Trump supporters who stormed U.S. Capitol could face sedition charges -prosecutor

[spidermike007]

There should be some national security laws in place, that allow Trump to be locked up in jail, until the 20th. He is a dangerous man, and a threat to the nation. 

 

And as far as charging his rioters with sedition, I have no issue with that. But, only a small percentage of the ones who broke into the capital building were arrested. 

 

Compared to Portland, where protestors who came close to government buildings were treated quite harshly, this reeks of favoritism toward the white Trump crowd. How can the capital building, with congress in session, not be considered a far greater security threat, than a nearly empty government building in Portland? Something smells fishy here. 

 

No doubt the capital police failed miserably. But, was it a deliberate failure? And if so, should they be charged with a crime? 

[Jeffr2]

Betsy just resigned!! Yahoo!!!

 

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/07/betsy-devos-resigns-in-protest/

[ThaiWai]

8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There should be some national security laws in place, that allow Trump to be locked up in jail, until the 20th. He is a dangerous man, and a threat to the nation. 

 

And as far as charging his rioters with sedition, I have no issue with that. But, only a small percentage of the ones who broke into the capital building were arrested. 

 

Compared to Portland, where protestors who came close to government buildings were treated quite harshly, this reeks of favoritism toward the white Trump crowd. How can the capital building, with congress in session, not be considered a far greater security threat, than a nearly empty government building in Portland? Something smells fishy here. 

 

No doubt the capital police failed miserably. But, was it a deliberate failure? And if so, should they be charged with a crime? 

 

"...rioters..."

"...protesters..."

 

Zip up. Your bias is showing

[Lacessit]

People in the White House are resigning en masse, disgusted by Trump's incitement of the mob. January 20 can't come quickly enough.

[Blue Muton]

5 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Betsy just resigned!! Yahoo!!!

 

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/07/betsy-devos-resigns-in-protest/

That is one vile excuse for a human being. Good riddance, but it makes little difference as she'd have been out of that post in a few days anyway.

[newatthis]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Crazy white people.

 

Robert Moore/iTV piece is a different view...

 

 

If you listen to the ravings of that protestor at 2:17 approx; you have to wonder about the intelligence of these people. Normal law abiding citizens who were FORCED by the government to do these actions. Obviously freedom of choice is a non-concept in the land of the brave or are there really zombies in the USA?

[Lacessit]

Just now, ThaiWai said:

 

"...rioters..."

"...protesters..."

 

Zip up. Your bias is showing

So is yours. Can't you see the difference between dispersing peaceful protestors with tear gas and rubber bullets so a President can pose for a photo opportunity, and the same President inciting a mob to march on the Capitol?

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So is yours. Can't you see the difference between dispersing peaceful protestors with tear gas and rubber bullets so a President can pose for a photo opportunity, and the same President inciting a mob to march on the Capitol?

Not a mob but domestic terrorists who murdered a police man during their insane attack. 

[placeholder]

If you're like me, maybe you were wondering what these rioters hope to accomplish by invading the Capitol. It turns out that a lot of them were qanon supporters and they believed that by doing this they would instigate the storm. If you don't know what the storm is it's the Day of Reckoning when the corrupt elites will be tried and executed for treason. The paste link function on my mobile isn't working now but if you go to Business Insider you can get all the details.

Edited January 8, 2021 by placeholder

[bendejo]

Just now, placeholder said:

If you're like me, maybe you were wondering what these rioters hope to accomplish by invading the capital. It turns out that's a lot of them were qanon supporters and they believed that by doing this they would instigate the storm. If you don't know what the storm is it's the Day of Reckoning when the corrupt elites will be tried and executed for treason. The paste link function on my mobile isn't working now but if you go to Business Insider you can get all the details.

 

It looks like they were having a dog caught up with car moment.

 

Listen to them on the news channels.  Well, CNN at least.  Fox is saying most were ANTIFA, which is not true.

So is the MAGA chatter, first heard of it on a CSPAN call-in.  On the one hand they are bragging about what they did, on the other they are blaming ANTIFA.  Fun thing about dealing with stupid people is they think everyone else is as dumb as they are.

And they were taking pictures of themselves.

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

1 hour ago, SometimezaGreatNotion said:

Trump is now probably now discussing a resignation / Pence pardon him deal.

His new book: The Art of the Squirm

 

nope.  seems the two are no longer speaking to each other, and pence's chief of staff has been banned from entering the white house.

 

betcha the meme creators on youtube will be having a field day with that clip from downfall!

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/surrounded-by-a-shrinking-circle-of-aides-a-brooding-trump-lays-into-pence-idUSKBN29C2R6

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/electoral-college-certification-updates-n1252864/ncrd1253212#blogHeader

[Walker88]

33 minutes ago, ThaiWai said:

 

"...rioters..."

"...protesters..."

 

Zip up. Your bias is showing

Terrorists.

 

Fixed it.

 

If some jihadi 10K km away in the tribal regions of Pakistan even said something about attacking the US, authorization goes out to fire a Hellfire missile up his backside.

 

Those terrorists Wednesday deserve the same thing, as they were a far greater threat than any jihadi in Quetta.

[cmarshall]

36 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

People in the White House are resigning en masse, disgusted by Trump's incitement of the mob. January 20 can't come quickly enough.

 

That's just brand management.

[spiekerjozef]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Trump supporters who stormed U.S. Capitol could face sedition charges

What you mean "could" ?

[Chomper Higgot]

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If you're like me, maybe you were wondering what these rioters hope to accomplish by invading the Capitol. It turns out that a lot of them were qanon supporters and they believed that by doing this they would instigate the storm. If you don't know what the storm is it's the Day of Reckoning when the corrupt elites will be tried and executed for treason. The paste link function on my mobile isn't working now but if you go to Business Insider you can get all the details.

Oh they’ve instigated a storm alright.

 

It’s headed straight for them and Trump will not be throwing them rolls of tissue paper.

[spiekerjozef]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s headed straight for them and Trump will not be throwing them rolls of tissue paper.

and we still have to call him Mr. President for the rest of his life...

[cmarshall]

It could have been a massacre of the Congress yesterday followed by a decree of martial law including an indefinite postponement of the inauguration.  I don't know if that was in the minds of the putschists, but I'll bet it was in Trump's mind.

[spiekerjozef]

1 minute ago, cmarshall said:

It could have been a massacre of the Congress yesterday followed by a decree of martial law including an indefinite postponement of the inauguration.  I don't know if that was in the minds of the putschists, but I'll bet it was in Trump's mind.

Explains the pre-recorded videos he released afterwards.

[heybruce]

16 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

nope.  seems the two are no longer speaking to each other, and pence's chief of staff has been banned from entering the white house.

 

betcha the meme creators on youtube will be having a field day with that clip from downfall!

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump/surrounded-by-a-shrinking-circle-of-aides-a-brooding-trump-lays-into-pence-idUSKBN29C2R6

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/electoral-college-certification-updates-n1252864/ncrd1253212#blogHeader

Trump's anger at Pence for doing what he was constitutionally required to do may have shut out Trump's best chance of avoiding Federal charges.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, heybruce said:

Trump's anger at Pence for doing what he was constitutionally required to do may have shut out Trump's best chance of avoiding Federal charges.

Yeah, Pence finally stood up to Trump.  So perhaps the possibility of Trump resigning and Pence giving him a pardon is out the window?

[heybruce]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yeah, Pence finally stood up to Trump.  So perhaps the possibility of Trump resigning and Pence giving him a pardon is out the window?

One hopes.  Although I'm not sure if Trump's ego would have ever allowed him to resign.

[2530Ubon]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

There should be some national security laws in place, that allow Trump to be locked up in jail, until the 20th. 

There's the 25th amendment - doesn't lock him up, but it removes him from power for being unfit for office. Apparently several cabinet members were considering this option yesterday.

[cmarshall]

13 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

Explains the pre-recorded videos he released afterwards.

 

Gov. Larry Hogan of Maryland was called by Steny Hoyer, congressman from Maryland, on the phone while he is huddled with Pelosi, Schumer and others in some bunker asking can he send help, the Capitol is overrun.  Hogan says yes he has national guard and riot police ready to go, but he needs authorization to send them in to D.C. from the Secy of Defense.  He calls DoD who denies him authorization until finally, an hour and a half later, the Secy of the Army calls him to say he now has authorization.

 

This was a plot to lead to martial law.  Two other facts support that inference: after the election Trump replaced much of the civilian leadership at DoD and Barr's recent resignation.  I think Barr got wind of the plot and didn't want anything to do with it.  He has since blamed Trump for the attack on Congress.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

3 minutes ago, 2530Ubon said:

There's the 25th amendment - doesn't lock him up, but it removes him from power for being unfit for office. Apparently several cabinet members were considering this option yesterday.

 

that's if any are left....

 

Trump Administration Officials Who Resigned Over Capitol Violence

https://www.nytimes.com/article/trump-resignations.html

 

mulvaney has indicated more resignations are to be expected, that "a trickle of other departures may become a flood."

[cmarshall]

2 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

that's if any are left....

 

Trump Administration Officials Who Resigned Over Capitol Violence

https://www.nytimes.com/article/trump-resignations.html

 

mulvaney has indicated more resignations are to be expected, that "a trickle of other departures may become a flood."

 

The Secretarys of Transportation and Education have already resigned.  Since it is not clear that whoever is functioning as the acting secretary in those departments can exert the 25th Amendment, did they resign just to block the invocation of the 25th Amendment in case Pence was inclined to do so.

[bunnydrops]

Shhhhh Don't be to hard on Trump. Remember he still has the red button.

[ChouDoufu]

9 minutes ago, cmarshall said:

 

The Secretarys of Transportation and Education have already resigned.  Since it is not clear that whoever is functioning as the acting secretary in those departments can exert the 25th Amendment, did they resign just to block the invocation of the 25th Amendment in case Pence was inclined to do so.

 

regardless, it appears nancy is planning to introduce another set of articles of impeachment on wednesday, making trump the first president to be impeached twice.

 

won't go anywhere in the senate, but will make for delicious political theater, and provide many juicy quotes from republican senators that will be thinking of the 2022 midterms.  20 of the 34 seats up for grabs are currently held by republicans.

[ChouDoufu]

18 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

Shhhhh Don't be to hard on Trump. Remember he still has the red button.

 

fun fact:  the red button on the president's desk summons the butler.

 

****

did a search to document this:

 

Until January 20, Trump still retains control over everything from the nuclear missile codes to the red button on the Oval Office desk that summons a butler to deliver his beloved Diet Cokes.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/trump-still-two-weeks-left-173545418.html

 

another fun fact:  the googles updates bigly quickly.

Edited January 8, 2021 by ChouDoufu

[cmarshall]

1 minute ago, ChouDoufu said:

 

regardless, it appears nancy is planning to introduce another set of articles of impeachment on wednesday, making trump the first president to be impeached twice.

 

won't go anywhere in the senate, but will make for delicious political theater, and provide many juicy quotes from republican senators that will be thinking of the 2022 midterms.  20 of the 34 seats up for grabs are currently held by republicans.

 

Impeachment is still important.  McConnell will not conduct a trial in the Senate, but once Schumer becomes Majority Leader when the two new senators from GA take their seats he will hold a real trial which will include testimony and other evidence, not like the last impeachment trial. The Republicans still won't convict him, but the case against him and his co-conspirators will be made to the American people.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

3 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

Trump could pardon them.
 

Does anybody actually think that Donald Trump is going to care enough about this cross section of the Hee Haw viewing demographic that he pulled his Jedi Mind Trick on, in the next 12 days, to find out who they are and pardon them? He is currently consumed with saving his and the inner circle's own collective seditious asses...and when he can get a good tee time on January 20th....and his upcoming unveiling of taxes in the State Of New York.