COVID patients who refuse treatment in field hospitals face legal action

[Nismooo]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Would you be happy going to a ‘field facility’ and risking exposure to further variants when mixing with others who have tested positive ????

No but i would have thought about that already and not expose myself in the first place of either going to bars/parties, mixing with people that dont wear masks etc. 

 

So for these people, being forced to field hospitals are fine with me. 

 

For others that got infected without being careless they would isolate at home if they lived alone and would not risk others in that building. Not really sure how they would access food though without any risk. 

 

Not saying this would work at all in real life but in my perfect world it would. ????

Edited April 21, 2021 by Nismooo

[crazykopite]

Looking at the picture that is the very last place I would want to be for a start there is not one mechanical breathing machine to be seen and there is more chance of being infected worse than when you went in if I felt I had the symptoms I might just take myself to bed as I live on my own and hope I come out of it okay there not field hospitals they are a huge tent with beds in them . In Europe you only go to hospital if you are in severe danger not because you have tested positive have the Thai authorities learnt nothing over the past 16 months .

[mike1967]

Surely this is the best way to keep the figures down? Make sure people don't want to get tested. No positive results, no Covid....job done!!! 

[internationalism]

convert Krystal club to a field hospital and do offer them those "private rooms" for 10k/day, with hookers dressed in nurse uniforms thrown each for each of them

[window]

1 hour ago, Kaopad999 said:

This really angers me.

I wonder what their reasons were for refusing.. Thinking that they're above the law, or what? 

If someone is asymptomatic why shouldn't they be allowed to stay at home? it frees up beds for people that actually need them.

 

[crazykopite]

35 minutes ago, Nismooo said:

No but i would have thought about that already and not expose myself in the first place of either going to bars/parties, mixing with people that dont wear masks etc. 

 

So for these people, being forced to field hospitals are fine with me. 

 

For others that got infected without being careless they would isolate at home if they lived alone and would not risk others in that building. Not really sure how they would access food though without any risk. 

 

Not saying this would work at all in real life but in my perfect world it would. ????

Sorry but you talk through your nether regions you don’t have to go to a bar or entertainment venue to get exposed it could happen in your local 7 / 11 no place i or person is immune from this virus the government have had 15 months to plan the worst scenario they e done sweet FA just spewed out verbal diarrhoea every day hoping the general public would swallow it they would rather spend the money on getting high speed trains from the Chinese ruling party they need to wake up before they end up like Brazil or India with 1,000s of deaths e en the Thai crematoriums couldn’t cope 

Edited April 21, 2021 by crazykopite

[Kaopad999]

39 minutes ago, MikeyIdea said:

 

The Thai government knows very well that the majority have no symptoms, they have for a very long time. Following their strategy with targeted testing, I don't think any asymptomatic who has been near an identified risk or in a risk area is being refused.

 

As you say so, provide evidence please 

It wasn't me who made that statement. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, window said:

If someone is asymptomatic why shouldn't they be allowed to stay at home? it frees up beds for people that actually need them.

 

It's about preventing the spread not about treatment for most infected. The Thai government is going with the Chinese model.

[Kaopad999]

46 minutes ago, Excel said:

Strange you gave me a "sad" when what I said is born out by everyday reports, here and elsewhere and has been the case for centuries.  Still I suppose, live in cave and you see very little.

Eh?
My response with a sad face literally meant i find it a sad state of affair that these people can get away  with what they want based on their wealth. 
I think you misunderstood my response.. 

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Kaopad999 said:

This really angers me.

I wonder what their reasons were for refusing.. Thinking that they're above the law, or what? 

They view it the same as some of the TV forum members do, they can do what they want and isolate themselves at home until they need treatment, if they need treatment.  As I have said before Thailand does it this way for a reason, and unfortunately you have to abide by their rules.  As many have seen the Thais do things their own ways, ergo the little ghosts and then those that just flew to Narathiwat knowing they were infected.  I understand the concerns some have, but whom else are you possibly infecting, Look at the gentleman who they never transported from his home like they were supposed to and he ended up infecting his family....Please just do what is needed, I would hate to be stuck in a field hospital, but if I was told to go and transported to one I would ride out the time there.

[Nismooo]

14 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Sorry but you talk through your nether regions you don’t have to go to a bar or entertainment venue to get exposed it could happen in your local 7 / 11 no place is place or person is immune from this virus the government have had 15 months to plan the worst scenario they e done sweet FA just spewed out verbal diarrhoea every day hoping the general public would swallow it they would rather spend the money on getting high speed trains from the Chinese ruling party they need to wake up before they end up like Brazil or India with 1,000s of deaths e en the Thai crematoriums couldn’t cope 

That was a very long sentence...

 

Did you even read the last half of what i wrote? 

 

I agree the virus is everywhere and not only in entertainment areas. My point was that there are a huge diffrence between a person that intentionally ignore covid health advice and put others at risk and those who follow regulations but got infected anyway. 

 

I would have more confidence in a infected person that follows regulations to really isolate themselves at home.

 

I would not trust a covid denier/anti mask person for one second to isolate at home. 

Edited April 21, 2021 by Nismooo

[Satcommlee]

They will set the fine at 50K or something. more than affordable get out for some.

[MrMo]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I would also refuse treatment at one of those field hospitals.... 

 

I believe for those who are asymptomatic that isolating at home is more than sufficient. However, I also understand the government make the rules and I have to comply whether I like them or not. 

 

Thus: I would choose to go to a more comfortable hospital.... either pay myself or ‘try’ and get my insurance to pay for it.

 

There is another thread running which indicates insurance may not pay for ‘unnecessary hospitalisation’ for someone who’s tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 but shows no symptoms.

 

Thus: IF in the unlikely event that I have to take a Covid-19 test (i.e. because Wife was exposed in a Supermarket etc), and IF I test positive and am expected to isolate in a ‘field facility’ I would claim a headache, tight chest etc and ensure my Dr signs off on medically necessary treatment so that my insurance will provide cover. 

 

 

 

 

Are there private hospitals accepting "Positives" ?   Hate to think what the charge would be.

[Kaopad999]

21 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Looking at the picture that is the very last place I would want to be for a start there is not one mechanical breathing machine to be seen and there is more chance of being infected worse than when you went in if I felt I had the symptoms I might just take myself to bed 

I'm sure if you started developing severe symptoms, then they would rush you to  a proper equipped  hospital.

I think they know that the majority of symptoms are not that severe, so  i think  it makes sense  saving space for emergency treatment in the main hospitals.





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[Kaopad999]

1 minute ago, MrMo said:

Are there private hospitals accepting "Positives" ?   Hate to think what the charge would be.

100k + maybe? 

[Excel]

17 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

Eh?
My response with a sad face literally meant i find it a sad state of affair that these people can get away  with what they want based on their wealth. 
I think you misunderstood my response.. 

Apologies, I did totally misunderstand that, good we are on the same page.

[Kaopad999]

Just now, Excel said:

Apologies, I did totally misunderstand that, good we are on the same page.

ha ha no probs ????

[condobrit001]

It seems to me that the the pictured field hospital is somewhat lacking in many areas, and I can understand the reluctance of some to spend two weeks in such a facility. However, if the authorities would consider a few improvements, this reluctance could be overcome. With the addition of night stands, cable tv, air conditioning, mini bar, reading lamp, and en-suite bathrooms for each bed conditions could be signicantly improved. Until this happens I will continue to live on the steps of my local 7-11 should I get infected.

[ukrules]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Thus: I would choose to go to a more comfortable hospital.... either pay myself or ‘try’ and get my insurance to pay for it.

That does indeed appear to be the situation here - the answer was 'NO' - you go to a field hospital.

 

You're not paying, your not going to a private hospital or hotel - only a field hospital. there doesn't appear to be any choice - and that's a problem.

 

If I test positive for COVID at some point I will check into a luxury spa for a couple of weeks no problem but I certainly won't be sitting in a large prison camp with 100's of other infected people breathing COVID into my face 24/7.

 

They had better get this sorted out, anyone with a brain knows that being confined with the ill is not a good idea.

 

 

 

[Excel]

1 minute ago, condobrit001 said:

It seems to me that the the pictured field hospital is somewhat lacking in many areas, and I can understand the reluctance of some to spend two weeks in such a facility. However, if the authorities would consider a few improvements, this reluctance could be overcome. With the addition of night stands, cable tv, air conditioning, mini bar, reading lamp, and en-suite bathrooms for each bed conditions could be significantly improved. Until this happens I will continue to live on the steps of my local 7-11 should I get infected.

Perhaps also providing personal butler services for the ladies and provocatively dressed maids for the gents.

[pokerface1]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

For asymptomatic people there is no reason to isolate anywhere other than at home (and the whole household isolates)

I think your dreaming mate. people just don't care enough about others and after a couple of days at home they will go out and spread it. The authorities know this behavior is endemic as they see it in the way people drive on the roads. I wish people could be trusted to stay at home but sadly they won't.  

[Nismooo]

9 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

I think your dreaming mate. people just don't care enough about others and after a couple of days at home they will go out and spread it. The authorities know this behavior is endemic as they see it in the way people drive on the roads. I wish people could be trusted to stay at home but sadly they won't.  

Totally agree with this.

[fleccer]

12 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

I think your dreaming mate. people just don't care enough about others and after a couple of days at home they will go out and spread it. The authorities know this behavior is endemic as they see it in the way people drive on the roads. I wish people could be trusted to stay at home but sadly they won't.  

So is it right to intern them in these concentration camps? I hope it never happens to you or your family.

[FitnessHealthTravel]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

were from so-called ‘high-so’ families

Really... You have to be a high-so not to stay in that beautiful establishment?  True Thai High-So's wouldn't have been anywhere near a place like that or even tested in that area...probably relations of Politicians.

[NVass]

Sounds fine making a policy that everyone goes to a field hospital.

So who will look after our Kids and Animals if me and my wife and I were to get Covid! Nobody wants to come and look after them if it means staying in a house where someone was sick!

This hasn't been thought through properly where dependents are involved!

 

[pokerface1]

1 minute ago, fleccer said:

So is it right to intern them in these concentration camps? I hope it never happens to you or your family.

You missed the main point of my comment please read again slowly.

[Deli]

Didn't the guys in charge have enough time ( 13 months ) to prepare better for a case like this ? Rather talked about useless projects like space programs, submarines, high speed trains and WTH else...

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

So then what is the point in having field hospitals at all then? 
Surely the point being is so that general hospitals don't run out of beds?

More importantly to stop patients in hospital for other reasons contracting corona.

[fleccer]

4 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

You missed the main point of my comment please read again slowly.

You're right I'm sorry.  However, what I have written remains valid for those who applaud this shame

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Meanwhile, Sanook reported that most of the patients who have refused treatment are from the cluster discovered at nightlife venues in Thonglor, Bangkok.

"Do you know who I am?"