Thai private hospitals reserve COVID-19 vaccines ahead of approval

[Tonypandy]

3 hours ago, Thaiophil said:

These two vaccines are in short supply and rich countries have prebought what is available for months to come. Why should the manufacturers bother to register in Thailand at this point? 

 

From government’s pov, they have to be stored at -70 degrees C, so not great for mass vaccination in a tropical country

Not Astra Zenica Oxford, just normal refidgeration 

[Tonypandy]

1 hour ago, Miami007 said:

Hilarious and true..

Which Government? 

[digger70]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

For patients, Thonburi's medical centres plan to offer two vaccine injections for 3,200 baht ($106.28).

 

"We cannot take a profit here because it is a humanitarian issue for the country," he said.

 

We will see Who's going to make a Fortune out of this  When/If  any of those come to Los.

How much each dose will cost 

The cost for each dose ranges from $3 to $37, depending on the vaccine.

Moderna, a two-dose vaccine, recently announced each dose will go for around $32 to $37.

The Pfizer vaccine, also given in two doses, is expected to cost $19.50 a dose.

Each dose for Johnson & Johnson’s two-dose vaccine will cost an estimated $10, and AstraZeneca’s two-dose vaccine could be the cheapest at just $3 to $4 a dose.

Novavax’s two-dose vaccine is estimated to be $16 a dose.

No individuals — regardless of whether they’re uninsured, have private health insurance, or have Medicare or Medicaid — will pay out of pocket for the vaccine itself, federal health officials have previously stated.

“Vaccine doses purchased with U.S. taxpayer dollars will be given to the American people at no cost,” the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)Trusted Source states.

Certain vaccine providers may charge an administration fee for giving the shot, but individuals can have that fee reimbursed.

“Vaccine providers can get this fee reimbursed by the patient’s public or private insurance company or, for uninsured patients, by the Health Resources and Services Administration’s Provider Relief Fund,” the CDC states.

 

 

 

What we know about distribution and administration costs

In addition to funding the research, development, and production of the vaccines, the federal government will also team up with McKesson to distribute the vaccines.

The one known exception here is Pfizer, which will handle the distribution of their vaccine, according to Soumi Saha, the senior director of advocacy at the healthcare improvement firm Premier, Inc.

The government has also created ancillary kits that contain needles, syringes, and personal protective equipment (PPE).

There are several other costs pertaining to the vaccine that remain unclear.

There are also storage costs, as some of the vaccines need to be kept in ultra-cold temperatures that many hospitals and retail pharmacies don’t have on-site.

“The costs that are unclear with the vaccine right now are, for example, hospitals, healthcare providers, pharmacies that are purchasing ultra-low freezers for the Pfizer vaccine, or the cost associated with the dry ice that they’re going to be using to replenish those Pfizer suitcases,” said Saha. “How are those costs reimbursed or accounted for?”

Funding is also needed to pay and train healthcare workers who will administer the vaccines, Lin noted.

Experts also expect the cost of the vaccine to increase after the pandemic.

“The initial doses will be government purchased and government provided,” said Saha. What remains unclear is how the vaccine will be priced for general consumption once the initial government-purchased doses run out.

Typically, vaccine costs are unregulated and private companies have the freedom to set the prices, according to Lin.

The post-pandemic vaccination costs will largely depend on demand.

More research is needed to determine if people will need booster shots over the year to maintain immunity, or if the vaccine will need to be given annually like the flu shot.

“In the long run, we don’t know that price,” said Lin.

 

 

 

The bottom line

The federal government has poured billions of dollars into COVID-19 vaccine research, development, and production.

Under Operation Warp Speed, as soon as the vaccines receive emergency approval by the FDA, which could come as early as mid-December, millions of doses will be distributed across the country to high-risk groups.

The vaccines will be available for Americans at no cost, but some providers may tack on administration fees that can be reimbursed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Drake]

18 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Each dose for Johnson & Johnson’s two-dose vaccine will cost an estimated $10,

 

The J&J is a single shot vaccine, not two doses. https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-interim-phase-1-2a-data-published-in-new-england-journal-of-medicine

[AUSSIEMAX]

We have already seen 1 private hospital  buy vaccinne for USD 32

and offer ar USD 300. 

Faron'g will be screwed again unless Govenment sets max price HA! HA!

[RotBenz8888]

13 hours ago, shdmn said:

 

Be careful what you wish for.

I am. 

[Biffski]

13 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Lies

 

This is corrupt private enterprise taking over what should be supplied by the Thai government. Will be saving Anutin's budget and providing a nice fat profit for the private hospitals. 3,200 baht when the cost price is only $5 USD (150 baht)

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1384867/sinovac-jabs-varying-prices-raise-alarm

Manufacturing cost is quite different than final cost. Final cost = transport, storage, proper preparation, i.e. dosage, etc., consultation, overhead and administration. 

 

[Mark17AA]

15 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

Count me out. 

Me too

[Nanaplaza666]

13 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

Lies

 

This is corrupt private enterprise taking over what should be supplied by the Thai government. Will be saving Anutin's budget and providing a nice fat profit for the private hospitals. 3,200 baht when the cost price is only $5 USD (150 baht)

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1384867/sinovac-jabs-varying-prices-raise-alarm

And they say they don't want to make any profit because it's humanitarian ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Nanaplaza666]

Just now, Nanaplaza666 said:

And they say they don't want to make any profit because it's humanitarian ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????? that's the same as Mr.P telling he does everything he does for the safety and health of the Thai population .

 

[rupert the bear]

the covid chinese jab is available on the mainland in many cities for some time,its about 60USD a shot.the hospitals offering it are making a profit,perhaps they factor in here the costs of jabbing their health workers etc and wish to cover that,i would not use the PRC vacc ,its efficiacy is 50% according to overseas govts that tested it IE brazil and indonesia.also the effects havent been properly studied yet as they are ongoing.im sure brazil and indo will be able to furnish them though.the astra vacc is far more effective perhaps get that.its an option as it can be done quickly .i understand peoples reticence for a no of reasons,thais in EU/UK will get it for free it seems unlikely we will but you never know.presently uk seems ahead of the pack .EU in a quagmire of red tape and USA ummm depends what news channels bombarding u!!im sure our american cousins will ramp it up though

[digger70]

32 minutes ago, AUSSIEMAX said:

We have already seen 1 private hospital  buy vaccinne for USD 32

and offer ar USD 300. 

Faron'g will be screwed again unless Govenment sets max price HA! HA!

Ain't going to happen that the Gov is going to set a Max Price ,unless they can get at least 50% of it. 

[DavisH]

Looks like this was a plan since November.  

[Neeranam]

How much is it in a private hospital?

[DavisH]

42 minutes ago, AUSSIEMAX said:

We have already seen 1 private hospital  buy vaccinne for USD 32

and offer ar USD 300. 

Faron'g will be screwed again unless Govenment sets max price HA! HA!

Supply and demand will set the price outside of the government system. Pay more the the astra zeneca. 2x as much as Thais? Who cares. Not all farangs will pay the "farang price" anyway. 

 

[Wazoo]

I'm ok.. they came and sprayed my garden fence with a covid curing magic potion.

I'm covered now. :0) 

[Jeffr2]

2 hours ago, Miami007 said:

You didn't get the point.  If you get the vaccine, you can still get the virus and pass it on. This requires the entire population to be vaccinated- probably every year 

It took many years to eradicate smallpox.  Ebola comes and disappears.  

Covid will be pushed down and return for many years 

Well aware of that.  Around 70% need to be jabbed to achieve herd immunity and get this mess behind us.  CV19 isn't smallpox.  Nor is Ebola.

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, Tonypandy said:

Not Astra Zenica Oxford, just normal refidgeration 

The two being referred to in that post are the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

[Farang in the Margins]

I’ve had my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, with the 2nd dose coming in 3 more weeks. No noticeable side effects, other than all 3 of my eyes do water a bit.  

[johnarth]

it has been published in Australia that 30 Norwegians have died since been given a vaccine, which one it is I do not know, but the Authorities say no worries the vaccine is safe???

[dcnx]

One thing we can all count on is Thailand and all the greedy SOBs involved will find a way to screw this up.

[hhinhh]

15 hours ago, wasabi said:

So far Sinovac and at some point the AstraZeneca vaccines appear to be the only choices in Thailand. If those two I will be taking the AstraZeneca one.

 

[hhinhh]

What a big surprise you prefer Astra Zeneca????

[Chivas]

Crying with laughter here......

 

"For patients, Thonburi's medical centres plan to offer two vaccine injections for 3,200 baht ($106.28).

We cannot take a profit here because it is a humanitarian issue for the country," he said."

 

Tell me how much even the most expensive vaccine is namely Pfizer  ??  $26 and Astrazeneca just $11 for export orders

 

Can only assume he's been copying Boris Johnsons ability to lie every time his lips move

[TimBKK]

59 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Looks like this was a plan since November.  

Time to short now that we know they will offer Sinovac 

[JRG23]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

"We cannot take a profit here because it is a humanitarian issue for the country," he said.

 

Hahahaha. Does he really expect people to believe this? 0%

[Jeffr2]

36 minutes ago, johnarth said:

it has been published in Australia that 30 Norwegians have died since been given a vaccine, which one it is I do not know, but the Authorities say no worries the vaccine is safe???

45 elderly Norwegians die in care homes every day.  They did these jabs anyway even though it wasn't recommended.  These are old and frail people. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-18/norway-finds-no-direct-link-between-elderly-deaths-and-vaccine

No evidence of direct link to Pfizer-BioNTech shot: officials

[Raphus]

I think this is a very prudent and wise decision. As stated ‘We cannot wait for the government’s decision’.

There is a waiting list months long. If they wait until the Government approves, they will be so far down the list that it will be pointless.

Plus the WHO and the international community have stated that ZERO profit can be made from the vaccine, only transportation costs can be absorbed as extra.

Well done for some forward thinking, because when the Thai Government roll out the vaccination program people here on TVF will be jumping up and down like Monkey Tennis at the inability of effective vaccination distribution and delivery.

[Jiggo]

Would not want anything injected into me that was Made in China, most likely on par with most of the second rate stuff they mass produce.

[joe jadore]

I seem to remember some old whinging fart saying it will be 5 years before we get the vaccines!?

And then there's other's saying, "not me, stick ya vaccines up you know where"!

So much for, with age comes wisdom ...............