Popular Post webfact Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 File photo: A woman from Klong Toey community receives coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccine, in Bangkok, Thailand, May 4, 2021. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun Thailand on Wednesday (June 2) reported 3,440 new COVID-19 cases and 38 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. ● 2,353 new infections ● 1,087 prison / prison infections Wednesday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 165,462 with 1,107 deaths. The news comes as the first 14 batches of AstraZeneca vaccine, produced by Thai pharmaceutical company Siam Bioscience, have passed the quality tests of the Thai Department of Medical Sciences. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-06-02 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 There isn’t enough testing. The vaccination program is all screwed up. Something must be wrong with the numbers. The prison system is horrible. Hopefully, I just saved 100 redundant posts. 8 1 4 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing. The vaccination program is all screwed up. Something must be wrong with the numbers. The prison system is horrible. Hopefully, I just saved 100 redundant posts. Great on your way then, ta ta 4 1 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) Since the numbers should be stable until the next weekend dump, the question is what they represent, are these the results of testing in clusters, or is the overall positivity rate in Bangkok rising? Similarly, are the northern provinces closing in on 0, or are there new clusters away from Bangkok? Chonburi is clearly improving, despite the Doom and Gloomers claiming the discovery of 2 factory clusters last week meant that Chonburi was in prolonged spike. From last Saturday: “Chonburi is getting WORSE now, not better. During 10-19 May, the average daily number of cases in Chonburi was 51. From 20-29 May, the average daily number of cases was 71. That's a 39% increase. Wouldn't have happened without the enormous Songkran policy error.” As always, the number of hospital walk-ins is a significant factor (the blue bars). Edited June 2, 2021 by Danderman123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 day rolling........... https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post AndyFoxy Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Since the numbers should be stable until the next weekend dump, the question is what they represent, are these the results of testing in clusters, or is the overall positivity rate in Bangkok rising? Similarly, are the northern provinces closing in on 0, or are there new clusters away from Bangkok? Chonburi is clearly improving, despite the Doom and Gloomers claiming the discovery of 2 factory clusters last week meant that Chonburi was in prolonged spike. From last Saturday: “Chonburi is getting WORSE now, not better. During 10-19 May, the average daily number of cases in Chonburi was 51. From 20-29 May, the average daily number of cases was 71. That's a 39% increase. Wouldn't have happened without the enormous Songkran policy error.” As always, the number of hospital walk-ins is a significant factor (the blue bars). What a redundant post. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing. The vaccination program is all screwed up. Something must be wrong with the numbers. The prison system is horrible. Hopefully, I just saved 100 redundant posts. You forgot about the 'weekend effect' and the infatuation of forecasting Thailand's move up the world rankings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phills2k1 Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing. The vaccination program is all screwed up. Something must be wrong with the numbers. The prison system is horrible. Hopefully, I just saved 100 redundant posts. I see what you did there!!! If everything is so redundant, then why do you continue to waste your time posting in here? Is it just so you can use clever phrases like doom and gloomers and doomsayers? Or is it so that you can say things are "clearly improving" and then when the numbers don't support this within a few days, you tell us that we're happy that people are getting and sick / dying? 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing. The vaccination program is all screwed up. Something must be wrong with the numbers. The prison system is horrible. Hopefully, I just saved 100 redundant posts. Yes, you saved 100 posts of you denying the facts? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 28 May: 3,759 - 34 dead 29 May: 4,803 - 34 dead 30 May: 4,528 - 24 dead 31 May: 5,485 - 19 dead 1 June: 2,230 - 38 dead 2 June: 3,440 - 38 dead <— TODAY https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1399896553632849926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phills2k1 Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Susco said: Yes, you saved 100 posts of you denying the facts? The psychology of those who never grow out of the "everybody is wrong but me" mentality is truly something to behold 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 good to see yesterday's thread locked front page was very misleading at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phills2k1 Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Bkk Brian said: 28 May: 3,759 - 34 dead 29 May: 4,803 - 34 dead 30 May: 4,528 - 24 dead 31 May: 5,485 - 19 dead 1 June: 2,230 - 38 dead 2 June: 3,440 - 38 dead <— TODAY https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1399896553632849926 Which way do you think he goes? "Compared to places like India, Brazil and the US, we should be celebrating those 38" or "38 in back to back days means things have stabilized"? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Since the numbers should be stable until the next weekend dump, the question is what they represent, are these the results of testing in clusters, or is the overall positivity rate in Bangkok rising? Similarly, are the northern provinces closing in on 0, or are there new clusters away from Bangkok? Chonburi is clearly improving, despite the Doom and Gloomers claiming the discovery of 2 factory clusters last week meant that Chonburi was in prolonged spike. From last Saturday: “Chonburi is getting WORSE now, not better. During 10-19 May, the average daily number of cases in Chonburi was 51. From 20-29 May, the average daily number of cases was 71. That's a 39% increase. Wouldn't have happened without the enormous Songkran policy error.” As always, the number of hospital walk-ins is a significant factor (the blue bars). The questions in your first paragraph. they can’t be answered because there isn’t enough testing, which makes the numbers screwed up. The vaccination program is terrible so provincial spread may happen, but you can’t tell because there isn’t enough testing, meaning that the numbers are screwed up. redundant you say? Edited June 2, 2021 by wensiensheng 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: What a redundant post. why are you still reading this ##### post - put him on ignore and then let him talk with himself 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Back to the standard daily. I would be interested to know exactly what variants are being detected. A strain of the Indian variant now in Victoria is being described as stranger to stranger or fleeting contact transmission. This is why face masks (properly worn) are so important. It is also why real mass testing is so important. Over 140,000 tests in Victoria in the last few days. Six days into a circuit breaking lockdown but more cases are being found with 6 reported today totalling 67 so a lockdown extension is on the cards. They want to stop transmission. Interestingly the UK recorded zero deaths yesterday but the Indian variant is on the move at the same time they want to open things up. Watch this space. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said: What a redundant post. as is yours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Back to the standard daily. I would be interested to know exactly what variants are being detected. A strain of the Indian variant now in Victoria is being described as stranger to stranger or fleeting contact transmission. This is why face masks (properly worn) are so important. It is also why real mass testing is so important. Over 140,000 tests in Victoria in the last few days. Six days into a circuit breaking lockdown but more cases are being found with 6 reported today totalling 67 so a lockdown extension is on the cards. They want to stop transmission. Interestingly the UK recorded zero deaths yesterday but the Indian variant is on the move at the same time they want to open things up. Watch this space. Yes.melb extended by 7 days 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Back to the standard daily. I would be interested to know exactly what variants are being detected. A strain of the Indian variant now in Victoria is being described as stranger to stranger or fleeting contact transmission. This is why face masks (properly worn) are so important. It is also why real mass testing is so important. Over 140,000 tests in Victoria in the last few days. Six days into a circuit breaking lockdown but more cases are being found with 6 reported today totalling 67 so a lockdown extension is on the cards. They want to stop transmission. Interestingly the UK recorded zero deaths yesterday but the Indian variant is on the move at the same time they want to open things up. Watch this space. Agreed. Things are becoming more complicated now. The old reporting of cases, deaths, cumulatively and daily isn’t really detailed enough. I notice in the UK reporting there is constant reference to types of Covid and which area it is in. Good to know if traveling around or living in one of those areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 seems there is a new varient on the loose discovered in Vietnam recently - just saying There was also a report from Australia about spread in quarantine hotels this thing changes very rapidly - it's like fighting a war - maybe it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Interestingly the UK recorded zero deaths yesterday but the Indian variant is on the move at the same time they want to open things up. Not Scotland.... There was mention that current vaccinations are being effective against that variant.... Yes recent numbers are climbing (infection numbers and hospital admissions), but 0 deaths is a heartening number, if only for a day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhatsNext Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) Testing isn't really needed, just take the age of the daily deaths and multiply by the IFR (Infection fatality rate) for that age group. Say we have 1 death of a 42 year old , according to the table below there is a 0,068% chance of dying at that age if you are infected. 100/0.068*1= 1470 infected within that age group One 82 year old person dying from covid is however 12 infected on average within that age group Table : Table 3 | Assessing the age specificity of infection fatality rates for COVID-19: systematic review, meta-analysis, and public policy implications | SpringerLink Edited June 2, 2021 by WhatsNext 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, jacko45k said: Not Scotland.... There was mention that current vaccinations are being effective against that variant.... Yes recent numbers are climbing (infection numbers and hospital admissions), but 0 deaths is a heartening number, if only for a day also worth noting that the hospital admissions in the UK are primarily from those that refuse to be vaccinated 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, sungod said: You forgot about the 'weekend effect' and the infatuation of forecasting Thailand's move up the world rankings. The world rankings are are good indicator on how countries are handling the pandemic. Note present not past tense so weekly trends are important. Thailand is now in the top 20 worse perfoming countries in the world NOW, not overall since the beginning. That will soon be the top 80. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted June 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 minute ago, smedly said: also worth noting that the hospital admissions in the UK are primarily from those that refuse to be vaccinated Well dig a little deeper and we might find the Indian variant is rife in the Indian communities in the UK, and prior, there was low take up of vaccination there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, smedly said: seems there is a new varient on the loose discovered in Vietnam recently - just saying There was also a report from Australia about spread in quarantine hotels this thing changes very rapidly - it's like fighting a war - maybe it is Interesting to note that according to Dr Wasun this new strain Indian and Uk hybrid may have been caused by just one person getting infected with both strains. This is a problem for Thailand as we have both here and especially in the bubble and seal clusters where they are all locked in together 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, WhatsNext said: Testing isn't really needed, just take the age of the daily deaths and multiply by the IFR (Infection fatality rate) for that age group. Say we have 1 death of a 42 year old , according to the table below there is a 0,068% chance of dying at that age if you are infected. 100/0.068*1= 1470 infected within that age group One 82 year old person dying from covid is however 12 infected on average within that age group Table : Table 3 | Assessing the age specificity of infection fatality rates for COVID-19: systematic review, meta-analysis, and public policy implications | SpringerLink How does the timing of the death impact your hypothesis? Some people pass away quite quickly, others after a long slow decline. And then there are the ones that just refuse to die. They hang around in hospitals for ages and recover. And annoyingly, some people don’t even show symptoms. i have a feeling testing might be with us for some time yet, despite the obvious mathematically based answer. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 15 minutes ago, DavisH said: as is yours.... as is yours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Interesting to note that according to Dr Wasun this new strain Indian and Uk hybrid may have been caused by just one person getting infected with both strains. This is a problem for Thailand as we have both here and especially in the bubble and seal clusters where they are all locked in together Alpha, Bkk Brian, alpha. And delta. And presumably now delpha with this new hybrid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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