no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I see so many kids driving scooter going to school, they are about 14 years old more or less, whit no licence and no insurance,i think we should have a permis for this people, like scooter whit no more 100cc, wearing helmet and have insurance,kits at 14 years old drive scooter very good,so wy not,that be better i think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, no deal said: I see so many kids driving scooter going to school, they are about 14 years old more or less, whit no licence and no insurance Kids on scoots/ waves is an age old comment made by foreigners. The scooter is insured if the scoot has a road disc. Private voluntary insurance is not usually bothered with by Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, no deal said: I see so many kids driving scooter going to school, they are about 14 years old more or less, whit no licence and no insurance,i think we should have a permis for this people, like scooter whit no more 100cc, wearing helmet and have insurance,kits at 14 years old drive scooter very good,so wy not,that be better i think Do you realise the age for a bike license is 15, many of the kids you presume are 14 may well be 15 and completely legal. There is a basic 3rd party person insurance built into the yearly fee for motorbikes. Yes, some are younger and not legal but in some rural/remote areas, its how a big part of the population get themselves and siblings to school. Most of the kids get to and from school safely, and have done for years, its just being practical. Not sure that a permit would make the trip any safer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Total lack of responsibility on the part of Ma and Por! The majority of road fatalities are mocy riders! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wongkitlo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 My wife tells me riding scooters is part of Thailand's culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC 71 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 58 minutes ago, no deal said: I see so many kids driving scooter going to school, they are about 14 years old more or less, whit no licence and no insurance,i think we should have a permis for this people, like scooter whit no more 100cc, wearing helmet and have insurance,kits at 14 years old drive scooter very good,so wy not,that be better i think I agree , It's just not on. Young tearaways.They are ruining peoples lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike787 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It does NOT matter...nobody cares. Thais will do as they please. Good luck changing them, or anyone. That kind of power is reserved for gods not mortals like us....but good luck mate! If there is more safety on the road, only makes it a better place for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, no deal said: we should have a permis for this people, like scooter whit no more 100cc I believe the system is no more than 110cc. Hence the proliferation of 110cc Hondas et al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) I think having scooter as a mode of transport (only option for many, no bus etc.) and part of culture and all that is fair enough... But then the government and parents should also take responsibility for safety and teaching the kids riding properly, respecting rules and taking care of other road users and so on. It's not hard really, Thais are so glued to social media and TV, why not have more road use safety and learning campaign... (instead of so much other rubbish / propaganda they put out...!). In US teenagers (14/15) can choose driving as part of their school curriculum to prepare to get their license, why don't they have somehing like that for scooters here...., not that difficult to implement...! I came up with my own stats - see if you agree..., if Thais just followed the road rules and take care by 20% more, the road accidents will be reduced by 80%...!? It's really easy and possible to do, some of the things/mistakes they do is just mind boggling in this day and age...???? Edited December 14, 2020 by Agusts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 You could no more stop youngsters from riding motorcycles here than you could stop a nomadic Mongolian's son from riding a horse. (which is probably more dangerous) As @Wongkitlo said above, it's become part of the culture here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wongkitlo Posted December 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Moonlover said: You could no more stop youngsters from riding motorcycles here than you could stop a nomadic Mongolian's son from riding a horse. (which is probably more dangerous) As @Wongkitlo said above, it's become part of the culture here. I know what you are saying. She was serious. I wasn't. I asked her how her parents went to work. She said " they walked". It has sadly become culture. I remember when I first came her family tried hard to stop me walking because of the dogs. It is sad that a whole country of children are getting overweight and can't walk because of wild dogs and bad footpaths. Their solution isn't to register and desex the dogs and fix the sidewalks of course. It is to give their kids motorbikes. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wongkitlo Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Peterw42 said: Most of the kids get to and from school safely, and have done for years, its just being practical The rest ride up the street with 3 kids on board, on one wheel, doing 80 kms. Edited December 14, 2020 by Wongkitlo Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, no deal said: I see so many kids driving scooter going to school, they are about 14 years old more or less, whit no licence and no insurance,i think we should have a permis for this people, like scooter whit no more 100cc, wearing helmet and have insurance,kits at 14 years old drive scooter very good,so wy not,that be better i think Whatever rules you wish Thailand would have: Thailand doesn't have a proper police, so rules aren't enforced and nobody cares. Thais usually don't think "if i do this, then what will be the consequences?", thus they never think about having an accident and how to protect themselves from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Peterw42 said: Do you realise the age for a bike license is 15, many of the kids you presume are 14 may well be 15 and completely legal. There is a basic 3rd party person insurance built into the yearly fee for motorbikes. Yes, some are younger and not legal but in some rural/remote areas, its how a big part of the population get themselves and siblings to school. Most of the kids get to and from school safely, and have done for years, its just being practical. Not sure that a permit would make the trip any safer you said the legal age is 15 years old for a kids to get a licence to drive a scooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kekalot Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 after seeing the motorbike driving license process/test, I would reckon that it doesn't make a difference if they have the license or not. driving on the highways without a helmet is illegal, so is driving without a license. a young lady cut me off with her scooter once, and took me and my girlfriend off my big bike.. she was on the highway, no helmet, no license, no insurance, didn't use signal light before turning, did not look in mirror or behind and she was absolutely 100% at fault just her having no license or helmet should put her at fault, because she shouldn't have been there in the first place for like 15 other reasons blame fell on me because she was a poor girl, they took my bike away made me sign a paper saying it was my fault (in Thai) i had to pay to fix her bike, give her money cause she got knocked out (no helmet) and fix mine. did she learn anything? no, but I did. if you ask me, they should enforce the license and helmet with penalties that go up 1st warning, written up. fine 100 baht fine 250 baht fine 500 baht fine 1000 baht and keep going. cannot pay? take the bike away .. not paid within 1 or 2 months? sell the bike at auctions for dirt cheap and give them the change after fees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatiumus Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, no deal said: you said the legal age is 15 years old for a kids to get a licence to drive a scooter? It is, up to 110cc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, kekalot said: after seeing the motorbike driving license process/test, I would reckon that it doesn't make a difference if they have the license or not. driving on the highways without a helmet is illegal, so is driving without a license. a young lady cut me off with her scooter once, and took me and my girlfriend off my big bike.. she was on the highway, no helmet, no license, no insurance, didn't use signal light before turning, did not look in mirror or behind and she was absolutely 100% at fault just her having no license or helmet should put her at fault, because she shouldn't have been there in the first place for like 15 other reasons blame fell on me because she was a poor girl, they took my bike away made me sign a paper saying it was my fault (in Thai) i had to pay to fix her bike, give her money cause she got knocked out (no helmet) and fix mine. did she learn anything? no, but I did. if you ask me, they should enforce the license and helmet with penalties that go up 1st warning, written up. fine 100 baht fine 250 baht fine 500 baht fine 1000 baht and keep going. cannot pay? take the bike away .. not paid within 1 or 2 months? sell the bike at auctions for dirt cheap and give them the change after fees i have a full coverage whit my insurance and in case of a accident i call the insurance company who send a investigator, he the one who said who is at fault,if i am in my right there is no way i sign a piece of paper like you and paye for her repair because she poor! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Peterw42 said: Do you realise the age for a bike license is 15, many of the kids you presume are 14 may well be 15 and completely legal. There is a basic 3rd party person insurance built into the yearly fee for motorbikes. Yes, some are younger and not legal but in some rural/remote areas, its how a big part of the population get themselves and siblings to school. Most of the kids get to and from school safely, and have done for years, its just being practical. Not sure that a permit would make the trip any safer you right i do some research, 15 years is the legal age, good news, the son of my wife is going to be 15 in two mont.and i am going to send him to driving school,i know what some people think about driving school but if you drive whit out a permit the assurance company don't want covert any thing,and that is a big problem! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 43 minutes ago, Spatiumus said: It is, up to 110cc. very good news my thai wife told me 18 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, no deal said: you right i do some research, 15 years is the legal age, good news, the son of my wife is going to be 15 in two mont.and i am going to send him to driving school,i know what some people think about driving school but if you drive whit out a permit the assurance company don't want covert any thing,and that is a big problem! two month sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, no deal said: you right i do some research, 15 years is the legal age, good news, the son of my wife is going to be 15 in two mont.and i am going to send him to driving school,i know what some people think about driving school but if you drive whit out a permit the assurance company don't want covert any thing,and that is a big problem! and two people on the scooter only, and helmet, or racing, or i take the scooter, no need the police for that! i will check... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Kids on scoots/ waves is an age old comment made by foreigners. The scooter is insured if the scoot has a road disc. Private voluntary insurance is not usually bothered with by Thais. And that insurance is virtually useless, lets say Somchai kidboy hits your car, 1 he has no cover with the govt insurance for damage to your vehicle,2 he has such a paltry minimum amount for injury to you its worthless, the whole compulsory insurance thing is a very sick joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, no deal said: you said the legal age is 15 years old for a kids to get a licence to drive a scooter? Yes, thats correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, gunderhill said: And that insurance is virtually useless, lets say Somchai kidboy hits your car, 1 he has no cover with the govt insurance for damage to your vehicle,2 he has such a paltry minimum amount for injury to you its worthless, the whole compulsory insurance thing is a very sick joke. maybe but is going to be all legal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I always thought you Ride a scooter, not Drive a scooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ChipButty said: I always thought you Ride a scooter, not Drive a scooter my thai wife drive are car, i dont drive any more, to much accident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) If there is any licensing, enforcement and training to be done, it should be for car/pick-up drivers. Scooters dont often have fatal stand alone accidents, hit things or run off the road etc. Scooters get hit by cars/pick-ups. Its not the 15 year old kids ,going to and from school doing 40kph, causing or having fatal/serious accidents, most of the time its somchai in a pick-up running into them. Edited December 14, 2020 by Peterw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, ChipButty said: I always thought you Ride a scooter, not Drive a scooter i ride my horse ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no deal Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, no deal said: i ride my horse ! my thai licence show DRIVING LICENCE for car et scooter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 6 hours ago, PatOngo said: Total lack of responsibility on the part of Ma and Por! The majority of road fatalities are mocy riders! And the majority of that majority are pi..ed up adults! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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