'Sick man of Europe': UK cut off over fears about new COVID strain

[stevenl]

50 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Why are you blaming the government for this?

 

Why not blame the organisers and/or local government officials whose responsibility it is?

If it is allowed, government has not regulated properly. If not allowed, the organisers are to blame.

 

But many people inside for an event like that is not a good idea. Also the participants are now staying in a bubble, earlier they were travelling home in between matches. Crazy.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

At present more than 1,500 trucks backed up...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/covid-uk-may-test-all-lorry-drivers-to-try-to-break-port-gridlock?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

“The British home secretary, Priti Patel, said the government was talking to the French authorities about testing all hauliers leaving Britain, as she confirmed more than 1,500 lorries were stuck in Kent on Tuesday morning.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375487/Macron-France-border-blockade-lorries-stuck-in-Kent-Eurotunnel-Dover-latest-update  Macron refuse opening border

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, david555 said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1375487/Macron-France-border-blockade-lorries-stuck-in-Kent-Eurotunnel-Dover-latest-update  Macron refuse opening border

I think tomorrow lorries will start moving again. Both countries need the goods.

[david555]

17 hours ago, stevenl said:

I think tomorrow lorries will start moving again. Both countries need the goods.

 

 

Yes  .... but peoples ... they need to stay safe too  , goods can be replaced  and i think nobody go die because those goods  can not be available for few days .

 

Meds can be brought by air 

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[puipuitom]

22 hours ago, ukrules said:

Indeed, this has almost certainly been spreading around the entire world for months.

 

It was previously found in both the Netherlands and Denmark, now they also noticed it in the UK.

 

It's already everywhere.

Yes, found 1 ( one ) in NL. And 1 in any street in SW - UK

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Macron refuses to lift blockade: Eurotunnel to bring 2000 lorries to UK but take NONE out | UK | News | Express.co.uk

 

Macron refuses to lift blockade: Eurotunnel to bring 2000 lorries to UK but take NONE out

MORE chaos is expected to hit the British border today as lorries head into the UK with border restrictions still in place - and Emmanuel Macron refusing to lift the blockade.

By DARREN HUNT

PUBLISHED: 09:47, Tue, Dec 22, 2020 | UPDATED: 10:23, Tue, Dec 22, 2020

Also all ferries are stopped, to Belgium, Netherlands. Has nothing to do with Macron.

[CorpusChristie]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yep. Clearly our 'friends and partners' in the EU are trying to heap pressure on the UK to cave on their demands.

 

Ironically it might misfire, since if they're going to block everything anyway due to Covid then No Deal will be merely a pimple on the arze of the chaos.

 

  Didnt think of that , the French could be using the blockade to put pressure on the UK to come to an agreement with them . 

[david555]

Just now, puipuitom said:

Also all ferries are stopped, to Belgium, Netherlands. Has nothing to do with Macron.

i only referred to him as it goes about the lorry's , besides he has the same rights to take control of France borders to keep France safe as possible against the big U.K. outbreak of  new strain  virus .

[david555]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Didnt think of that , the French could be using the blockade to put pressure on the UK to come to an agreement with them . 

here you goooo .... ????

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Solution could be  only ship the lorry containers only   keep the UK drivers in U.K ,  same way from France doing so keeping E.U. drivers in E.U.  

Mean time repatriate the E.U. ones from U.K.  put them in Quarantine or severe testing in E.U.  

same in reverse for the U.K drivers to U.K. 

Both sides keeping their own on own grounds 

That's not so easy done. All has to be loaded by hand + fork lift truck into containers, Container lines need to go to the very deep ports. Second: no container vessels available, therefore seafreigth from Asia went frok a US$ 750 to now US% 3500 per 20 ft. Third: as destination, all has to go the other way round. 

[david555]

Just now, puipuitom said:

That's not so easy done. All has to be loaded by hand + fork lift truck into containers, Container lines need to go to the very deep ports. Second: no container vessels available, therefore seafreigth from Asia went frok a US$ 750 to now US% 3500 per 20 ft. Third: as destination, all has to go the other way round. 

i thought those lorrys have detachable container on wheels  , so reasonable easy to do 

[CorpusChristie]

 

  The new highly contagious virus has been found in Holland and Denmark .

The new virus is already on your side on the Channel 

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[david555]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  The new highly contagious virus has been found in Holland and Denmark .

The new virus is already on your side on the Channel 

but we don"t want your oversupplying it 

so in a few weeks can see if all is manageable to open ....????????

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, david555 said:

but we don"t want your oversupplying it 

so in a few weeks can see if all is manageable to open ....????????

 

  Yeah , its nothing, it will all blow over , its all under control...........it will be gone soon .

Where have I heard that before ?

[david555]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yeah , its nothing, it will all blow over , its all under control...........it will be gone soon .

Where have I heard that before ?

from the blond guy with the strange hair  maybe ...?????

[herfiehandbag]

23 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Didnt think of that , the French could be using the blockade to put pressure on the UK to come to an agreement with them . 

Now look here, I say, I mean come on chaps, the French would never dream of doing something like that!

[david555]

4 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Now look here, I say, I mean come on chaps, the French would never dream of doing something like that!

No , even not threatening with French navy armed ships ...... like others would ...????

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[CorpusChristie]

On 12/21/2020 at 6:26 PM, Surelynot said:

.....and things had been going so well.......

 

  Just been reading an update from the lorry drivers .

Most of them are E.U Nationals trying to return home for Christmas , after making their deliveries in the UK .

The UK supermarkets are full , just some poor French lorry drivers going to have to spend Christmas in their lorry cabins in Dover , whilst collecting parking tickets for illegal parking 

[david555]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Just been reading an update from the lorry drivers .

Most of them are E.U Nationals trying to return home for Christmas , after making their deliveries in the UK .

The UK supermarkets are full , just some poor French lorry drivers going to have to spend Christmas in their lorry cabins in Dover , whilst collecting parking tickets for illegal parking 

yeah that last thing is really scandalous , let them pay for wrong parking ...., they could leave the lorry's behind of course ....probably only U.K. stuff .

 Maybe some navy ship can drop them E.U. ????  

Edited December 22, 2020 by david555

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

Yes, found 1 ( one ) in NL. And 1 in any street in SW - UK

They haven't found it because they do 100 times less genomic testing than we do in the UK.

 

That's why it was found in the UK....it is everywhere, they will reliase this when they get off their <deleted> and do the sequencing required to confirm it.

[dunroaming]

1 hour ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Just been reading an update from the lorry drivers .

Most of them are E.U Nationals trying to return home for Christmas , after making their deliveries in the UK .

The UK supermarkets are full , just some poor French lorry drivers going to have to spend Christmas in their lorry cabins in Dover , whilst collecting parking tickets for illegal parking 

Not just the French drivers trying to get home.  If you check the registration plates they are from many different countries in mainland Europe.  At the moment over 1,700 lorries waiting in Kent.  Yesterday at the live press conference Boris said there were about 150 lorries.  Immediately afterwards a live broadcast showed hundreds and hundreds of them all stationary.  Why does he continue to treat the public like idiots that would actually believe all his horse manure.

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Not just the French drivers trying to get home.  If you check the registration plates they are from many different countries in mainland Europe.  At the moment over 1,700 lorries waiting in Kent.  Yesterday at the live press conference Boris said there were about 150 lorries.  Immediately afterwards a live broadcast showed hundreds and hundreds of them all stationary.  Why does he continue to treat the public like idiots that would actually believe all his horse manure.

 

  Boris was talking about the lorrys parked on the M20 , rather then the total amount of lorrys waiting in Kent .

New lorrys were arriving throughout the day to add to the number , so maybe he just had old information ?

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

That's not so easy done. All has to be loaded by hand + fork lift truck into containers, Container lines need to go to the very deep ports. Second: no container vessels available, therefore seafreigth from Asia went frok a US$ 750 to now US% 3500 per 20 ft. Third: as destination, all has to go the other way round. 

Many companies already do this as SOP: load the trailer on, and go back. At the other end another driver picks up.

[robblok]

2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  The new highly contagious virus has been found in Holland and Denmark .

The new virus is already on your side on the Channel 

2 cases in the Netherlands nothing compared with the countless ones in the UK.  But I hear there are more in other countries that might have it. So it might be too late.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Not just the French drivers trying to get home.  If you check the registration plates they are from many different countries in mainland Europe.  At the moment over 1,700 lorries waiting in Kent.  Yesterday at the live press conference Boris said there were about 150 lorries.  Immediately afterwards a live broadcast showed hundreds and hundreds of them all stationary.  Why does he continue to treat the public like idiots that would actually believe all his horse manure.

Boris, like most of the political leaders relies on advice and information given to him by aides, ministers etc. He didn't personally go to Kent and see for himself but relied on information given to him. It depends on who gave him that information and at what time, so if it was wrong the person giving the information was wrong and not Boris.

 

OTOH it is easy to pick on Boris as he is the person you see.

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Boris was talking about the lorrys parked on the M20 , rather then the total amount of lorrys waiting in Kent .

New lorrys were arriving throughout the day to add to the number , so maybe he just had old information ?

Yeah right, that’s why he gave out a smaller number  of lorries, complete coincidence that it suited his spin eh...lmao

Edited December 22, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Surelynot]

6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Just been reading an update from the lorry drivers .

Most of them are E.U Nationals trying to return home for Christmas , after making their deliveries in the UK .

The UK supermarkets are full , just some poor French lorry drivers going to have to spend Christmas in their lorry cabins in Dover , whilst collecting parking tickets for illegal parking 

Yes...read Macron under some pressure as 300,000 French nationals in the UK wanting to return back to France for Xmas.

[Surelynot]

6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Just been reading an update from the lorry drivers .

Most of them are E.U Nationals trying to return home for Christmas , after making their deliveries in the UK .

The UK supermarkets are full , just some poor French lorry drivers going to have to spend Christmas in their lorry cabins in Dover , whilst collecting parking tickets for illegal parking 

Yes...seen those reports...rather questions the idea that Macron is trying to pressure the UK into submission.

[ukrules]

17 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Yes...seen those reports...rather questions the idea that Macron is trying to pressure the UK into submission.

 

They've agreed to open it back up from midnight so I doubt it. Coercion will not work.

[stevenl]

14 hours ago, oompie69 said:

Judging from the crowds at the Darts Championship I am currently watching, there is no such thing as a pandemic going on right now. Are they all living in an alternate universe?  How was that ever allowed given that football teams are having to play to empty stadiums. There is no logic in the whole management of this in the UK. And only the government is to blame for allowing this. No wonder the statistics are so grim there. 

No public at the darts.