Record sexual consent with an app, Australian police chief suggests

[ChipButty]

Record sexual consent with an app, Australian police chief suggests

So we should start putting together a wish list for this app What would you call it?

An Australian police chief has suggested a phone app could be developed to document sexual consent as a way to improve conviction rates for sex crime cases.
New South Wales state police commissioner Mick Muller said dating apps have brought couples together and the same technology could also provide clarity on the question of consent.

https://news.sky.com/story/record-sexual-consent-with-an-app-australian-police-chief-suggests-12249336

[ezzra]

What's next i wonder? smile and say hello with an app consent? stupid times we live in...

[ChipButty]

We need a list of questions for the App,

Was a condom used? "Yes" or "No"

Edited March 20, 2021 by ChipButty

[Olmate]

8 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

We need a list of questions for the App,

Was a condom used? "Yes"

Should be mandatory for all female staffers in Scomo,s vicinity it seems.

[Ventenio]

I was in the middle of the nasty......and I said, "wait, did we check this off?"

scrolled down, check, sent, she went to her car and got her phone.  scroll down, check.  called a third-party, seminar, check.  fingerprint, check. notarized, check.

then i wasn't into any more....so we had to null the contract..... scrolled down, uncheck.....etc...

[Old Croc]

If they don't update the app is it automatically considered rape?

[ChipButty]

It would have to cover Threesomes 

[UncleMhee]

ScoMo's fingerprints are all over this........ Good ol' Mick is his neighbour; takes out his bins and is getting parachuted into a safe seat next election. 

[donnacha]

All an app proves is that, at a certain point in the evening, things were consensual. Things can change and, indeed, consent can be retracted the following day. A date could claim she was pressured into it, or that the guy got her drunk. The mere existence of such apps should send guys running, in terror, away from dates and towards Pornhub.

What mostly happens these days is that young guys set their phone to audio record the entire date.

Typically, if someone decides to later lie about what happened, they will mischaracterize much of what transpired once you were both alone. You see that in a lot of reports in which, say, a male celebrity dates a female who later claims the entire evening was problematic, and that she repeatedly made it clear that she was uncomfortable, but he pressured her to stay etc, while he remembers a pleasant, consensual evening.

A good example would be the 2018 sexual misconduct allegation against Aziz Ansari, the first Asian American actor to win Emmys and Golden Globes, that torpedoed his career. It pretty much boiled down to an awkward date with a journalist who expressed her discomfit by giving him repeated blowjobs but, in the Uber on the way home, decided that she regretted it.

If an accuser makes a sworn statement - or, indeed, writes an article - that contains a load of totally fabricated details, you would simply have to send her side a copy of the recording and they would immediately retract the whole thing, regardless of what the laws regarding concealed recording are in that state.

Even in cases where the accuser arguably has a case, the overwhelming tendency of humans is to embellish. In particular, women will often claim to have said something that they didn't actually say, but which they feel the guy should have known they felt. Lawyers learn, very early, that if your client gets caught on some small lie, it is almost impossible to salvage the case, even if the fundamentals are true.

 

Edited March 20, 2021 by donnacha

[Salerno]

4 minutes ago, donnacha said:

What mostly happens these days is that young guys set their phone to audio record the entire date.

Of course they do ...

[donnacha]

1 minute ago, Salerno said:

Of course they do ...

I clearly don't mean all dates, this would be dates with someone you don't know all that well, and it would be the age group who have grown up using their phones for everything, including getting the dates.

Are you saying that they don't do this?

You might not understand how heavily it is drummed into young American men that their life can be flushed down the toilet by one false accusation.

 

[Olmate]

1 minute ago, donnacha said:

I clearly don't mean all dates, this would be dates with someone you don't know all that well, and it would be the age group who have grown up using their phones for everything, including getting the dates.

Are you saying that they don't do this?

You might not understand how heavily it is drummed into young American men that their life can be flushed down the toilet by one false accusation.

 

That’s great for American guys in Oz then!

[donnacha]

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

That’s great for American guys in Oz then!

From what I've heard, Australia is rapidly catching up with the US in terms of woke lunacy.

[Peterw42]

There is a "curb your enthusiasm" episode that covers this

 

[Salerno]

2 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Are you saying that they don't do this?

I'm saying I've never heard of anything so preposterous and that it certainly sounds like exaggerated BS to claim "What mostly happens these days...". In certain jurisdictions around the world doing so can in fact be illegal without consent including various US States; see https://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations (about as romantic as the dumb proposition in the OP).

If it's so common I'm sure you can provide some links to news articles about it.

[rumak]

Money...... Food........ Sex......... Covid ....... Social media

This is the mind control of modern life. 

Nature,  healthy bodies,  critical thinking,  ethics,   honesty ,  simple pleasures...............

These are the casualties

Edited March 20, 2021 by rumak

[donnacha]

5 minutes ago, Salerno said:

I'm saying I've never heard of anything so preposterous and that it certainly sounds like exaggerated BS to claim "What mostly happens these days...". In certain jurisdictions around the world doing so can in fact be illegal without consent including various US States; see https://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations (about as romantic as the dumb proposition in the OP).

If it's so common I'm sure you can provide some links to news articles about it.

Dude, if you are genuinely unable to believe that young guys in America would use the device that is always in their pocket to give themselves at least some level of protection, then you are so disconnected from modern culture that nothing I can say could help you.

So, no, I won't do your googling for you.

 

[CharlieH]

A glimps of the future, perhaps they werent far off with this.........5555

 

 

[Lacessit]

I don't know what the answer is. I do know I've never had sex with a female that was unwilling, with the exception of my former wife who regarded it as a duty. I didn't discover that little gem until after the wedding.

[donnacha]

13 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

There is a "curb your enthusiasm" episode that covers this

Damn. Now I can't helping envisaging @Salerno as Larry David.

[tonray]

Couldn't we just provide every partner with a QR code activated chastity belt. That way the only way you're getting in is if she/he scans you first, implying consent.

[WineOh]

it's only a matter of time before all this nonsense is mandatory throughout the western world. 

soon you will have to have the woman sign a legal affidavit before going in for a kiss.

Thank god none of this will catch on in the east! (at least not in my lifetime.) 

 

[CharlieH]

Its always going to ultimately come down to "word against word" no matter what device etc you put in the middle. 

[ChipButty]

13 minutes ago, tonray said:

Couldn't we just provide every partner with a QR code activated chastity belt. That way the only way you're getting in is if she/he scans you first, implying consent.

Not a good idea, if hackers get into the QR code they could decide not to unlock it

[tonray]

23 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Not a good idea, if hackers get into the QR code they could decide not to unlock it

Although the potential is limitless...I imagine a ThaiChana "Barfine" app coming soon

[NCC1701A]

2 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Record sexual consent with an app, Australian police chief suggests

Here in Thailand I record the whole thing. But that's just me. 

[ExpatOilWorker]

2 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

Here in Thailand I record the whole thing. But that's just me. 

In ur case, if she take the 1,000 baht you leave at the night table, that would be proof of consent. 

[ChipButty]

1 hour ago, tonray said:

Although the potential is limitless...I imagine a ThaiChana "Barfine" app coming soon

Already guys are buying lady drinks online I think they are paying through paypal

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

Here in Thailand I record the whole thing. But that's just me. 

Just wondering how many terabytes you are up to.

[tonray]

29 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Already guys are buying lady drinks online I think they are paying through paypal

I'm out of the loop...back in the day it was only cash