Been offered Pfizer and Astra Zeneca?

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

simply read the gold standard independent SOURCE DATA;

namely the usa fda trial reports which cover everything you need to know

basically :-

all western vax are (sufficiently/ medically) safe

having near or actual (AZ) 100% prevention of death or hospitalization

blood clots etc would have happened with or without vax....

any actual vax link to post- jab deaths (unproved) is around one in 3 million odds....... 

no vaccines are without the usual mild temporary side effects......fda report gives worst case

dont think you must mix different vax......

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35 minutes ago, Sundown said:

Those who make trillions with the vaccine and pandemic. Including those bloomberg , the economist and other bs newspapers that just push what they are paid for. Wonder why the best of the best jab is from a company backed by Bill Gates? The same company whose stocks rose 10x during the Pandemic. Of course, it was not planned. Just Bill happened to make trillions investing in a pharma company and the biggest pandemic hit. Oh, this guy must be very lucky...

 

To stay in topic, there is no best jab. Of course the western sources will tell you that their jab is better. Really? Two elderly relatives of mines in Europe took the Pfizer and both were seriously sick up to one week with fever and cramps. But they were never sick even when they caught the virus. 

 

 

They made trillions? Really? If you're going to make paranoid allegations, try to keep them slightly  believable.

[Kiujunn]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

They made trillions? Really? If you're going to make paranoid allegations, try to keep them slightly  believable.

He wrote  "make", present tense, not "made".

Trump and Biden printed roughly 3trn.

EU, Japan...

Somebody received or is receiving this money, so yes, somebody makes trillions. Of course,  its not one person. Jeff, for instance,  made just .1trn, really nothing to write home about.

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, Sundown said:

Those who make trillions with the vaccine and pandemic. Including those bloomberg , the economist and other bs newspapers that just push what they are paid for. Wonder why the best of the best jab is from a company backed by Bill Gates? The same company whose stocks rose 10x during the Pandemic. Of course, it was not planned. Just Bill happened to make trillions investing in a pharma company and the biggest pandemic hit. Oh, this guy must be very lucky...

 

To stay in topic, there is no best jab. Of course the western sources will tell you that their jab is better. Really? Two elderly relatives of mines in Europe took the Pfizer and both were seriously sick up to one week with fever and cramps. But they were never sick even when they caught the virus. 

 

 

You've really drank the conspiracy theory kool-aid!  Stunning.  Guessing you're not aware of Bill Gates efforts to create better vaccinations.  Thanks to him, we got great jabs out quickly.  Congrats to Bill Gates.

 

You're not telling the truth that they never got sick when catching the virus.  If they never got sick, how did they know?  Right....porkie.

[Jeffr2]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

They made trillions? Really? If you're going to make paranoid allegations, try to keep them slightly  believable.

Like the Economist media outlet made trillions.  Incredible troll post. LOL

[CharlieH]

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4 hours ago, friendofthai said:

Saving millions of lives is much more important than punishing a single bad man. Because we should always remember the N1 rule in China and Russia.

Sure it is.

Vaccine Scandals in China: Why Do They Keep Happening Over and Over Again?

https://www.asiapacific.ca/blog/vaccine-scandals-china-why-do-they-keep-happening-over-and

 

And I guess the reason these scandals kept on occurring is because the Chinese govt. cares so much about its people.

[treetops]

11 hours ago, melovethai said:

It has always been recommended not to mix doses

 

That was due to no trials having been performed for mixed jabs, and the recommendations for use being made on what was proven from the trials (similar to the time period between jabs).  Now there are trials going on that prove what virologists thought and mixing jabs (and having a longer gap between jabs) appears to give the best results.

[codemonkey]

Check this data before proceeding with your decision.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html?

PS: ignore advise from the thaivisa "resident experts", the majority of which are not qualified to advise nor should they be purporting to be. Totally irresponsible by anyone doing so here!

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1 hour ago, codemonkey said:

Check this data before proceeding with your decision.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html?

PS: ignore advise from the thaivisa "resident experts", the majority of which are not qualified to advise nor should they be purporting to be. Totally irresponsible by anyone doing so here!

If someone is giving advice contrary to what public health officials recommend, then yes. If not, no.

[codemonkey]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

If someone is giving advice contrary to what public health officials recommend, then yes. If not, no.

Since there are no public health officials here, especially the "resident" liberal alternate reality promoters, including you then your statements are pointless and intellectually incoherent. Please stand down and be humble.

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1 hour ago, codemonkey said:

Since there are no public health officials here, especially the "resident" liberal alternate reality promoters, including you then your statements are pointless and intellectually incoherent. Please stand down and be humble.

Do you mean as in here on Thai visa? So the advice of public health others not posting on thaivisa.com is invalid or not relevant. Does that also go for scientists who don't post here? Is there something about members of thaivisa.com that makes them biologically different from other humans? I have long suspected that some posters here are extraterrestrials, so for them you may have a point. Otherwise, not so much.

[Ireland32]

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