Any pick-up recommendation?

[PGSan]

19 hours ago, transam said:

what a modern truck should be l

What is your spec for that?

[transam]

1 minute ago, PGSan said:

What is your spec for that?

Can you re-post in full.....

[PGSan]

3 hours ago, Thai Dan said:

spaces that are Thailand sized. 

As opposed to where-sized?  What is the difference? 

[PGSan]

3 hours ago, Thai Dan said:

about Ford cars in Thailand

None (almost) left so nothing to opine on! 

[PGSan]

9 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

wouldn't buy a Ford in Thailand. 

Where do you suggest to buy one? 

[PGSan]

14 hours ago, HighPriority said:

I was going to suggest buying a lady drink...

????

Or a few, for that “full-size supercharged” experience!  Not sure about getting a 4-door??? 

[PGSan]

2 hours ago, Ireland32 said:

2 hours ago, SimpleMan555 said:

For my body size (184 ht, 98 kgs), the Ford fits my larger frame

Does not sound very large!

 

[KannikaP]

18 hours ago, heiri007 said:

Thanks for the heads-ups!

 

Cabins seem tight though - too big of a compromise compared to regular sedans?

 

And is it possible to have a pick-up with a black/white number plate? There are some, but most have the green/white plates.

2 doors are classed as commercial so green plates, 4 doors are ''cars' so black/white, which means higher road tax.

[NanLaew]

9 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

Pickups are designed as working vehicles to carry heavy loads. The suspension designs are normally archaic - so there are big compromises in ride and handling compared to a saloon car.

I think the Fords ride and handle best but I personally wouldn't buy a Ford in Thailand. 

For me it would come down to Toyota, Isuzu...

 

Most pickup owners who are not farmers or hauling stuff commercially do all sorts of tire and suspension upgrades to make the hay wagon ride better. By the same token, some others do all sorts of tweaks and mods that are all for look and not for purpose.

 

Got to agree with Ford handling though, I've had two since 2011 and great for long-hauls on Thailand's mostly rubbish provincial highways.

 

This morning, I was side-swiped by an "undertaking" Isuzu pickup with big fat tires but not enough speed and a blind driver. Finding his lane suddenly full of another parked pickup, he swerved left to "shoot the gap" and his big fat drivers side rear tire hit my passenger side front tire. As he fishtailed around over two lanes in front of me, just managing to avoid a 360 and flip, my ABS worked appropriately as he shot off to my left and busted his front suspension and airdam on the new, 8" high concrete kerb stone. All I got was his tire rubber burn all over my rim and a rich, black sidewall!

 

Bullet dodged... again.

[natway09]

Isuzu before you decide, take a look, they last forever. we did over 700,000 Km without ever taking the head off, just kept on rolling along. The diesel engines like to work, if you are looking for a vehicle to use once or twice a week go petrol

[DJ54]

On 1/10/2021 at 6:18 PM, heiri007 said:

black/white number plate? There are some, but most have the green/white plates

I think the green /on white is 2 door truck all other personal trucks are black/on white

[heiri007]

Ranger Wildtrak seems a great ride, just have to test those back seats again! ????

 

It's a heavy vehicle due to steel frame with over 2k kgs, so not the most efficient fuel economy. But guess province driving at some 7l/100km should be possible?

[heiri007]

2 hours ago, heiri007 said:

Ranger Wildtrak seems a great ride, just have to test those back seats again! ????

 

It's a heavy vehicle due to steel frame with over 2k kgs, so not the most efficient fuel economy. But guess province driving at some 7l/100km should be possible?

 

... oh and guess end of 2021 there'll be an update. Current Ranger lineup was launched end of 2018, so 3-year cycle seems reasonable.

[maxpower]

22 hours ago, Brunolem said:

Are these the famous New Zealand All Blacks?

 

Yes, returning from another Aussie battering. 

 

@PGSan was confused, I forgot to label the photo for those who find it a little too challenging.

[yankee99]

On 1/10/2021 at 8:59 PM, Moonlover said:

If the pick up has a full size cab with four doors, proper seats and seat belts in the back, it's regarded and registered as a passenger vehicle and it will black on white plates.

 

The smaller cabs with no back door or just the half door are regarded as work vehicles and carry green on white plates. Legally no passengers are allowed in the rear of the cab, it's for baggage only. Many people buy them because there is less purchase tax to pay. And then carry the whole family in them!

 

 

Not sure if what you said is correct. My understanding is green / white plate goes on 2 door vehicles whether its a truck or car. 

[transam]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Thailand

[Lacessit]

I've found the line " If I told you you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me" doesn't work too well here. Language barrier.

Oops sorry, thought I was in the Farang Pub forum.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, yankee99 said:

Not sure if what you said is correct. My understanding is green / white plate goes on 2 door vehicles whether its a truck or car. 

Get me a photograph of a 2 door car with green plates and I'll believe you.

[Hanuman2547]

On 1/10/2021 at 12:11 AM, heiri007 said:

Good day

 

I like it powerful yet with good fuel economy. Ford Raptor is a bit on the too expensive side. ????

 

Ranger Wildtrak looks good, yet fool economy doesn't look too convincing with above 8l/100km

 

Looking for double cabin for 5 passengers.

 

Toyota Hilux Revo Rocco?

 

Mazda?

 

Inputs appreciatedÈ!

Go with the Toyota!  They are very reliable and there are Toyota dealers all over Thailand for when you need service.  Less so with Ford's and Mazda's.  

[Thai Dan]

23 hours ago, PGSan said:

As opposed to where-sized?  What is the difference? 

As opposed to the U.S.

 

Also as opposed to, say, the Toyota, which is a boat by comparison.  Nothing wrong with that if you like a larger body size, it's just that much more difficult to see over and around the far corners of the truck body when parking or getting into tight spaces.  In fact, I think the idea with the Toyota series is that it feels like, and is, a bigger truck, which a lot of people like.  I also found the hood on the Toyotas to be longer, higher and less sloped downward towards the front, which also hinders your ability to judge how close you may be getting to the end of a parking space if you pull in nose first.

 

I am not saying either one is better, I am just sharing my perceptions to give perspective buyers something to be aware of when trying to find a truck that fits their preferences.

[Thai Dan]

Nice promo video of the Ford Wildtrak from the last car show:

 

 

[Thai Dan]

On 1/11/2021 at 8:50 AM, Katipo said:

The Aussie and Kiwi review sites (which absolutely love their utes) are putting the  new Isuzu and Mazda at the top of the rankings. They are the same platform and identical in many ways. Mazda has a more plush interior, Isuzu is a bit more rought and tumble. Comes down to personal preference. Most seem to agree these two look the best, both inside and out.

 

Ford wins with the best on road handling still. Which is quite impressive considering it's age, and it's weight (it's easily the heaviest at 2.2k kgs). This is in contrast to the new Toyota, which is the most skittery and least refined to drive on a regular road with an unladen tray.

 

The reasons to buy the Mitsubishi are price, and turning circle. You save a fully metre when doing a u-turn, which could be big plus on Thai roads. Otherwise you are better looking at the other trucks above.

 

Nissan doesn't get a look in because while the new exterior upgrades are very attractive, the interior is perhaps the oldest looking of the lot, Thailand only has the old 2.3l engine variant, and because of tax restrictions, you can get the rear spring version here (which was the one that handles really well).

You made me remember another good point on our Ford Ranger: the turning radius is really tight, meaning we can make those U-turns in one shot, where many other trucks AND cars may swing too wide to complete a U-turn at an intersection in one go.  Cheers.

[Thai Dan]

On 1/11/2021 at 10:28 AM, Brunolem said:

There you go...Nissan N Trek Warrior...very comfy and much fun to drive...not so much to park though...

Is that yours?  If so, how do you keep the tire sidewalls and white letters so clean?  They look great!  I haven't had much luck with mine....

[Thai Dan]

29 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Go with the Toyota!  They are very reliable and there are Toyota dealers all over Thailand for when you need service.  Less so with Ford's and Mazda's.  

Respectfully, I think the idea that Ford does not have either dealers or parts all over Thailand is a bit dated.  Look around in any 35,000 population town and I think you'll find at least one Ford dealer with a service department.  Not as big as the Toyota service departments, perhaps, but the technicians are usually fairly well trained and on the Ford maintenance network if they have questions.  Ford has come a long way here in Thailand and their service has improved over the last 5 years.

 

From Ford Thailand, as of October 2019:

 

Ford Thailand manages the production, distribution, sales and servicing of Ford brand vehicles through its local market headquarters in Bangkok, and a nationwide network of 155 authorized Ford dealerships. Ford employs more than 10,000 people in Thailand between its corporate offices and two manufacturing facilities – its wholly-owned Ford Thailand Manufacturing and Auto-Alliance Thailand joint-venture.

Supported by the Ford Fund, the Company has trained more than 12,000 licensed drivers in Thailand through its flagship Driving Skills for Life campaign, which equips new drivers with hands-on training to drive more safely. Ford employees volunteer for a number of initiatives each year to deliver tangible benefits to local communities in Thailand, including building new homes with Habitat for Humanity for underprivileged families, and renovating schools near its manufacturing facility in Rayong.

For more information, visit www.ford.co.th.

[LukKrueng]

On 1/11/2021 at 2:03 AM, HauptmannUK said:

Pickups are designed as working vehicles to carry heavy loads. The suspension designs are normally archaic - so there are big compromises in ride and handling compared to a saloon car.

I think the Fords ride and handle best but I personally wouldn't buy a Ford in Thailand. 

For me it would come down to Toyota, Isuzu...

Ford is a comfortable ride, stable. But - service is sh*t, and I tried few places. Parts are expensive. Lose value big time. 

[chilly07]

Thais like Toyota so maintains value but for me it's Isuzu all the time. Had my DMax for 6 years and only changed the battery. Ride best of all. Dealer service in Pattaya is good.

Never get a ford. Cheaply made and tarted up to look expensive. Pick ups will soon follow saloons into obscurity. Too many class actions around the world!

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Thai Dan said:

Is that yours?  If so, how do you keep the tire sidewalls and white letters so clean?  They look great!  I haven't had much luck with mine....

That's mine.

 

I have it regularly washed by a good specialist, and it is also quite new...only 3,500 km...

[PGSan]

6 hours ago, Thai Dan said:

As opposed to the U.S.

That is not at all surprising!  Thanks for the confirmation that it is not Thai being small.

[PGSan]

6 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

Ford service is sh*t

 

agreed, for cars too.

[transam]

6 hours ago, Thai Dan said:

Nice promo video of the Ford Wildtrak from the last car show:

 

 

Nice colour....