9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why don't you ask?

 

Nothing wrong with AZ more chance of being struck by lightening than get a clot.

 

yet I still try to avoid standing near trees that attract lightning when there is a thunderstorm

5 hours ago, petedk said:

Still no confirmation as to whether foreigners are included in the program or not. 

 

I was counting on paying for the vaccine.

 

Foreigners in Thailand will be included in the government's vaccine program. They've confirmed that several times now.  What hasn't been spelled out is the details of when, how, etc...  Although in all likelihood, the government shots for foreigners are going to be the locally produced AZ vaccine.

 

Another confirmation of that again today:

 

 

 

2 hours ago, grandpa said:

Sorry to disillusion you, but people who have been vaccinated are still capable of carrying and transmitting the virus!

 

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210203-why-vaccinated-people-may-still-be-able-to-spread-covid-19

The risk of catching or transmitting the virus is greatly reduced after full vaccination. No, it's not 100% effective. But it's huge.

11 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

and I want only Pfizer or Moderna.

 

I wonder if they will dispense blood thinner with the AZ jab

Before I got my first AZ Jab I read an article that recommended drinking plenty of water prior as it helps to thin the blood. I did and had not side effects. 

3 minutes ago, Derek B said:

They could export it to other countries in the region at cost 

 

The Thai government has taken the view that blood clots are not a major problem with the AZ vaccine. And yes, they are planning to produce enough to offer to export their AZ vaccines to other countries in the region.

7 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

yet I still try to avoid standing near trees that attract lightning when there is a thunderstorm

Careful then as  Pfizer has also been linked to some blood clot issues. And of course J&J. Your options could be dwindling

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

After six straight days of 2,000+ new COVID case reports in Thailand, the nation finally broke below that with a 7 percent decline to only 1,871 new cases on Thursday, and a decline in new deaths to 10 versus 15 in each of the two prior days.

 

Thursday's tally, the second consecutive daily decline in new cases, was a considerable improvement from the daily peak of 2,839 new cases that Thailand reported on April 24, and even from the 2,012 reported Wednesday. Not all was good news, though, as the country's number of COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition has kept rising to 786, up 91 patients from the 695 tally on Wednesday, and has more than doubled in the past week.

 

The lowered tally of new daily COVID cases in Thailand’s third and worst coronavirus wave that erupted at the start of April came as government officials Thursday afternoon were set to announce whether they are going to expand closure orders for Bangkok and several other high case-count provinces beyond the restrictions already imposed earlier this month.

 

Thailand has now recorded 63,570 official COVID cases and 188 reported deaths since the start of the worldwide pandemic in early 2020. Those stats are relatively better than many other countries, but the Southeast Asian nation also has been lagging behind others with a slow pace of COVID vaccinations that thus far has seen less than 2 percent of its population get their protective shots.

 

In one other update, a government spokesman said 73 of Thailand's 77 provinces have issued orders requiring people to wear protective face masks when in indoor or outdoor public places. And 12 provinces, not including Bangkok, are urging their residents to stay home at night and in the overnight hours to help prevent the spread of the virus.

 

How about the 100s in the market every evening. 

3 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

But what's the chance of catching Covid in Thailand? Currently about 0.09%. By taking AZ you've already confirmed your risk of AZ blood clots, so additional risk

Blood clotting is caused by a prexisting genetic susceptibility to clotting and can occur at anytime not just by immunization!

Just now, Paul Kernell said:

How about the 100s in the market every evening. 

 

I've always taken the locally reported numbers as more of a barometer of whether the outbreak is getting worse or better -- as opposed to a realistic measurement of the actual real volume  of cases.

 

Well there goes my plan to pay for my wife’s vaccine so we can travel freely... This waffling on policy amazes me.... Who cares how people get the vaccine as long as they get it, the sooner the better!! Sad....

 

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

 

Are the "patients" locked in their rooms?

 

 Not sure about literally, but in effect, yes.

 

Some quarantine hotel places have provisions, under controlled circumstances and times, to let people get out for some solo fresh air or brief exercise if they have some contained outdoors area.

31 minutes ago, chilly07 said:

Blood clotting is caused by a prexisting genetic susceptibility to clotting and can occur at anytime not just by immunization!

Sorry, but all the AZ blood clot victims I've read abut never had blood clots before AZ. Also, AZ blood clots seem to be in the brain which killed them, not like normal dvt in the legs which many people may have had

 

 

Re Astrazeneca Vaccine:

76% vaccine efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19

100% efficacy against severe or critical disease and hospitalisation

85% efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 in participants aged 65 years and over

Source: https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2021/azd1222-us-phase-iii-primary-analysis-confirms-safety-and-efficacy.html

 

Sincerely 

 

MORRIS 

I can see there's some money to be had here.

 

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[Breaking] Thailand’s CCSA proposes returning to 14 day quarantine for all foreign arrivals regardless of status/vaccination. If approved, begins next month.

A post containing a graphic but no weblink to its source has been removed, along with several replies.  Any such posts need to contain a weblink pointing to the original source of the information, and the source must be credible.

 

6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

12 provinces, not including Bangkok, are urging their residents to stay home at night and in the overnight hours to help prevent the spread of the virus.

 

Can someone, anyone, explain why it is more dangerous to go out at night than during the day? Has any scientist, or any medical official of any kind, said that the virus is more contagious at night?

4 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Can someone, anyone, explain why it is more dangerous to go out at night than during the day? Has any scientist, or any medical official of any kind, said that the virus is more contagious at night?

Thai youths tend to gather in numbers outside 7/11s at night.

Looks like it's back to 14 days quarantine for incoming international arrivals with Certificates of Entry issued on or after May 1. The quarantine had been 10 days just for the month of April, before now reverting to the prior duration.

 

During an afternoon news conference, a government spokesman confirmed that the new 14 day quarantine rule will also apply to incoming travelers even if they have already been vaccinated for COVID, if they're received their Certificate of Entry on or after May 1.

 

The government spokesman explained the decision, saying officials want to do as much as possible to prevent new and potentially more infectious strains of the coronavirus from entering the country, and also to limit any further impact to Thai health care facilities that already are straining under the current outbreak.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/posts/4214256491931066

 

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The Ministry of Public Health today issued this analysis of the believed sources of infection for Thailand's COVID outbreak in April, saying the kind of information below will be used to shape "some new measures, some updated measures [that] will be discussed" later today at the afternoon CCSA meeting, a government spokesman said.

 

The above table is a bit confusing. Top item "close contact with infected people"; All the others (apart from imported cases) down the table are the same, but these are describing the places where they were also "in close contact with other people".

 

So what was the source(s) of all those (the greatest percentage of the total) in the top item when they became in infected?.

Question: During 2020, it seemed like people here in Thailand were only being tested if they were physically sick. As we all know, some people can have covid, but be asymptomatic. I had quite a few personal friends in the US that tested positive, but never showed symptoms, and even more friends who thought they may have had it, but stayed at home, and never went to the doctor.
So, my question is .... Are they now testing a bigger volume of people who aren't showing symptoms? Or just people who are sick? 

6 hours ago, Pauliewall said:

Anecdotally of course, but all the locals I've spoken to here say they wouldn't take the AZ vaccine but have no opinion on the Sinovac vaccine. It's funny, most foreigners I have spoken to have the opposite opinion. 

That's because they heard about the AstraZenica on the news and don't know !@#$ all about the other ones .

5 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Are you sure? Now 3 people dead in Australia just after AZ vaccination? This is from 1 million jabs and they were aged 48, 55 and 71 and yet AZ supposed to be safe for over 50

 

At that rate if they vaccinated 63 million in Thailand with AZ, they could have 189 deaths, which is sadly more than the current Covid deaths

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/apr/29/australia-two-nsw-men-die-after-receiving-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine

 

 

What makes them think that those three deaths are a result of being vaccinated? They might have died anyway, without having the vaccine?

 

The UK has seen a dramatic fall in covid deaths since vaccination started a few months back. At one point 1000 people per day died from covid in the UK. Yesterday they had under 20 deaths and they are barely even half way through right now. Even if there is solid proof that the AZ vaccine kills a very small percentage of people (there isnt), surely that is better than 30,000 people per month dying?

 

There is a far greater chance of dying during child birth than there is taking the AZ vaccine, but no one is insisting we all immediatley stop shagging. Asprin kills more people than the covid vaccine - why havent we been complaining about that for the last god knows how many years?  You can buy asprin from a petrol station for gods sake.

 

The UK is starting to shine again now. Spirits are lifted. People are venturing out for a beer, mooching around garden centers, even wembley had fans for the recent league cup final. Summer holidays are being booked and plans are being made. This is mostly down to the AZ vaccine. If (and its a big if) a few people out of every million must die from taking the vaccine, so be it. The alternative is to lockdown the country again and watch hospitals fill up with covid patients.

Also, looks like they're going to ban sit-down restaurant dining in BKK and five other provinces -- Chonburi, Chiang Mai, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani and Samut Prakan -- even though the MoPH's info found that restaurants were a relatively minor source of COVID spreading.

 

A government spokesman said the six provinces were being singled out for additional restrictions because they'd had higher levels of reported COVID cases, running 100 or more per day. Many of the control measures listed below had already been in effect in Bangkok, though the ban on dine-in eating was the main new restriction.

 

The spokesman also noted that the requirement for residents to wear protective face masks when in indoors or outdoors public places was now being made nationwide, after the rule had already been enacted by 73 of the country's 77 provinces.

 

The spokesman also clarified that the new rules will take effect at midnight tomorrow/Friday, heading into the early hours of Saturday morning.

 

From the announcement:

 

"The government is also asking all private and public sectors to allow their staff to work from home for another 14 days.

People from the maximum controlled areas or red zones are encourage to not leave their province if unnecessary.

The measures will be in effect from 1 May 2021 onwards."

 

Note: I added the red circle highlight sections to the charts for emphasis.

 

 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157982115457050

 

Earlier today, the MoPH had the following chart:

 

 

 

Today's announcement extends an already existing series of nationwide COVID control measures the government imposed in mid-April (listed below), and then applies more stringent restrictions to Bangkok and the other five provinces.

 

3 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

The above table is a bit confusing. Top item "close contact with infected people"; All the others (apart from imported cases) down the table are the same, but these are describing the places where they were also "in close contact with other people".

 

So what was the source(s) of all those (the greatest percentage of the total) in the top item when they became in infected?.

 

I think they generally meant it to mean family contacts, things in the home setting.

6 hours ago, gunderhill said:

Most  informed  people would take either as they greatly reduce the risk of DEATH

On Tuesday I had Jab #1, (Astravenica)no sore injection site, no headache no negatives at all, I am 74 and will receive second Jab in July.i am currently  in Australia. 

The government has informed the Thai Chamber of Commerce that it has sourced enough vaccines to meet the requirement of every citizens, therefore the private sector does not need to buy any additional vaccines.”

 

I do trust hospitals who import vaccins on their own more!

On the subject of the changing international arrivals quarantine rules, The Nation reports further:

 

14-day quarantine mandatory for all arrivals in Thailand from May

 

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) announced on Thursday that all arrivals from overseas will be required to complete their 14-day mandatory quarantine regardless of their vaccination status or nationality.

 

The CCSA said the 14-day mandatory quarantine will also apply to all those who hold a certificate of entry (COE) issued on or after May 1. Travellers who hold a COE that was issued before May 1 and who arrive before May 6 will be quarantined for seven to 10 days depending on their inoculation status. People arriving after May 6 will be quarantined for 14 days.

 

Travellers checking into alternative state quarantine venues will be required to stay inside their rooms at all times. They will not be allowed to use any facilities the hotel may offer and are required to undergo three Covid tests during the quarantine period.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40000374

 

7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I think they generally meant it to mean family contacts, things in the home setting.

Yes, maybe, (but why should we have to guess?) while I was writing I did think of that but that title is more appropriate as a total and those below should be a breakdown. Just about all infections are about close contact with others.

7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

After six straight days of 2,000+ new COVID case reports in Thailand, the nation finally broke below that with a 7 percent decline to only 1,871 new cases on Thursday, and a decline in new deaths to 10 versus 15 in each of the two prior days.

 

Thursday's tally, the second consecutive daily decline in new cases, was a considerable improvement from the daily peak of 2,839 new cases that Thailand reported on April 24, and even from the 2,012 reported Wednesday. Not all was good news, though, as the country's number of COVID patients hospitalized in critical condition has kept rising to 786, up 91 patients from the 695 tally on Wednesday, and has more than doubled in the past week.

 

The lowered tally of new daily COVID cases in Thailand’s third and worst coronavirus wave that erupted at the start of April came as government officials Thursday afternoon were set to announce whether they are going to expand closure orders for Bangkok and several other high case-count provinces beyond the restrictions already imposed earlier this month.

 

Thailand has now recorded 63,570 official COVID cases and 188 reported deaths since the start of the worldwide pandemic in early 2020. Those stats are relatively better than many other countries, but the Southeast Asian nation also has been lagging behind others with a slow pace of COVID vaccinations that thus far has seen less than 2 percent of its population get their protective shots.

 

In one other update, a government spokesman said 73 of Thailand's 77 provinces have issued orders requiring people to wear protective face masks when in indoor or outdoor public places. And 12 provinces, not including Bangkok, are urging their residents to stay home at night and in the overnight hours to help prevent the spread of the virus.

 

I think the daily tally has dropped a bit because of a drop in testing, many people don't want to go to hospital or have a stay in a field hospital. Looking at the scenes over the last week or so many are shying away from the health authorities.

This is having an affect on infection numbers.

7 hours ago, webfact said:

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand on Thursday reported 1,871 new coronavirus cases, bringing the country's total number of confirmed infections to 63,570 since the pandemic began last year.

It’s so obvious the figure comes down now the prime minister is in charge. ????