Month, carrying symptoms similar to Covid 19, and no amount of Antibiotics would ease the suffering we felt.

[Mavideol]

48 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

Does China tell anybody the truth?

 

      They know more than anybody else, but they will never make that public. 

 

      

China is very similar to N. Korea or vice versa..... what happens there stays there, they are not used to share with anybody and they will not start now  555

[Susco]

We have to admit, Covid - 19 is the first made in China product that has worked that long

Edited November 28, 2020 by Susco

[GroveHillWanderer]

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7 hours ago, Enzian said:

Yesterday I read an interview with an Italian scientist, in Il Giornale, who said we don't at this time know any animals that are able to catch the virus from us, and by "any" I have to assume he's including bats. So if they can't catch it from us, how did we catch it from them? 

Well that's clearly wrong - there have been a number of examples of animals catching the virus from humans, such as domestic cats, tigers and in one of the biggest CoVid-19 stories of recent weeks, mink in Denmark.

 

As an article on the BBC put it:

 

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Covid-19 originally came from a wild animal, it was then transmitted to humans and, later, passed on to farmed mink.

 

 Denmark shaken by cull of millions of mink

[snowgard]

1 hour ago, teacherclaire said:

Does China tell anybody the truth?

 

      They know more than anybody else, but they will never make that public. 

Has TRUMP ever told the truth? Or the USA in general?
That's where most of the biggest lies come from!

[wombat]

No....speculative is me saying covid is a false flag attack by the sharia law cult in retaliation for the treatment of the Uyghur's

[RocketDog]

4 hours ago, oompie69 said:

Until such time as a definitive answer is forthcoming, it is highly speculative to say that it did. 

It will probably never be proven beyond all doubt because the CCP will not allow internal or external  investigations . It's been obvious from the beginning that china has something to hide. 

 

It is not speculation to say that China has been breeding and exporting various viruses for decades now. It's all too believeable that it's done it yet again and will do so repeatedly in the future. China remains a threat to the entire world in more ways than one. 

[rkidlad]

2 hours ago, snowgard said:

Has TRUMP ever told the truth? Or the USA in general?
That's where most of the biggest lies come from!

Right, but what does that have to do with the CCP lying about covid? 
 

Are you saying it’s okay to do bad things cos other people do bad things? 
 

 

[Traubert]

A German virologist  says it came from Northern Italy.

 

Professor Alexander Kerkule. Look him up.

 

Thats 'look' not 'lock' for all you anti-Sinos.

 

[Susco]

2 minutes ago, Traubert said:

A German virologist  says it came from Northern Italy.

 

Professor Alexander Kerkule. Look him up.

 

Thats 'look' not 'lock' for all you anti-Sinos.

 

 

I have seen reports that the virus was detected in waste water in Northern Italy. as early as October 2019 or even earlier, yet the infections in Italy only started many months after the first infections in China

[rkidlad]

5 minutes ago, Traubert said:

A German virologist  says it came from Northern Italy.

 

Professor Alexander Kerkule. Look him up.

 

Thats 'look' not 'lock' for all you anti-Sinos.

 

Well, that’s that, then. 
 

The WHO set up shop in completely the wrong place. What were they thinking? 
 

 

[ChouDoufu]

4 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

And the CCP only Yesterday, have placed a Gagging order upon ALL Doctors and their Supporting Staff that were involved in the Early Days of the Covid Outbreak in Wuhan.

These Doctors and Staff have been threatened with Charges of Espionage if they speak about their work, findings, and anything else to do with the Outbreak.

This gagging order speaks volumes. 

 

 

are you sure this is for real?  it was originally published on kyodonews (anonymous sources), and has only been picked up by a few tinfoil underpants type conspiracy sites.  no real news services have touched it in the past couple days.

[rkidlad]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

are you sure this is for real?  it was originally published on kyodonews (anonymous sources), and has only been picked up by a few tinfoil underpants type conspiracy sites.  no real news services have touched it in the past couple days.

Yes, only those who wear tinfoil hats would ever assume/accuse the CCP of lying about something or covering it up. 
 

Where do people come up with these crazy conspiracy theories? Next thing people will be saying the CCP is committing genocide. 

[ChouDoufu]

4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

China has not let the investigators near the labs yet. China is still arguing as to who can  investigate and who they can talk to.

China has recently announced that if anyone in Wuhan or even elsewhere in China talks about whath appened in Wuhan in the ealy days of the pandemic, they will be jailed for being spies or being unpatriotic.

Today, China announced that their scientists have 'proof' that it started in India.

Some years ago, 6 'collectors' were collecting bat<deleted>te from caves in the Wuhan area to take the samples back to the labs there. All had breathing difficulties when they arrived home and at least two died.

 

holy batsoup!  i believe you've cracked the case!.

 

if this is indeed true, "Some years ago, 6 'collectors' were collecting bat<deleted>te from caves in the Wuhan area to take the samples back to the labs there. All had breathing difficulties when they arrived home and at least two died", then the mystery is solved.

 

i would appreciate a link to the articles exposing this to the world.  thank you in advance.

[ChouDoufu]

4 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, only those who wear tinfoil hats would ever assume/accuse the CCP of lying about something or covering it up. 
 

Where do people come up with these crazy conspiracy theories? Next thing people will be saying the CCP is committing genocide. 

 

i take it you don't particularly care whether the allegation is true as long as it fits your narrative.

 

 

well, okay then.

[rkidlad]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

i take it you don't particularly care whether the allegation is true as long as it fits your narrative.

 

 

well, okay then.

I don’t particularly care for people who go online and actively defend a regime committing, amongst other things, genocide. 
 

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

2 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

I don’t particularly care for people who go online and actively defend a regime committing, amongst other things, genocide. 
 

 

 

 

defend the regime?  where do you get that?  question the allegations, don't blindly accept whatever makes you feel good.

 

be skeptical.  if the "regime" is as despicable as you claim, if they are indeed committing genocide, then surely their opponents would never need to stoop to spreading disinformation to combat them.

 

i should think exposing actual genocide would take precedence over claiming (without evidence) that authorities are threatening citizens.

 

the truth should be enough.

[seajae]

you only have to look at what china is doing to aussie exports to china to see exactly how they operate, do as we say or we will destroy you anyway we can and its all because Australia dared to suggest covid be investigated to see if it originated in china. China does whatever they want and refuse to let the rest of the world hold them accountable, only way to sort them out it to totally block them from selling/trading with any other countries in the world, the ccp is on par with hitler and his ilk

 

Edited November 28, 2020 by seajae

[rkidlad]

3 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

defend the regime?  where do you get that?  question the allegations, don't blindly accept whatever makes you feel good.

 

be skeptical.  if the "regime" is as despicable as you claim, if they are indeed committing genocide, then surely their opponents would never need to stoop to spreading disinformation to combat them.

 

i should think exposing actual genocide would take precedence over claiming (without evidence) that authorities are threatening citizens.

 

the truth should be enough.

Anything to do with the CCP and you’re here defending them. 
 

And now you’re defending genocide. I will truly never understand some people. Truly abhorrent.