Trump faces calls for removal, possible impeachment after Capitol chaos

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

I saw a female protester being interviewed , she said " We have to back Trump , he is Americas last chance , we have to be saved from the socialists and communists "

Im thinking whoa , this is a throwback from the fifties , does she actually know what communism is.

I cant help but believe there is some kind of genetic inbalance at work here , did the lizard people contaminate the water or the cornbread ?

Great article to try and understand Trump's supporters.  It's complex, but mainly blamed on media outlets.  Sadly!!

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22217822/us-capitol-attack-trump-right-wing-media-misinformation

[Dumbastheycome]

4 minutes ago, paddypower said:

Removal from office is all but impossible. I believe that It needs majority votes to do so, at 3 levels of Govt. ; the Cabinet, Senate and Congress.

I believe  Section 4 of the  25th puts it in Pence's domain to declare Trump incapacitated ( by reason of  freaken insanity ! ) which if  agreed to  by a majority of  the Cabinet would stand down Trump. The Senate only need  be  informed  of the decision .

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Bit of a waste of time he has already made a conceding statement of handed over power and only has a matter of days to go.

At the very least its symbolic , in the record books he goes down as an even bigger loser.

[stevenl]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Twitter just banned 45 forever, citing 45's inciting of violence.

Also tweets from the official White House account deleted, and other platforms (Parler) are having a hard time with Google and Apple requiring moderation or or a ban. Same reason, inciting violence.

Edited January 9, 2021 by stevenl

[paddypower]

36 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

I saw a female protester being interviewed , she said " We have to back Trump , he is Americas last chance , we have to be saved from the socialists and communists "

Im thinking whoa , this is a throwback from the fifties , does she actually know what communism is.

I cant help but believe there is some kind of genetic inbalance at work here , did the lizard people contaminate the water or the cornbread ?

yeah, our home was in Vancouver, BC for 25 years. When we visited friends and partied in Seattle, we used to get astonished when we were referred to living up in that socialist country. Coming from Europe, it seemed so naieve/infantile.

[joecoolfrog]

42 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Hawley's political career is over...

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/josh-hawley/index.html

 

Josh Hawley's ploy to be a pro-Trump hero results in withering blowback

Im thinking there could well be a backlash against the Trump brand as well.

[earlinclaifornia]

On 1/8/2021 at 11:32 AM, ThailandRyan said:

12 days and the man is gone.  Not enough time to even start a trial.  Move on nothing to see here.  Sedition charges maybe for instigating the overthrow by his tweets or statements, again so many cases against the man.  If he was in Thailand he would flee to Dubai and be like the others, out of reach but not of touch with his base.

Un informed Sir. We can for a second time impeach him for the new articles. Mitch won't start the process until January 19. Mitch will lose his majority and become the minority leader. The new majority just needs 20 Republicans to not show up for the vote.  Included in the article trump will not be allowed to ever run for another office. Stay tuned Sir.

[KhunFred]

Nothing they do to Trump will be nearly enough. Four years of this should be a great learning experience, but I fear that voter amnesia is as strong as it has ever been.

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27 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Un informed Sir. We can for a second time impeach him for the new articles. Mitch won't start the process until January 19. Mitch will lose his majority and become the minority leader. The new majority just needs 20 Republicans to not show up for the vote.  Included in the article trump will not be allowed to ever run for another office. Stay tuned Sir.

Actually, the new Senate convened on Jan 3. Democratic control won't begin until Georgia confirms the Senatorial election victories and the  2 new Democratic senators are seated.

Edited January 9, 2021 by placeholder

[earlinclaifornia]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the new Senate convened on Jan 3. Democratic control won't begin until Georgia confirms the Senatorial election victories and the 3 new Democratic senators are seated.

The new majority leader can then call for a vote. Impeachment does not need him in office.

[Jeffr2]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Actually, the new Senate convened on Jan 3. Democratic control won't begin until Georgia confirms the Senatorial election victories and the 3 new Democratic senators are seated.

do you know when that will be?  I'll try to google it...

[earlinclaifornia]

20 hours ago, Mavideol said:

amazing to see how ready (sarcasm) the police and/or security forces were to protect one of the must important places of Democracy..... compared to the quantity of law enforcement ready/available when the BL Matters walk, this is/was a joke and now all security forces blaming one another/each other for the delays

Spelled as "white privilege" .

[earlinclaifornia]

16 hours ago, rgraham said:

The coup has built up from the socialists over the past four years leading to the discontent we are seeing now.

They are simply Hitler"s followers and it has zero to do with socialism. 

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11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

do you know when that will be?  I'll try to google it...

It depends on when Georgia officially cettifies it. I realize this is not much of an answer. 

[Walker88]

Here's one of those 'coincidences' that reminds us that in the digital age, EVERYTHING is permanent:

[earlinclaifornia]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Twitter just banned 45 forever, citing 45's inciting of violence.

Twitters reasonings for the ban was a result of his last two posts. The explanation is an amazing read.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, paddypower said:

a wise friend says that behind the scenes, the regulars in the military would have stayed in stand down position, throughout a coup, if not for the leadership of the Generals.  scary thought. Giuliani & Trump Junior should be  prosecuted for fomenting a riot, if not for treason.

Regular troops always stand down unless receiving legal orders through their chain of command to go into action.  That's how a professional military works.

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, J Town said:

It needs a 2/3 majority vote by the Senators in attendance. If the 45 supporting Senators decide to stay home, they can save face and let the REAL Senators take care of business.

Some Republican Senators are fed up with Trump; I've been told that McConnell is one of them.  Some want to run in 2024 without having him in the race.  A 2/3 majority vote is still a high hurdle, but it's not inconceivable.  If it prevents Trump from ever again running for office, it is well worth the effort.

Edited January 9, 2021 by heybruce

[heybruce]

42 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Here's one of those 'coincidences' that reminds us that in the digital age, EVERYTHING is permanent:

Fantastic.  Thank you for that post.

 

Can you tell us where you found these pictures so that we might share them with our friends?

[Walker88]

16 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Fantastic.  Thank you for that post.

 

Can you tell us where you found these pictures so that we might share them with our friends?

 

You can access most of them on Twitter, and you don't need an account. People are getting doxxed, then others are finding the doxxed person's Facebook or Instagram page and grabbing photos. These guys all seem to be as narcissistic as 45, but it comes back to haunt them.

 

Some of the people in the Lincoln Project keep posting this stuff, or people who respond to them post it. Just Google for something like "Rick Wilson Twitter acct" and you're in. No account needed.

 

The FBI has asked for help identifying anybody in the insurrection videos, and there are thousands of people trying to help, including such skilled outfits as Bellingcat. Already some of the more prominent terrorists have been arrested, such as the moron who messed up Speaker Pelosi's office, the head of proud boys Hawaii (arrested at Honolulu Airport upon his return home), the WV State Rep who was stupid enough to post a vid on his Facebook page, and some others.

 

Both the FBI and Secret Service will be going after the terrorists who were chanting, "Hang Mike Pence". If some clown in the middle of nowhere chants that, the SS might visit them, but when someone who breached the Capitol and is within shouting distance of the VP, those guys will get more than a visit.

Edited January 9, 2021 by Walker88

[simple1]

Mistaken post - self deleted

Edited January 9, 2021 by simple1

[Odysseus123]

'Overture...dim the lights..

This is it the night of nights

And oh what a show this is..

On with the show this it!"

 

Enter..Elmer Fudd..Foghorn Leghorn..Tweety...the roadrunner....exuent bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.

 

A very fitting commentary on US politics for the past 60 years.

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Twitters reasonings for the ban was a result of his last two posts. The explanation is an amazing read.

Yeah, especially the plans for a bigger domestic terrorist attack on the 17th.  What's wrong with these people?

[spidermike007]

At a very minimum, he should be locked up in a cell until the 20th, and then ushered back to Florida by a US Marshal. If he is not considered a felon, he should be. He is a very dangerous man. Been saying that since well before he was elected. 

[Walker88]

Not to be outdone, apparently, here's giuliani with the 45 rally groupie who calls himself "!Q-shaman"

 

[J Town]

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

As I said Trump has conceded already.

The police were at fault for letting the protesters get violet and the person in charge has resigned.

He never conceded. He still remains deluded, saying it's a rigged system.

[J Town]

5 hours ago, Sujo said:

Conceding doesnt stop him creating chaos.

Again, he never conceded. His mind is not dealing well with reality.

[J Town]

5 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

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Most in the military are hard core supporters of the constitution.  They may like Trump, but they won't do anything that violates their oath to the constitution.  Some nutters for sure, but the vast majority, especially those in power, are hard core loyalists to the constitution.

There were too many terrorists who invaded the capitol under the color of law. That guy with a belt full of police zip tie loops? You don't get those unless you are connected to law enforcement.

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4 hours ago, placeholder said:

It depends on when Georgia officially cettifies it. I realize this is not much of an answer. 

I found this

Incoming U.S. Sens. Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff will have to wait until Georgia’s election results are certified later this month before they can be sworn into office.

 

Even though both of their Republican opponents have conceded, the election results won’t be official until each of Georgia’s 159 counties and the secretary of state finalize vote counts.

 

Georgia law gives Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger 17 days after the election, until Jan. 22, to certify the results.

Georgia Senate runoffs: Ossoff and Warnock won't be sworn in immediately (ajc.com)

[placeholder]

20 minutes ago, J Town said:

There were too many terrorists who invaded the capitol under the color of law. That guy with a belt full of police zip tie loops? You don't get those unless you are connected to law enforcement.

Actually, you can get them through amazon.com

Amazon.com : flexi-cuffs