law ling Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 To get to the bottom of this third surge, and despite all the contact tracing, etc, we are never told what percentage of the infected are aliens (or Thais) who have snuck in (without quarantine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Surely if they test positive then they will already be pregnant so no need to get the contraceptive pill? Anyway not really any need to rant as it takes two tests to confirm a case. Hence why males having babies is kept at a minimum ???? Correct, they need the morning after pill of see a gynecologist to have that rear end lobotomy Edited June 3, 2021 by ThailandRyan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Of the 50 active clusters in Bangkok, 17 were found in worker camps, 14 around markets & shopping centres, 10 in crowded communities & residential areas, six at businesses & factories, two at care homes and one at an embassy. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1400329463871664130 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, mortenaa said: The question is, do the restrictions do anything for infections? Infections happen at home or at the workplace. Masks and social distancing doesn't work for an airborne virus. There is absolutely no correlation. People walking around in nature with masks on. Makes absolutely no sense at all. The virus kills one in 50,000 people under 50. Vaccinate the vulnerable, and let us get on with our lives. You’ll get no argument from me on the concept of vaccinate and then move on. It’s the way it pretty much HAS to be. There’s no other end game in the frame. on restrictions, well overall it’s a concept that most countries have used to varying degrees. And with varying levels of compliance. Quite a wide range of views on their effectiveness, probably no need to rehash the arguments for and against, eh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Nah, someone said earlier that if someone drowns it's pneumonia.Just using his logic. You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here. Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here. Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand. Snarky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 5 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: What does CCSA actually stand for? Canoodling China sucks ar......................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, huangnon said: "Simple common sense" might indicate Covid. It might also indicate other coronaviruses such as influenza, a severe cold, pneumonia, pleurisy, emphysema, or a whole host of other pulmonary diseases. A PCR-test set over >35 cycles will record all of these diseases (plus long-dormant particles from any number of viruses you may have contracted in the past). See pages "Limitations" 39-40 of the attached file from the CDC: Common sense is not as common as previously thought. EUA-CDC-Panel-IFU.pdf 2.56 MB · 0 downloads Nope. You have introduced the standard CDC guidance in order to create doubt about RT-PCR tests. That's like a Flat Earther introducing a GPS information pamphlet as proof the Earth is flat. PCR Tests have a high degree of reliability. Not perfect, but very good. Of course, RT-PCR tests cannot detect other diseases, so it cannot rule out syphilis or whatever else the patient might have. PCR Tests detect the Covid-19 virus specifically. The test does not respond to the cold virus, or other diseases. You are simply spreading misinformation now. Edited June 3, 2021 by Danderman123 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Canoodling China sucks ar......................... Czar Controlled Strategic Anarchy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rott Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: That's like a Flat Earther introducing a GPS information pamphlet as proof the Earth is flat. PCR Tests have a high degree of reliability. Not perfect, but very good. Of course, RT-PCR tests cannot detect other diseases, so it cannot rule out syphilis or whatever else the patient might have. PCR Tests detect the Covid-19 virus specifically. The test does not respond to the cold virus, or other diseases. You are simply spreading misinformation now. They "prove" that the earth is flat by saying, if it was round that would mean the Mississippi flows uphill. They cannot be told any differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: #COVID19 update in #Thailand on Thursday: Since 1 April 2021 140,485 people infected (+49 imported cases & +3,837 local cases) 1,052 dead +39 49,998 in care 1,208 in ICU & 373 on ventilators 3,626 discharged from care https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1400324878692098050 I'm starting to wonder if only Thais are being included in the death numbers and not foreign workers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: You appear to have missed the point I was making about logic not applying to business closures rather the closures being focused mainly on the restriction of alcohol. Never mind. FYI I am off the drink at the moment and working out daily, making the absolute best of the situation while the opportunity is there. Then something good came from it. For me i stopped working out when gyms closed. Now my home gym has moved to new place so working out too. Just keep it up when bars open up again. I am still amazed at people who don't seem to get that alcohol is a drug a social lubricant that makes people ignore rules and social distancing. Plus its non essential (restaurants / supermarkets ect are essential). Sure someone taking one beer is not a problem but most people do get drunk or tipsy whatever when that happens all caution and sense goes out of the window. That is normal that is the effect of being drunk / high or whatever. It strange that people still deny this. Also bars were closed in most countries as they all understand that alcohol and rules don't mix. Its hard to enforce rules on drunk people wanting to have fun. Its just impossible. But like everyone I want things to go back to normal 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here. Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand. Death by drowning is death by drowning be it water or vomit. Lungs fill with a liquid and you die. If you are lucky and don't die you might end up getting pneumonia or another type of lung infection. One of the more common conditions that causes fluid in the lungs is pulmonary edema. Left untreated it can result in the person drowning in their own fluids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 National Health Security Office on Wednesday approved compensation of THB400,000 for a 50-year-old Phatum Thani man who died five days after receiving a dose of Covid-19 vaccine. #COVID19 #vaccine #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001631 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, anchadian said: National Health Security Office on Wednesday approved compensation of THB400,000 for a 50-year-old Phatum Thani man who died five days after receiving a dose of Covid-19 vaccine. #COVID19 #vaccine #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001631 This is an admission. Guarantee this was CoronaVac. Chances might be slim of this this happening but "you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk? Love Clint Eastwood's work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Death by drowning is death by drowning be it water or vomit. Lungs fill with a liquid and you die. If you are lucky and don't die you might end up getting pneumonia or another type of lung infection. One of the more common conditions that causes fluid in the lungs is pulmonary edema. Left untreated it can result in the person drowning in their own fluids. Getting back to the point, a diagnosis of pneumonia does not necessarily mean that a fatality died of influenza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Getting back to the point, a diagnosis of pneumonia does not necessarily mean that a fatality died of influenza. I have absolutelty no idea what you're talking about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here. Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand. Try Again https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pneumonia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354204 Pneumonia is an infection that inflames the air sacs in one or both lungs. The air sacs may fill with fluid or pus (purulent material), causing cough with phlegm or pus, fever, chills, and difficulty breathing. A variety of organisms, including bacteria, viruses and fungi, can cause pneumonia 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted June 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Danderman123 said: You seem to relish the effort of creating noise here. Pneumonia simply means fluid in the lungs. There are many ways for fluid to accumulate in the lungs. I am sorry for you if this requires you to use logic to understand. Definition of pneumonia : an acute disease that is marked by inflammation of lung tissue accompanied by infiltration of alveoli and often bronchioles with white blood cells (such as neutrophils) and fibrinous exudate, is characterized by fever, chills, cough, difficulty in breathing, fatigue, chest pain, and reduced lung expansion, and is typically caused by an infectious agent (such as a bacterium, virus, or fungus) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Still community spread in Phuket yet is still open to all in 4 weeks. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-market-linked-to-womans-death/amp?__twitter_impression=true 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Two new COVID-19 clusters found in Bangkok construction worker housing as 3,886 new infections are recorded in Thailand Two new clusters of COVID-19 infections have been found in Bangkok, as 3,886 new infections and 39 more deaths were recorded today (Thursday) in Thailand. On Wednesday, Dr. Apisamai Srirangsan, CCSA assistant spokesperson, said that a new infection cluster had been found ata shopping mall in the Lat Phrao area, but did not name the mall. This prompted Central Plaza, Union Mall and Imperial World, all located on Lat Phrao and adjacent roads, to issue denials that they are the unnamed mall. Today, however, CCSA Spokesman Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin said that they will no longer withhold names of areas or venues with infection clusters, to avoid public confusion, adding that the mall mentioned by Dr. Apisamai is actually HomePro Ekamai-Ramintra, located on Pradit Manutham Road in Lat Phrao district. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-new-covid-19-clusters-found-in-bangkok-construction-worker-housing-as-3886-new-infections-are-recorded-in-thailand/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Another "dramatic drop" in cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, rott said: There are (or were) a lot of bars in Central Pattaya and no reports of any infections. Plenty at markets. Doesn't prove anything, just a fact. So the timelines stating certain bars, nightclubs, published by Chonburi were incorrect. Club Insomnia Pattaya on Walking Street Road on April 7th from midnight to 2:00 A.M.. https://thepattayanews.com/2021/04/13/pattaya-and-banglamung-informs-people-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-confirmed-chonburi-covid-19-cases-2/ People infected with COVID-19 From other entertainment venues: 2.1 Cetus Pattaya, 3 cases 2.2 Bone Pattaya, 1 case 2.3 The Box 69, Pattaya, 3 cases 2.4 Garden 168, amount 3 people 2.5 Insomnia Pattaya, 1 person 2.6 Infinity Siracha, 4 cases 2.7 Replay Bang Saen 3 cases 2.8 Entertainment venues in Bangkok, 4 cases https://thepattayanews.com/2021/04/14/99-new-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-chonburi-today-says-public-health-department/ Edited June 3, 2021 by Petey11 Content and links added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: National Health Security Office on Wednesday approved compensation of THB400,000 for a 50-year-old Phatum Thani man who died five days after receiving a dose of Covid-19 vaccine. #COVID19 #vaccine #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40001631 I suppose this might open the flood gates to claims. Such a payment would never be made in many countries for just that reason. reading the article, it seems that the basis for payment was that he was the sole breadwinner for his family. A hard luck story for sure, but not really anything to do with the vaccine. perhaps the intent of the payment, apart from helping the deceased’s family financially, was to give confidence to Thai people to get vaccinated because their family will be cared for financially if anything goes wrong. I can see the logic, but it feels like an erroneous admission that the vaccine is flawed. I’m not sure that’s a good thing in the long run. anyway, it’s done and the family no doubt feel better. I hope they use the money wisely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Getting back to the point, a diagnosis of pneumonia does not necessarily mean that a fatality died of influenza. If he didn't die of influenza he probably drowned of pneumonia. Edited June 3, 2021 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, anchadian said: Two new COVID-19 clusters found in Bangkok construction worker housing as 3,886 new infections are recorded in Thailand Two new clusters of COVID-19 infections have been found in Bangkok, as 3,886 new infections and 39 more deaths were recorded today (Thursday) in Thailand. On Wednesday, Dr. Apisamai Srirangsan, CCSA assistant spokesperson, said that a new infection cluster had been found ata shopping mall in the Lat Phrao area, but did not name the mall. This prompted Central Plaza, Union Mall and Imperial World, all located on Lat Phrao and adjacent roads, to issue denials that they are the unnamed mall. Today, however, CCSA Spokesman Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin said that they will no longer withhold names of areas or venues with infection clusters, to avoid public confusion, adding that the mall mentioned by Dr. Apisamai is actually HomePro Ekamai-Ramintra, located on Pradit Manutham Road in Lat Phrao district. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-new-covid-19-clusters-found-in-bangkok-construction-worker-housing-as-3886-new-infections-are-recorded-in-thailand/ Not only does it avoid confusion, it’s informative and provides motivation for malls to make sure that they follow strict protocols to avoid Covid infections, that might effect their business. singapore has been VERY detailed about locations of infections from the very start and I think it’s a good thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Still community spread in Phuket yet is still open to all in 4 weeks. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-market-linked-to-womans-death/amp?__twitter_impression=true Indeed. Markets are unhygienic at the best of times really. People close together, prodding and poking food that they don’t buy, but eventually someone else does. some of the new ones are much better with wider aisles etc, but the behavior of the patrons doesn’t change much ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Still community spread in Phuket yet is still open to all in 4 weeks. https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/phuket-market-linked-to-womans-death/amp?__twitter_impression=true Cleaning and sanitized to be reopened in time for the massive tourist influx 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caneda Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Excel said: the troubling upward trend Where do I see this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caneda Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, Petey11 said: Content and links added All from a long time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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