Public health minister says Thailand will continue with the use of AstraZeneca vaccine

[Emdog]

I'd be happy to take AZ vaccine if it were available. Advantage of dying from blood clots it's lots quicker than being smothered like a good covid death. Always look on the bright side of death

[Letseng]

13 hours ago, Wiggy said:

Well, they don’t really have much choice with all their eggs in one basket. 

Most countries don't have much choice. Even continental Europe and superpower Germany has no choice. EU put their bet on AZ. Whatever the issue, benefits still outweigh the risk. 

[daveAustin]

20 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

They have to because there's no alternative...all supplies of the "deluxe" Moderna and Pfizer-BionTech vaccines are sold out for the foreseeable future. It's A-Z, Chinese, and Russian (and maybe J&J) vaccines for Thailand.

Lucky them, barring the Chinese and Russian efforts, their lives are saved! Sorry, but you can shove your overpriced Pfizer tat. A thing that is awkward to produce, is expensive and doesn't sit long. All the furor over AZ and blood clots - what was it, one in a million, POTENTIALLY? Neighbour, a nurse, had Pfizer and ended up with horrible neuralgia and a week off work. Give a million any drug, someone will die related or not. What gets me is there is not much dirt on Pfizer. Why is that? Please an knee-jerk, politically motivated, EU-centric replies.

[Cake Monster]

Further to all of this Rhetoric, on Friday Prayut instructed the powers that be , to go procure Vaccines from America and Russia with all urgency

[ParkerN]

21 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Probably he hasn't heard of the new Brazillian mutated Covid.... More infectious specially for the younger people and resistant for the vaccins...

If Sinovac is only effective now for 50% there will be for sure a 4th/5th and 6th wave 

 

"there will be for sure a 4th/5th and 6th wave"

 

As some here have predicted but for a variety of other reasons.

 

This door closed? Find another door. Nature will find a way. And that's a problem for those trying to manage a problem.

 

Edited April 17, 2021 by ParkerN

[thailand49]

No surprise here with the decision! You might be able to fool the Thai people but us from the West can put 2 + 2 together.

 

As if this decision you actually had a choice, the delay has always been the fact as to who or what company is producing the AZ.

 

The other 3 main vaccine has requested approval for close to two months what is the hold up the translation of documents or the lack of understanding of the translation or both?

 

The constant delay is to get closer to the production time line June 1st, even if your intend as I noted was true do the right thing and approved the others to provide more choices and a quicker roll out instead of risking the lives of Thais and everyone else by allowing the virus to get out of control the current problem one only has to look in the mirror!????

[shdmn]

On 4/15/2021 at 5:09 PM, Pattaya Spotter said:

They have to because there's no alternative...all supplies of the "deluxe" Moderna and Pfizer-BionTech vaccines are sold out for the foreseeable future. It's A-Z, Chinese, and Russian (and maybe J&J) vaccines for Thailand.

There is also Novavax coming soon.  It could be approved in the UK any day now.  About as cheap and easy to make as AZ, similar storage requirements.  It's not an adenovirus so should not have blood clot issues.

 

They are selling for profit though so it will be more expensive than AZ.  I think AZ sells for about $3 a shot at cost and Novavax wants to sell theirs for $10 a shot or more.

Edited April 18, 2021 by shdmn

[CharlieH]

Reported post and response removed.

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, shdmn said:

There is also Novavax coming soon.  It could be approved in the UK any day now.  About as cheap and easy to make as AZ, similar storage requirements.  It's not an adenovirus so should not have blood clot issues.

 

They are selling for profit though so it will be more expensive than AZ.  I think AZ sells for about $3 a shot at cost and Novavax wants to sell theirs for $10 a shot or more.

Thailand and other countries are also experimenting with new US influenza flu technology to produce a cheap Covid-19 vaccine using traditional egg vaccine production techniques. (See my post today in the Covid-19 Sub-Forum).

[UWEB]

On 4/16/2021 at 8:21 PM, Letseng said:

Most countries don't have much choice. Even continental Europe and superpower Germany has no choice. EU put their bet on AZ. Whatever the issue, benefits still outweigh the risk. 

Germany is using Biontech and Moderna as a total 179 million shots been ordered compare to AZ  where 56 million shots ordered only.

[Sheryl]

A post with extremely inaccurate information taken from a non-scientific mass media site has been removed. the mass media site seriously twisted what is in the actual article, which was nto on the subject stated.

 

 

 

 

[RR2020]

With the AZ vaccine you get a slightly higher chance of CVT blood clots than with other vaccines.

 

However, with Pfizer and Moderna you get a massively higher chance of PVT blood clots than with the AZ vaccine.

 

 

Strange how the "paid for media" is madly spouting the CVT slightly increase risk, while completely ignoring the massive reduction in PVT risk............. wonder why ?

 

Something to do with AZ vaccine not making profits ?

[Soikhaonoiken]

To continue with AZ vaccine..... 

But Mr Minister you haven't got any to continue with.... 

[Jorgendk]

On 4/16/2021 at 3:40 AM, RichardColeman said:

Going to have to presume a huge rise in the Denmark population end of this year in line with them banning the contraceptive pill for blood clots, no, wait, they haven't.

 

 

Why should they have a rice in Denmark because of that ??
They do not stop the vaccinations.
They merely now youse more safe vaccines instead.
Why use a vaccine with known deadly side effects, when other vaccines are available.

 

[RichardColeman]

15 minutes ago, Jorgendk said:

Why should they have a rice in Denmark because of that ??
They do not stop the vaccinations.
They merely now youse more safe vaccines instead.
Why use a vaccine with known deadly side effects, when other vaccines are available.

 

ALL the vaccines have deadly side effects. Even Pfizer recipients I believe are reporting blood clots.

 

Covid gives you 8 times more chance of blood clot than the vaccine.

 

The point I was making is that blot clots in contraceptive pill is about 1/1000 (proven), blot clots in AZ is about 1/1,000,000 (as yet unproven). 

 

Why not ban the pill and enforce condoms with 0% chance of blot clotting ? 

 

Stopping the use of a 1/1000000 but accepting a 1/1000 risk is just plain political lunacy.