Popular Post WaveHunter Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hyna said: Because, instead of staying put in Thailand as a sitting duck for the virus, you can do what many Thais (and TVF members) do: fly to the US and get vaccinated. Do you really think that is a viable solution; to leave a county that is still one of the safest places to be right now for an unvaccinated person (based on active cases per capitas) and expose yourself to high risk of infection while travelling? That's not to mention that many expats can ill afford the high cost of travel, lodging for weeks while waiting for the second jab, and the high costs of being quarantined. Think about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, WaveHunter said: I am going by the press announcement which was only released yesterday. The CCSA announcements for the last two weeks have also emphasized that foreigners may register ON OR AFTER JUNE 7th. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that means NOT BEFORE June 7. It can often be explained, which is totally different from the fact they understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveHunter Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tanoshi said: It can often be explained, which is totally different from the fact they understand it. Not really sure what that even means ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonthaburi Boy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 So if the 7 June date is for those in greatest need (good) I am thinking for those of us healthy and under 60, it might be around 14 June that we can start registering? Not going to chase around any more until then as I really do not need the added stress and, to be honest, until a few weeks ago (it’s the hope that kills you) I expected it would be August earliest that I got vaccinated. It’s now looking like I will beat my own prediction. Plus (and okay I am squinting to see the glass half-full here, but it seems likely to be true) the longer I have to wait compared to others the more likely I am able to avoid Sinovac’s low effectiveness . Tiny, tiny victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 24 minutes ago, WaveHunter said: Do you really think that is a viable solution; to leave a county that is still one of the safest places to be right now for an unvaccinated person (based on active cases per capitas) and expose yourself to high risk of infection while travelling? Bangkok is not safe anymore. Many, if not most places in the US and Europe have less cases per capita. Dr Opas said the disease cannot be contained in Thailand if it cannot be contained in Bangkok. Once it reaches Nakhorn Nowhere, good luck. Look who is going to the US for vaccinations, including which TVF members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyna Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Nonthaburi Boy said: 14 June Which year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromas Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, WaveHunter said: Why be so pessimistic...this announcement is actually good news, not bad news? Why not just wait a few days and see what actually happens instead of just assuming the worst I quoted the website. It is what it is. As for assuming the worst, perhaps you read a bit too much into my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonthaburi Boy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, Hyna said: Which year? Haha…. Don’t mess with my bliss! Actually my initial, initial expectation was January 2022…. things are really looking up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 The wife registered me for the 9th on the mor prom weeks ago with my pink card ,just checked and they confirmed my jab ,more than likely astr zenica,fingers crossed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, WaveHunter said: Not really sure what that even means ??? The CCSA can broadcast their daily information, that doesn't mean all those that watch it will understand it. Obviously some don't. 1 hour ago, WaveHunter said: Furthermore, the CCSA announcements for the last two weeks have also emphasized that foreigners may register ON OR AFTER JUNE 7th. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that means NOT BEFORE June 7. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveHunter Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tanoshi said: The CCSA can broadcast their daily information, that doesn't mean all those that watch it will understand it. Obviously some don't. ???? I think the CCSA briefings are valuable on the whole but the Spokesman, Natapanu Nopakun, even though he is an excellent speaker, has a penchant for making statements that sometimes leave so much to the imagination, that understanding what he meant can be confusing. Often I think the briefings are more of a "happy face" type thing intended to put a positive spin on things nobody yet has a definitive answer for. I don't think they are being deceptive or disingenuous, just intentionally vague at times so that they are not accused of misinformation. Overall though, if you watch these briefings daily, you can see that genuine progress is being made, and we are not intentionally being misled...just confused as hell. But this is Thailand, they have their own way of doing things I guess. Edited June 3, 2021 by WaveHunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, WaveHunter said: he chaos and danger of infection with all those people in queue for hours on end is not a good solution I agree, but the registration system is a shambles and doesn't work, as the 5,000 who queued for 7 hours at Pattaya Stadium last week will testify. They had all registered and all had queue positions, that in the event were meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WaveHunter Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Pilotman said: I agree, but the registration system is a shambles and doesn't work, as the 5,000 who queued for 7 hours at Pattaya Stadium last week will testify. They had all registered and all had queue positions, that in the event were meaningless. The idea of in-person, on-site registration is doomed to failure before it even starts. The concept is a bad one as anyone who has queued for hours at Immigration can attest. The idea of jamming thousands of people together during a pandemic is sheer lunacy. Online registration is really the only scheme that makes sense at all. Hopefully they have some really smart, experienced IT people working to assure that the system works without quirks. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do this; online merchants do it effectively all the time! That's really all that's required, and the urgency of getting it right couldn't be any higher. Hopefully they will get it right with online registration! Edited June 3, 2021 by WaveHunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Fromas said: By you? No. On the website? Yes. Right. June 7 is just 4 days away. The website should have updated information by now with the June 7 registration information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, newnative said: Right. June 7 is just 4 days away. The website should have updated information by now with the June 7 registration information. Which website are you referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tanoshi said: Which website are you referring to. Thailandintervac.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, newnative said: Thailandintervac.com Never heard of it until you mentioned it. ThailandIntervac.com : The Office of International Cooperation, Department of Disease Control ,Ministry of Public Health Thailand "The vaccination appointment through this website is for embassy staff, consulates, international organizations and their families only. If you are identified that you are not the aforementioned staff, the vaccination appointment will be canceled. Please present the employee card at the registration site." Edited June 3, 2021 by Tanoshi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Just now, Tanoshi said: Never heard of it until just now. ThailandIntervac.com : The Office of International Cooperation, Department of Disease Control ,Ministry of Public Health Thailand "The vaccination appointment through this website is for embassy staff, consulates, international organizations and their families only. If you are identified that you are not the aforementioned staff, the vaccination appointment will be canceled. Please present the employee card at the registration site." Page up and get caught up. That's what we've been talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoshi Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, newnative said: Page up and get caught up. That's what we've been talking about. Some Thai official said ......... Not what the website says. Believe it when you see it, otherwise take it with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, WaveHunter said: The idea of in-person, on-site registration is doomed to failure before it even starts. The concept is a bad one as anyone who has queued for hours at Immigration can attest. The idea of jamming thousands of people together during a pandemic is sheer lunacy. Couldn't agree more. Not holding up AU as the gold standard. Far from it. They had their issues with rollout. Below is from messenger chat form friend couple weeks back. I asked if she had the jab. Personally I wouldn't go near an on-site registration joint. Especially in Bangkok. I intend to remain on island until it's available in private hospitals. Hopefully October. The agent guys were slow on this. Surely they could have had service to get an appointment. Edited June 3, 2021 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 36 minutes ago, newnative said: Page up and get caught up. That's what we've been talking about. I registered before and they send SMS and Email with an apology and that general public registration will be available again from 5 or 6 June. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, WaveHunter said: The idea of in-person, on-site registration is doomed to failure before it even starts. The concept is a bad one as anyone who has queued for hours at Immigration can attest. The idea of jamming thousands of people together during a pandemic is sheer lunacy. Online registration is really the only scheme that makes sense at all. Hopefully they have some really smart, experienced IT people working to assure that the system works without quirks. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do this; online merchants do it effectively all the time! That's really all that's required, and the urgency of getting it right couldn't be any higher. Hopefully they will get it right with online registration! Yet Thai immigration hasn't bothered to create an online queue system since years. Not even during the pandemic they could be rushed to do so. Instead they let those poor staff there work OT daily until 7 or 8pm. Just get that, even if you just want to ask someone in person at the German Embassy, you need to book a timeslot for an appointment. No phone calls, no walk-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 3:57 PM, scubascuba3 said: Hands up who wants the Chinese one? So you would maybe prefer J&J? Now lets see. J&J were one of the biggest financial winners in the US opiate pandemic by supplying opium for Oxycontin and other brands leading to 47,000 deaths and 1.7 million substance abuse disorders in 2017 alone. J&J was also caught out having asbestos in its baby powder (yes BABY powder) and shrugged it off by saying yes we knew it was there but we didnt put in there?? I dont care what shot I have coz I can always have a top up later if needed but I will be doing a quick runner if they are handing out free blankets at the same time lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, WaveHunter said: Hopefully they have some really smart, experienced IT people working to assure that the system works without quirks. That sentence did make me laugh. but you are right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaveHunter Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 18 hours ago, CLW said: Yet Thai immigration hasn't bothered to create an online queue system since years. Not even during the pandemic they could be rushed to do so. Instead they let those poor staff there work OT daily until 7 or 8pm. Just get that, even if you just want to ask someone in person at the German Embassy, you need to book a timeslot for an appointment. No phone calls, no walk-ins. In all fairness, they provide an online option for 90 day reporting. Unfortunately it has been rife with technical issues for its' entire life. Much of what Immigration does could be handled online if they would just get competent IT people to set up the server properly. It's not rocket science; many online merchants do it successfully. To me, it's just a big mystery why Thai government websites are so poorly done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamster Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 23 hours ago, bert bloggs said: The wife registered me for the 9th on the mor prom weeks ago with my pink card ,just checked and they confirmed my jab ,more than likely astr zenica,fingers crossed Wait until they see you.........Cannot !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert bloggs Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 20 hours ago, fulhamster said: Wait until they see you.........Cannot !! They know i am a falang said more than likely astra zenica,fingers crossed,private hospital by the way,registered there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulhamster Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, bert bloggs said: They know i am a falang said more than likely astra zenica,fingers crossed,private hospital by the way,registered there Maybe... Perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyx2rr Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) On 6/3/2021 at 5:53 PM, CLW said: Yet Thai immigration hasn't bothered to create an online queue system since years. Not even during the pandemic they could be rushed to do so. Instead they let those poor staff there work OT daily until 7 or 8pm. Just get that, even if you just want to ask someone in person at the German Embassy, you need to book a timeslot for an appointment. No phone calls, no walk-ins. I've used the QueQ phone app for my last several appointments at the Chonburi immigration office. You can book an appointment on a specific day and time up to a week ahead. You just show up to the office, click "confirm" on your appointment notice in the app and your queue number pops up in the app. I then walk past the 30-50 people in the queue waiting outside in the heat who haven't made a prior appointment online, show the staff my queue number on my phone and walk straight to the appropriate immigration counter. No waiting in lines outside, minimized time spent inside in the crowded immigration counter area. The app certainly doesn't solve the problem that you've pointed out for the office staff and the long walk in queues that they deal with every day, you make a very good point, but it does make the appointment process very efficient and easy for foreigners who use it. Edited June 5, 2021 by heyx2rr adding photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberpond Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Until now I still don't have the faintest idea how this going work. I don't know how/where to register, I don't know how/when I will get vaccinated. Vimut straight out told me not to go there on 7th June. All these online registering, I wonder is it a scam to collect my details like passport number, phone, email, DOB, etc to resold for marketing/scam purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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