Popular Post snoop1130 Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 The Peaks Residences condo project ordered to be demolished By The Phuket News MP Sira Jenjaka delivered the order in person in Phuket today (Dec 21). Photo: PR Phuket PHUKET:-- MP Sira Jenjaka in Phuket in person today (Dec 21) delivered the order from the Supreme Administrative Court for The Peaks Residences condo project in Kata to be demolished as it is illegally occupying state land. The Peaks owners have 30 days to comply, starting for the date of the court’s ruling, which was handed down last Thursday (Dec 17). The Supreme Administrative Court last week ruled that the NorSor 3 Kor land document presented by The Peaks owners had been issued illegally. Full Story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/the-peaks-residences-condo-project-ordered-to-be-demolished-78398.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2020-12-21 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fangless Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 This story of the peak being demolished has never peaked. Any bets on when (if) it will ever be demolished? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The Supreme Administrative Court last week ruled that the NorSor 3 Kor land document presented by The Peaks owners had been issued illegally. Ouch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The Supreme Administrative Court last week ruled that the NorSor 3 Kor land document presented by The Peaks owners had been issued illegally. No mention of any government official illegally issuing it though. 'twas ever thus. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 I wonder how many corrupt officials had to be involved, between surveys, land transfer, building permits, inspectors, and a myriad of other officials that had to sign off at various points. Cases like this lead me to believe that Thailand's ban on foreign land ownership are actually pretty humane. If the well connected locals get duped, what chance does a foreigner have? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alianware Posted December 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2020 Stupid Thailand corrupt gov. How can it be illegal after building 100% finished and not single official have stopped the project before starting to build. And they <deleted> off all foreigner who has invest their money for the project. Is this the protection from the goverment towards investor ??? And they still advertise properties for foreigners to be sold !! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patts Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) These cons happen all too often with unwary tourists/investors losing all their money while the corrupt officials and land developers walk away with pocket fulls of cash, similar story to The Waterfront Suites and Residences in Pattaya. I see the website is still live: https://www.thepeaksresidence.com Edited December 21, 2020 by Patts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Ouch, but will take years to be effectuated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted December 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) From the article: MP Sira explained that the construction permit for the project had also been found unlawful, but Karon Municipality had allowed construction by Kata Beach Co Ltd to proceed. “The Building Control Act does not give authority to local administrative officers to allow such action. The officers’ wrongdoing can be considered illegal according to Criminal Code Section 157 as their wrongful exercise of duties,” MP Sira also delivered a request for Karon Mayor Tawee Thongcham to abide by the court order to have all construction for The Peaks project demolished as soon as possible. Mayor Tawee was not present. Instead, lawyer Kajorn Huabcharoen received the request on Mayor Tawee’s behalf. They (Kata Beach Co Ltd) gave B3 million as collateral for the permit Reading between the lines I assume the mayor has received 3 million baht to allow construction and is now hiding at his Mom's house. (Disclaimer: this is an assumption and not fact, it is in no way meant to tarnish Thai officialdom and their sacred traditional way of conducting business. No mayors were harmed by the writing of this assumption. Yet.) Edited December 22, 2020 by klauskunkel 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Peaks Residences condo project ordered to be demolished By The Phuket News MP Sira Jenjaka delivered the order in person in Phuket today (Dec 21). Photo: PR Phuket PHUKET:-- MP Sira Jenjaka in Phuket in person today (Dec 21) delivered the order from the Supreme Administrative Court for The Peaks Residences condo project in Kata to be demolished as it is illegally occupying state land. The Peaks owners have 30 days to comply, starting for the date of the court’s ruling, which was handed down last Thursday (Dec 17). The Supreme Administrative Court last week ruled that the NorSor 3 Kor land document presented by The Peaks owners had been issued illegally. Full Story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/the-peaks-residences-condo-project-ordered-to-be-demolished-78398.php -- © Copyright Phuket News 2020-12-21 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Good promotion to sell the massive inventory of unsold condos along with visa etc could not have been better timed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, alianware said: Stupid Thailand corrupt gov. How can it be illegal after building 100% finished and not single official have stopped the project before starting to build. And they <deleted> off all foreigner who has invest their money for the project. Is this the protection from the goverment towards investor ??? And they still advertise properties for foreigners to be sold !! So buyers lose their investment. may be the developer also lost some money and face whats the fate of officials who approved construction? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sametboy2019 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Demolished is probably the right term as it will knocked down to rubble and just left there being a complete eye sore until the jungle reclaims it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 hours ago, mjakob007 said: So buyers lose their investment. may be the developer also lost some money and face whats the fate of officials who approved construction? Anybody who bought into this did not do due diligence. It was clear from the onset that this project is illegal as can be. And with projects here being declared illegal even years after construction, it is really not a very wise decision to invest/own there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenkins9039 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Hardly duped, I was offered this land back in 2012, It was then this land title it has now, and was offered at a rate of 15,000,000 THB. The company behind the peaks have done very well out of it, knowingly i'd hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1a2a Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, stevenl said: it is really not a very wise decision to invest/own there. ... They will be pushing hard for motivated buyers with the new visa offer. Purchasing from the current glut of units would be safer than signing up for any new projects under development . Definitely a sucker bet when the money is only down payment on a promise. This , from another thread.... https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1197799-dozens-of-developers-to-join-visa-for-property-scheme-tpc/ Dozens of developers to join visa-for-property scheme: TPC 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Thirty real estate developers will offer foreign buyers five-year visas in exchange for investing at least Bt10 million in property, under the “Elite Flexible One” card scheme launched on January 1 next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Seth1a2a said: ... They will be pushing hard for motivated buyers with the new visa offer. Purchasing from the current glut of units would be safer than signing up for any new projects under development . Definitely a sucker bet when the money is only down payment on a promise. This , from another thread.... https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1197799-dozens-of-developers-to-join-visa-for-property-scheme-tpc/ Dozens of developers to join visa-for-property scheme: TPC Are you talking about this The Peaks project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Somebody lined the wrong pockets, me thinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth1a2a Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 9:55 PM, stevenl said: And with projects here being declared illegal even years after construction, it is really not a very wise decision to invest/own there. On 12/21/2020 at 9:55 PM, stevenl said: Are you talking about this The Peaks project? Responding to the last few lines of your first post about overall investments being risky....Currently, new investors are being lined up in other projects without considering the possibility that something like "this Peaks project" could happen to them. The elite visa offer might also motivate other investors/victims who would not normally to take the risk or be wise enough to do due diligence when signing up for any new projects under development . A Thai friend of mine invested in a project that was never completed. He not only lost his investment but also a large amount of money paid towards legal actions filed to retrieve his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrDave Posted December 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2020 In reality, it can be extremely difficult if not impossible to carry out an effective due diligence in Phuket due to the rampant corruption present in the government agencies. It can be equally difficult to find an honest lawyer to assist in the effort as it's not uncommon for Thai lawyers to "work both sides of the street". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLock Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 10:35 PM, DrDave said: In reality, it can be extremely difficult if not impossible to carry out an effective due diligence in Phuket due to the rampant corruption present in the government agencies. It can be equally difficult to find an honest lawyer to assist in the effort as it's not uncommon for Thai lawyers to "work both sides of the street". And Lawyer language for land title due diligence will be written in such a way that if things do go bad, the Lawyers cannot be held responsible. "...to the best of our knowledge..." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 This happens alot. On Dark Tao thousands of fake chanote deeds have been issued on land leased from the *****. For decades now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 is he wearing his Y fronts on his face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy from Kent Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 If the Thai government was ever serious about the demolition of any building they would simply request a bid from contractors who do such work and then offer the contract to the contractor who fills a brown envelop the most. They like bulging brown envelopes best. The Army can accompany the demolition contractors if necessary. Simple.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) On 12/21/2020 at 9:04 PM, snoop1130 said: MP Sira Jenjaka in Phuket in person today (Dec 21) delivered the order from the Supreme Administrative Court for The Peaks Residences condo project in Kata to be demolished as it is illegally occupying state land. In Bangkok, there was a similar ruling by the SAC to demolish at least part (the upper floors) of a ritzy hotel/condo called Aetas Hotel and Residence that was issued back in 2014. The building was ruled to have been built overheight for what should have been allowed on a relatively narrow street. The original litigation in the case dated back to 2008 AFAIK, the order still hasn't been carried out some 6+ years later after the final court ruling, and 12+ years since the case began. https://www.nationthailand.com/breakingnews/30296590 Translation being -- this is Thailand. Don't hold your breath. Edited December 27, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 9:18 PM, timendres said: The Supreme Administrative Court last week ruled that the NorSor 3 Kor land document presented by The Peaks owners had been issued illegally. "Issued illegally" and who issues these documents I wonder? Officials at the land offices need to be investigated, because there have been rumours circulating for a long time about land documents being issued in Phuket (in general) when they shouldn't have been – – get my drift? There have probably been quite a few folk been made very wealthy by this sort of practice. And will the building be demolished.....well, TIT, so don't hold your breath. As an aside, but related, I have been liaising with another poster on TV who appears to have been duped out of his house by what would seem to be "unusual practices" and he's having a hard time coming to terms with this, and no amount of suggesting that "this is Thailand" and just about anything goes, can help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 A bit off-topic, but did the demolition of several buildings at Paradise Beach ordered a few years ago ever occur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/22/2020 at 3:02 PM, Jenkins9039 said: Hardly duped, I was offered this land back in 2012, It was then this land title it has now, and was offered at a rate of 15,000,000 THB. The company behind the peaks have done very well out of it, knowingly i'd hazard. only 15.000.000 baht? that's way too cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 hours ago, DLock said: And Lawyer language for land title due diligence will be written in such a way that if things do go bad, the Lawyers cannot be held responsible. "...to the best of our knowledge..." quite correct. maybe it could be possible to challenge the land title in court, and if the court confirms it, it's legit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, tgw said: only 15.000.000 baht? that's way too cheap For useless farmland it seems already pricey anyway after the title-deed status was “adjusted” surely the sale price of that landplot really exploded.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDave Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, tgw said: only 15.000.000 baht? that's way too cheap Not really. About 15 years ago, buildable, seaview land in Patong was selling for around 4 million baht per rai. Now, that same 4 million will buy 500 square meters of land on a dirt road behind a gas station. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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