Engine clean for my pickup.

[soi3eddie]

36 minutes ago, millymoopoo said:

these days the waterproofing of the ECU and other associated electronics is so good you could probably drive them underwater (with snorkel) without any problem.
I've never had a problem pressure washing a modern engine.!

 

I once saw an Isuzu pickup truck driving through floodwater with the headlights completly immersed. It was surprising that it still ran - and yes, they did get through to dry ground.

 

[StevieAus]

On 1/3/2021 at 12:07 AM, l4ml4m said:

5555555555555555 the joke of the day !!! thank you !!!

it's famous that they know what they are doing here ! You know very well !!

 

 

 

Plenty of qualified people here in many fields who know what they are doing I never have a problem, but then there are some people who have difficulty in making the correct decision because they don’t ask the right questions, perhaps you are one of them?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

Plenty of qualified people here in many fields who know what they are doing I never have a problem, but then there are some people who have difficulty in making the correct decision because they don’t ask the right questions, perhaps you are one of them?

You speak perfect Thai then, or search out establishments that speak your lingo. To explain something technical uses up a lot of words even in English, in Thai, near impossible.....????

[The Theory]

On 1/2/2021 at 9:52 AM, giddyup said:

mainly dust I would say

If it's dusty only, high pressure water at car wash will work. 

Edited January 6, 2021 by The Theory

[Russell17au]

2 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

 

I once saw an Isuzu pickup truck driving through floodwater with the headlights completly immersed. It was surprising that it still ran - and yes, they did get through to dry ground.

 

Isuzu is a diesel motor and will go through deeper water than a petrol motor because a diesel does not have the electrics (distributor, coil, spark plugs and high tension leads) that a petrol motor has

[soi3eddie]

49 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Isuzu is a diesel motor and will go through deeper water than a petrol motor because a diesel does not have the electrics (distributor, coil, spark plugs and high tension leads) that a petrol motor has

 

Thanks. Yes I'm aware of that. I don't think I've ever seen a pickup truck here in Thailand (last 20 years at least) that isn't diesel. My 2005 Hilux Vigo 4wd auto was 3 litre turbo diesel. Built like a tank and a great truck. BIL's Isuzu truck was good too and he used it in his construction business. As far as I know, the OP's Mitsubishi Triton is a diesel truck. 

[PFMills]

45 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

 

Thanks. Yes I'm aware of that. I don't think I've ever seen a pickup truck here in Thailand (last 20 years at least) that isn't diesel. My 2005 Hilux Vigo 4wd auto was 3 litre turbo diesel. Built like a tank and a great truck. BIL's Isuzu truck was good too and he used it in his construction business. As far as I know, the OP's Mitsubishi Triton is a diesel truck. 

A friend of my wife’s has a gasoline pickup, Toyota if I remember correctly and not all that old.

 

She said bought gasoline one so could convert to LPG. Guess thought running costs would be less.

 

Yes, OP’s vehicle is diesel.

[canthai55]

12 minutes ago, PFMills said:

She said bought gasoline one so could convert to LPG. Guess thought running costs would be less.

She was right - our town car cost per km is half what it is on 95

[KhaoYai]

A lot of people here saying its fine, never had a problem etc.etc. They were lucky.

 

I spent most of my working life in the motor trade and I can tell you that you need to be extremely careful using any form of spay cleaner on your engine.

 

The electrics on modern cars are extremely complex - mini computers control almost every aspect of your vehicle's functions.  There are engine control modules, body control modules, receivers, transmitters - just about everything is done electronically.  I've personally seen quite a few cars damaged by cleaning and sometimes its not immediate.  Many of the above units are sealed - in as much as they cannot be opened but that does not mean they are waterproof.  Water ingress can corrode terminals inside a unit and it could take months for the problem to become apparent.  Sealed control units are just about impossible to repair - in the UK we have a few specialists that can carry out some repairs - no idea about Thailand.

 

Nobody sees your engine - with ECU's (Engine Control Module) running anywhere between 40,000 and 200,000 baht, is it worth it for something that is purely cosmetic?

 

If you must clean it - locate each of the electronic items and cover them with a plastic bag - secured in place.  When its done, use an airline to blow all water off before you go anywhere near the ignition key.

[KhaoYai]

2 hours ago, Russell17au said:

Isuzu is a diesel motor and will go through deeper water than a petrol motor because a diesel does not have the electrics (distributor, coil, spark plugs and high tension leads) that a petrol motor has

You're a little behind the times. Most, if not all modern petrol engines don't have a distributor, coil or HT leads anymore.  These have been replaced by a crank sensor and coil packs.

 

Modern diesels have electronic injectors and lots of sensors, regulators etc. so there's just as much (if not more) to damage as there is on a petrol.

Edited January 6, 2021 by KhaoYai

[PFMills]

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

She was right - our town car cost per km is half what it is on 95

Yes.  But she was comparing a ‘gassed’ gasoline engine against a similar sized diesel engine.

 

One of our gasoline engined cars is now LPG, of course the fuel costs are less.But what is your opinion on ‘her’ running costs.

[canthai55]

I have no idea of her running costs - just know mine

[DaLa]

5 hours ago, transam said:

You speak perfect Thai then, or search out establishments that speak your lingo. To explain something technical uses up a lot of words even in English, in Thai, near impossible.....????

Too true. Noticed over the last 2 weeks our Fortuna was struggling to turn over on ignition. Then instead of stopping and fuel saving at the lights (or in traffic) it would show 'Battery Charging'.  Just returned this minute from Toyota main dealer and no matter how much detail I went into I could not get them to accept there was a problem.

 

Came away with a wash and interior clean for 800 baht and guess I'll just have to wait until it completely dies before I can get them to understand my useless Thai language skills.

[KhaoYai]

7 hours ago, Stevemercer said:

I took my 400 cc motorbike to one of the local cleaning places and it looked brand new after the finished with it. It only cost 70 Baht. Unfortunately the tachometer and various dial lights no longer worked after their vigorous pressure cleaning.

Case in point - see my previous posts.

[talahtnut]

 

I use 'ere indoors' feather duster to clean my 2cv engine every morning.

[l4ml4m]

16 hours ago, StevieAus said:

Plenty of qualified people here in many fields who know what they are doing I never have a problem, but then there are some people who have difficulty in making the correct decision because they don’t ask the right questions, perhaps you are one of them?

 

I do not have any problem but I guess that by having over hundred supposedly highly qualified staff over the years I clearly know better than you that competence is not what you find the most here.

 

 

[l4ml4m]

11 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

A lot of people here saying its fine, never had a problem etc.etc. They were lucky.

 

I spent most of my working life in the motor trade and I can tell you that you need to be extremely careful using any form of spay cleaner on your engine.

 

The electrics on modern cars are extremely complex - mini computers control almost every aspect of your vehicle's functions.  There are engine control modules, body control modules, receivers, transmitters - just about everything is done electronically.  I've personally seen quite a few cars damaged by cleaning and sometimes its not immediate.  Many of the above units are sealed - in as much as they cannot be opened but that does not mean they are waterproof.  Water ingress can corrode terminals inside a unit and it could take months for the problem to become apparent.  Sealed control units are just about impossible to repair - in the UK we have a few specialists that can carry out some repairs - no idea about Thailand.

 

Nobody sees your engine - with ECU's (Engine Control Module) running anywhere between 40,000 and 200,000 baht, is it worth it for something that is purely cosmetic?

 

If you must clean it - locate each of the electronic items and cover them with a plastic bag - secured in place.  When its done, use an airline to blow all water off before you go anywhere near the ignition key.

 

 

NOBODY will do this to clean an engine, reason why it's so stupid to clean it.

I really wonder why most people like to die as stupid as they are born !?

 

 

[KhaoYai]

OP, I haven't looked under the bonnet of a Triton but on most cars now, you can't see much of the engine.  I'm sure your engine bay will look much better if you simply wipe over the plastic covers.

[StevieAus]

On 1/6/2021 at 12:35 PM, transam said:

You speak perfect Thai then, or search out establishments that speak your lingo. To explain something technical uses up a lot of words even in English, in Thai, near impossible.....????

Maybe your experience not mine

[StevieAus]

13 hours ago, l4ml4m said:

 

I do not have any problem but I guess that by having over hundred supposedly highly qualified staff over the years I clearly know better than you that competence is not what you find the most here.

 

 

You of course are entitled to your opinion and your comment “ I clearly know better than you ......” sums it up perfectly for me.

[richard_smith237]

On 1/6/2021 at 8:28 AM, StevieAus said:

Plenty of qualified people here in many fields who know what they are doing I never have a problem, but then there are some people who have difficulty in making the correct decision because they don’t ask the right questions, perhaps you are one of them?

 

How do you communicate with these mechanics and engineers to ask the right question ??? 

 

In my experience - there are very few mechanics in any garage who speak english to any level recognised as technically proficient. Additionally, all but advanced Thai speakers posses the technical vocabulary to ask such questions of mechanics, engineers and technicians. 

 

 

The only success I have ever had in communicating issues directly with a skilled automotive engineer was when a specialist was sent up to Bangkok from Sattahip (He was Australian and the vehicle was a 4 year old Range Rover).

 

 

So, while I agree with you, there are plenty of qualified people here in many fields, many of those qualifications do not include a requirement for any English proficiency at all - this is even so of the medical profession where younger Doctors or those educated overseas may speak with English with a medically technical proficiency, but many do not - so really, Mechanics and Engineers in a Garage - No... I’ve not met one who speaks proficient English and I know very few foreigners who are that technically proficient in Thai. 

 

 

 

[Susco]

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

In my experience - there are very few mechanics in any garage who speak english to any level recognised as technically proficient. Additionally, all but advanced Thai speakers posses the technical vocabulary to ask such questions of mechanics, engineers and technicians. 

Isn't that what the service department manager is for? To be the middle man between customer and mechanic.

 

I have never bought a multimillion baht European car in Thailand, but I doubt that those garages don't have a service department where the manager speaks sufficient English.

 

I know in the Nissan garage where I service my car, I have no problems communicating in English

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, Susco said:

Isn't that what the service department manager is for? To be the middle man between customer and mechanic.

 

I have never bought a multimillion baht European car in Thailand, but I doubt that those garages don't have a service department where the manager speaks sufficient English.

 

I know in the Nissan garage where I service my car, I have no problems communicating in English

 

Yes, then you are communicating through a middleman who can then dress things up, simplify or outright lie as he sees fit. 

 

My Wife, fluent in English also lacks the technical Thai vocabulary to entertain a technical automotive discussion. 

 

None of this has ever been an issue for me when I’ve just ‘dropped the car off’ and let them do whatever they need to do. With BMW’s, Honda’s, Mazda's etc the car has been within Warranty so I have cared little what they have done. 

 

However, at 4 yrs old - the RR was out of warranty and I wanted to be very specific and very sure of what I was spending my money on as quotes to repair or fix an Air-suspension etc could be as high as 200,000 baht etc. Then I wanted to know how and why, and all the exact details - I wanted to be educated fully as to why I’m spending that amount - the customer service managers sufficient English doesn’t really cut it in such situations. 

 

(It would be very apt of this forum if some tool were to now pipe up and suggest I live in an English speaking country if I don’t like it !!!!)

 

As always, these minor hiccups work out in the end. But if someone is suggesting they are speaking with the mechanic or technician on the workshop floor who is able to explain eloquently in English what the issues are or are able to fully comprehend our English and explanation of where ’that knocking noise is coming from when driving at 53kmh while turning slightly left on a slightly uneven road’ then the poster has either been extremely fortunate and things worked out, or they are telling porkie pies !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JAS21]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yes, then you are communicating through a middleman who can then dress things up, simplify or outright lie as he sees fit. 

 

My Wife, fluent in English also lacks the technical Thai vocabulary to entertain a technical automotive discussion. 

 

None of this has ever been an issue for me when I’ve just ‘dropped the car off’ and let them do whatever they need to do. With BMW’s, Honda’s, Mazda's etc the car has been within Warranty so I have cared little what they have done. 

 

However, at 4 yrs old - the RR was out of warranty and I wanted to be very specific and very sure of what I was spending my money on as quotes to repair or fix an Air-suspension etc could be as high as 200,000 baht etc. Then I wanted to know how and why, and all the exact details - I wanted to be educated fully as to why I’m spending that amount - the customer service managers sufficient English doesn’t really cut it in such situations. 

 

(It would be very apt of this forum if some tool were to now pipe up and suggest I live in an English speaking country if I don’t like it !!!!)

 

As always, these minor hiccups work out in the end. But if someone is suggesting they are speaking with the mechanic or technician on the workshop floor who is able to explain eloquently in English what the issues are or are able to fully comprehend our English and explanation of where ’that knocking noise is coming from when driving at 53kmh while turning slightly left on a slightly uneven road’ then the poster has either been extremely fortunate and things worked out, or they are telling porkie pies !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you did not opt for RR Extended warranty, or is it not available here in Thailand.

[DavisH]

On 1/3/2021 at 1:02 AM, talahtnut said:

Cleaning a car engine is a bit like polishing a bucket.

I think you don't belong in the Motoring forum lol

[DavisH]

On 1/6/2021 at 2:51 PM, Russell17au said:

Isuzu is a diesel motor and will go through deeper water than a petrol motor because a diesel does not have the electrics (distributor, coil, spark plugs and high tension leads) that a petrol motor has

Just saw a video of a new navara. It ran through 900mm of water, but water started to leak into the cabin. But the vehicle went through it no problem. I'd avoig it though the the carpet needs removign and cleaning properly.