Reporting to Immigration within 24 hours of returning from another province

[Isaanman]

My family and I just returned Saturday evening from a 3-day trip to Phi Phi Island (beautiful---hardly a soul there!). Entering Krabi Province from further South, they were stopping all cars and taking temps of all passengers and applying hand sanitizer; I'm not sure if they recorded our vehicle license plate number or not. The hotel in Phi Phi took our temps everyday and made each one of us register online with the Thai government (I think it was krabi.go.th) with details about our stay, passport numbers, phone numbers, etc.  We passed through many check points through 3 provinces on our return trip South, but were not stopped at any of them. 

 

Having registered online, I think I have no choice but to report to my local IO today that we have returned home. Questions:

1) Do all members of my family have to go to the IO?  

2) Do I need to fill out a TM30 with a photocopy of all our passports, visa, and departure cards like I need to for a 90-day report?  

3) Do I have to take a photocopy of my landlord's house registration, our rental agreement, his signed Thai ID, etc? 

 

I have not needed to do this before since Thai immigration starting enforcing this more strictly in 2019 and I am not exactly sure about all of the specifics that what we need to do. Thanks. ???? 

[ubonjoe]

A report pf staying in another province for more than 24 hours has not been required since February of 2020 and since June of 2020 a TM30 report is is nor required unless you change your address.

[Tanoshi]

As above.

A TM30 is no longer required if you return from a holiday in another Province, or even if you return from a trip abroad if returning to the same registered address.

It is now only required if you permanently move to a new address.

[Isaanman]

Awesome! I totally did not know that! Thanks, gentlemen. ????

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, Isaanman said:

I am not exactly sure about all of the specifics that what we need to do. Thanks. ???? 

 

As above have said, plus you need to spend more time on TVF, having a life can be boring, not jealous at all ????

 

[Saltire]

Not consistently true advice I'm afraid.

 

Be careful, my office still insists on reporting back from a trip outside the province, I ask at every visit and they are still insistant I do a new TM30.

 

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, Saltire said:

Be careful, my office still insists on reporting back from a trip outside the province, I ask at every visit and they are still insistant I do a new TM30.

The probably say yes due to you asking about it.

Immigration issued 2 new regulations last year. One for address reporting and TM30 reports.

If they ask for one they are not following the new regulations.

[jackdd]

11 minutes ago, Saltire said:

Not consistently true advice I'm afraid.

 

Be careful, my office still insists on reporting back from a trip outside the province, I ask at every visit and they are still insistant I do a new TM30.

Stop asking about it and just don't do it, most likely they wouldn't try to fine you.

[condobrit001]

3 hours ago, Isaanman said:

 

2) Do I need to fill out a TM30 with a photocopy of all our passports, visa, and departure cards like I need to for a 90-day report?  

 

 

 

Unless the rules have changed, no document copies are required for 90 day reporting in person, just passport with previous report and completed TM47. Am I correct?

[Pattaya Spotter]

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

A report pf staying in another province for more than 24 hours has not been required since February of 2020 and since June of 2020 a TM30 report is is nor required unless you change your address.

And neither were ever required by the immigration office in Jomtien/Pattaya.

[hotandsticky]

3 hours ago, jackdd said:

Stop asking about it and just don't do it, most likely they wouldn't try to fine you.

 

 

 

....... and they wouldn't even know - or care.

[Seeall]

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The probably say yes due to you asking about it.

Immigration issued 2 new regulations last year. One for address reporting and TM30 reports.

If they ask for one they are not following the new regulations.

Watch the falang jump lol...

[solafr]

don't you get enough supporting all these stupid rules ?

I have never and will never report anything or anyone ! This is just ridiculous and it's time to stand on pour feet ! They need us more than we need them, and it's time for them to know !

 

[ripstanley]

6 hours ago, condobrit001 said:

Unless the rules have changed, no document copies are required for 90 day reporting in person, just passport with previous report and completed TM47. Am I correct?

It again depends on which office you attend.

[Pilotman]

8 hours ago, Saltire said:

Not consistently true advice I'm afraid.

 

Be careful, my office still insists on reporting back from a trip outside the province, I ask at every visit and they are still insistant I do a new TM30.

 

 

 

 

and some people wonder why very many of us use agents when we have to deal with Immigration, about anything. They are so inconsistent between offices and even between IOs in the same office, and many of them don't even know their own rules 

[Isaanman]

It seems that we, farang, can all get by easily enough without reporting anything. But, will our lack of reporting jeopardize our landlords, if they do not report our return? Here is what I read in a June 2020 Bangkok Post article:

 

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Perhaps, unlike some or many of you, I have a great relationship with my Thai landlord; he has given me a great rental contract in a large, furnished house in a very nice neighborhood. I would not want him to be fined for my lack of reporting. Does anyone know if all this info about our travel throughout the country and registration at various hotels ever makes it into a common system that all immigration personnel have access to and actually look up when they process our 90-day reports, visa extensions, etc.?  Or, is all this, again, a case-by-case situation, depending on the IO, the officers you talk to, and their mood for the day? 

[ubonjoe]

35 minutes ago, Isaanman said:

It seems that we, farang, can all get by easily enough without reporting anything. But, will our lack of reporting jeopardize our landlords, if they do not report our return? Here is what I read in a June 2020 Bangkok Post article

Links and quotes of Bangkok Post articles are not allowed. (see number 26 here https://forum.thaivisa.com/terms/)

I doubt very much that your landlord will get into trouble for you not doing the reports yourself. Somebody would have to report them for not doing it. Immigration in reality only enforces the requirement for hotels and etc.

[Isaanman]

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Links and quotes of Bangkok Post articles are not allowed.

Sorry, I was unaware of this rule. ???? 

 

Yeah, I was not concerned about anyone on the outside reporting me or my landlord; I doubt anyone would give a rip anyways. But, I was concerned that folks at immigration would know from details of my registration with krabi.go.th that I had been away and, therefore, could possibly fine my landlord for being negligent in reporting my return.    

[Salerno]

13 hours ago, solafr said:

They need us more than we need them

 

The sad thing is, I have no doubt you actually believe that.

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, Isaanman said:

But, I was concerned that folks at immigration would know from details of my registration with krabi.go.th that I had been away and, therefore, could possibly fine my landlord for being negligent in reporting my return. 

Under the new regulations the owner, possessor or head of household is only required to do a TM30 report when you first arrive at the residence and that was probably done long ago. The regulations really changed nothing since the immigration act already states that is the only time they have to do the report.

[Tanoshi]

13 hours ago, solafr said:

They need us more than we need them, and it's time for them to know !

You can close the door on your way out......and nobody would notice!

[1cosmo]

I have lived in Chiang Mai for many years, but will now be in Bangkok for a couple of months, until I permanently leave Thailand. I forgot all about this TM30 thing. So if I understand correctly, it was up to the hotel where I am staying to take care of the TM 30 reporting for me?