Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

[thcosh]

hello, dentist broke the crown when removing it and I have to pay for a new one, is it always the case ?

Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

Please confirm your experience ? and tell me if 12000 for a crown is the correct price ? thanks guys.

[petermik]

7 hours ago, thcosh said:

hello, dentist broke the crown when removing it and I have to pay for a new one, is it always the case ?

Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

Please confirm your experience ? and tell me if 12000 for a crown is the correct price ? thanks guys.

Any decent Dentist would replace it for free if he did break it...12,000 for a standard crown seems expensive to me

[Halfaboy]

Did he inform you upfront that in case he would brake the crown you would have to pay ?

 

You could argue if he was a real dedicated and skilled craftsman he would not have broken the tooth.

[thaibeachlovers]

26 minutes ago, thcosh said:

hello, dentist broke the crown when removing it and I have to pay for a new one, is it always the case ?

Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

Please confirm your experience ? and tell me if 12000 for a crown is the correct price ? thanks guys.

NO way to get a crown off without breaking it, or at least there shouldn't be, or they would be falling off all the time.

If I remember correctly, it was about 11,000 for a crown 5 years ago. If it's a back tooth, a metal crown might be cheaper- all my molars are metal.

[thcosh]

2 hours ago, petermik said:

Any decent Dentist would replace it for free if he did break it...12,000 for a standard crown seems expensive to me

 

are you sure ? this is not what other people say...

 

[thcosh]

2 hours ago, Halfaboy said:

Did he inform you upfront that in case he would brake the crown you would have to pay ?

 

You could argue if he was a real dedicated and skilled craftsman he would not have broken the tooth.

 

no information prior to removing

should i really try something ?

 

[thcosh]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

NO way to get a crown off without breaking it, or at least there shouldn't be, or they would be falling off all the time.

If I remember correctly, it was about 11,000 for a crown 5 years ago. If it's a back tooth, a metal crown might be cheaper- all my molars are metal.

so do you think that this dentist is correct ? but he should have told me before removing it ?

 

[bkk6060]

6 minutes ago, thcosh said:

so do you think that this dentist is correct ? but he should have told me before removing it ?

 

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Isn't your post about a problem under the crown?  If so, they would say nothing as they will in most cases drill on it to break it to gain access to the problem.

They cannot magically remove it with pliers without changing the integrity of the crown.

 

Edited January 29, 2021 by bkk6060

[thcosh]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

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Isn't your post about a problem under the crown?  If so, they will in most cases drill on it to break it to gain access to the problem.

They cannot magically remove it with pliers without changing the integrity of the crown.

 

 

yes but as he knows that his customers are not dentists, he should know that he has to inform before doing anything that costs 12000+ ?

 

[soi3eddie]

 

Crowns are are very precise fit with feather edges and contoured to the tooth underneath. The seal needs to be perfect. Any removal and work on the tooth below would render it useless. This was one I had fitted in Bangkok 2 years ago. Cost 16,000 Baht IIRC. Good job and no further problems. Went for gold because it lasts longer with less chance of renewal or replacement needed. 

 

[Sheryl]

As above. Often do have to break a crown to remove it.

 

12000 is a very good price for a crown. 

[trevor67]

I just paid 6000b for a crown here in Pattaya. Everyone I talk to here says they paid 6k to 8k.

[shdmn]

I just had some crown work done.  They told me the cement is permanent.  So they are not designed to be taken off without most likely breaking them.  Also, there are at least 3 or 4 different types of crowns.  I got all gold ones which are the best and most expensive and they were a lot more than 12000b. 

 

6000b are probably the cheapest ones which a few dentists told me are garbage for a variety of reasons.  I don't think the 12000b one are that great either but it depends which teeth they are for.  

Edited January 30, 2021 by shdmn

[Sheryl]

Over the yearsI have had many crowns  typical cost 18-20k. That is for good quality of course.

[thcosh]

21 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Over the yearsI have had many crowns  typical cost 18-20k. That is for good quality of course.

never seen anywhere so high prices.

my dentists is called dentistator, one of the most famous and expensive in Pattaya worked 20 years in USA, using top quality, and it's 12000 a crown, so you are clearly cheated by the countryside dentist that you meet...

 

 

[lopburi3]

18 minutes ago, thcosh said:

never seen anywhere so high prices.

my dentists is called dentistator, one of the most famous and expensive in Pattaya worked 20 years in USA, using top quality, and it's 12000 a crown, so you are clearly cheated by the countryside dentist that you meet...

 

 

And I by the Bangkok dentists that I use - a high gold porcelain crown can easily run over 20k - yes non gold are a lot cheaper but fit may not be a good causing leakage and a new procedure faster.  But nothing is for sure for sure.

[Sheryl]

2 hours ago, thcosh said:

never seen anywhere so high prices.

my dentists is called dentistator, one of the most famous and expensive in Pattaya worked 20 years in USA, using top quality, and it's 12000 a crown, so you are clearly cheated by the countryside dentist that you meet...

 

 

Not countryside . Bangkok.

 

But government hospital in countryside costs not much less.

[KarenBravo]

The temporary crown used whilst the final crown is being made is glued down with a glue that allows the temporary crown to be prized off. The final crown is glued down with permanent glue. No chance of getting it off without breaking it if there is a problem underneath.

If it can be removed without damage, then it could come off at anytime. Would you want that to happen if you are far away from a dentist?

[Pib]

Crown pricing will vary depending on the type material to make the crown.  And when gold is used there is also varying percentages of gold which will cause price variation.    Like below crown pricing snapshot from a dental clinic in Bangkok.

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

On 1/29/2021 at 1:41 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

On 1/29/2021 at 1:10 PM, thcosh said:

 

NO way to get a crown off without breaking it,

This has always been the case for me.. just had one done recently... I can't imagine how they can work underneath the crown w/o breaking it... though the dentist should have informed you first... mine did... and since there was gold involved, he gave me the crown to take home... 12k for a porcelain crown sounds fair.. 

[jkcjag]

On 1/29/2021 at 1:10 PM, thcosh said:

hello, dentist broke the crown when removing it and I have to pay for a new one, is it always the case ?

Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

Please confirm your experience ? and tell me if 12000 for a crown is the correct price ? thanks guys.

19000 to 24000 at a top dentist...that’s just for the crown, not for any other issues undertaken before crown prep...prices reducing from there on depending on the standard of service required.

Even if the crown is removed without breaking it then after treating the issue underneath, for which I presume the crown was removed, the chances of the old crown fitting the repaired foundation underneath is remote. A new mould would be required.

[1FinickyOne]

On 1/31/2021 at 12:45 PM, thcosh said:

you are clearly cheated

I also paid more than that but gold is much better and more expensive... if you can afford it, probably worth it. 

 

I did have the choice of a cheaper crown but my dentist explained why gold is better. 

Edited February 1, 2021 by 1FinickyOne

[solafr]

So, some people pay 12000 for a good crown and some pay 20000 for the same thing ?

Not very surprising actually...

 

[kingdong]

On 1/29/2021 at 9:16 AM, bkk6060 said:

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Isn't your post about a problem under the crown?  If so, they would say nothing as they will in most cases drill on it to break it to gain access to the problem.

They cannot magically remove it with pliers without changing the integrity of the crown.

 

If a crown was easily removeable it would probably fall out a week after fitting,crowns are supposed to be permanent fixtures.a crown on the nhs( you have to pay towards dental treatment unless on benefit in the ponces paradise of the uk ) will cost you £270.

[Pib]

19 minutes ago, solafr said:

So, some people pay 12000 for a good crown and some pay 20000 for the same thing ?

Not very surprising actually...

 

Quoting crowns prices without being specific on the type/the exact material/alloy makeup of the crown will result in wide price differences because people are basically talking apples and oranges.    It's kinda like one person saying I bought a car for 12,000 and another person saying they paid 20,000 theirs....but neither detailed engine size, options, electronics, seats, transmission, etc., of the car they bought. 

[shdmn]

On 1/30/2021 at 9:45 PM, thcosh said:

never seen anywhere so high prices.

my dentists is called dentistator, one of the most famous and expensive in Pattaya worked 20 years in USA, using top quality, and it's 12000 a crown, so you are clearly cheated by the countryside dentist that you meet...

 

 

All dentists get the crowns from the same handful of labs.  Even if they have their own lab it's probably not going to be cheaper, just faster and more convenient.  They cost what they cost and there are at least 5 different types.  There probably isn't that much markup. I have googled around and I can get similar prices on crowns and implants in the US as I can in Thailand for the same type/quality,  so I think most of it is material costs. 

 

All dentists get the crowns from the same handful of labs.  Even if they have their own lab it's probably not going to be cheaper, just faster and more convenient.   I can pretty much guarantee you a 12000b crown is not going to be the same type and quality as a 20000b crown.  Right now gold prices are high so gold crowns are more expensive than before.  The dentist does not have any control over that.

Edited February 1, 2021 by shdmn

[DavisH]

On 1/31/2021 at 12:45 PM, thcosh said:

never seen anywhere so high prices.

my dentists is called dentistator, one of the most famous and expensive in Pattaya worked 20 years in USA, using top quality, and it's 12000 a crown, so you are clearly cheated by the countryside dentist that you meet...

 

 

The price depends on the gold content. High gold crowns are recommended for high impact teeth like molars. Mine cost 16000, but th max price was 18000. No gold was 8,000. 12,000 MAY be an ok price but depends mainly on the gold content. 

Old crowns generally need to be cut off - and they can take a while to get off (mine did, at least). My tooth was bad and I ended up ectrcting it and getting an implant instead, just a couple of months ago that got finished. 

[Pib]

Also keep in mind for gold crowns you can sell them for the gold content.  My wife has had a couple of gold-content crowns replaced over the last decade.  There are companies who come to Thai dentist offices, take the crown back to their company to determine gold content and amount to be paid...then the company provides the money back to the dentist office who in turn provide you the money.   Comes with a receipt from the company that bought the gold crown and how much they paid.    Don't ask me how much was paid as I can't remember exactly as the last crown sold was around 5 years ago, but it was several thousand baht per crown....the wife always had the high gold content crowns as they are supposedly stronger/provide longer lasting protection for the tooth since they can be more closely molded to fit the tooth exactly as compared to a not-so-malleable material. 

[mtls2005]

On 1/29/2021 at 1:10 PM, thcosh said:

hello, dentist broke the crown when removing it and I have to pay for a new one, is it always the case ?

Removing tooth crown without breaking it ? possible ? or when treating a problem under crown we always need to pay for a new one ?

Please confirm your experience ? and tell me if 12000 for a crown is the correct price ? thanks guys.

 

Obviously this should be discussed PRIOR to any work being done.

 

My best guess is that there is very little chance that the crown could be re-applied (if it could be removed undamaged), assuming even minor "work" being required on the base.

 

In all honesty the dentist should have stipulated all potential outcomes and the potential costs associated with these outcomes.

 

Is this the same dentist or clinic who first applied the crown?

 

Costs/prices vary, difficult to compare but 12,000 for a new crown (incl. all work: prep, temp crown, etc.) seems quite reasonable. Going out for the lowest-price bid on a crown is probably not the best approach?

 

 

[seajae]

my crown came off the other week due to the partial tooth under it breaking down, came off clean with no damage. Went to the dentist, they removed the partial tooth(800 baht) and I go back next week to have an extra rtooth added to my partial denture, price quoted was 2000 baht but I was under the impression that included the extraction. If the dentist broke the crown they should replace it free of charge as it is their fault.