Foreign retirees arrested for overstay after failing to pay 1 million baht rent on luxury Bangkok condo

[JamieM]

Just now, KarenBravo said:

 

These people had no intention of paying the landlord

How do you know what their intention was? are you a clairvoyant ?

[JamieM]

10 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Not if the 2 names given in the OP are surnames, Rees and Rose are fairly common surnames in English speaking countries.

You have a point but it still doesn't explain why the one on the left in the picture appears to be a women and they are described as a couple.

[KarenBravo]

6 minutes ago, JamieM said:

How do you know what their intention was? are you a clairvoyant ?

 

Read the article. The clue is there.

 

Have said everything I want to say about this thread.

If you don't understand, figure it out youself.

[Excel]

Just now, KarenBravo said:

 

What about agents?

I already said I might have been guilty of naivety.

What about agents ?most operate illegally by bribing the IO. Always has been the case here.  Many people do it as it is easier, gets them off compliance with some income rules etc etc and I guess will still keep doing it, but most know the risk. That risk used to ne low, very low but these days it appears that someone up high is trying to cleanup immigration's act.

Now don't get me wrong I perfectly understand why you did it, it was a convenient option and as you admit you were guilty of naivety. However, naivety  does not escape the fact that by being so you broke the law. Luckily things worked out ok for you but for those two, which the topic is about, there appears to be some oddities so please don't say they are scum until we know the facts. It could just be at their age they believed people and were similar to yourself, naïve who got caught out with respect to their overstay of 21 days, would you like to be labelled the same due to your own naivety ?

As for the rent arrears and one being hurt in the condo, taken to hospital by the owner well why couldn't it have been a case of the owner paying someone to frighten them into paying up and it got out of hand and one was injured. Now that is a common occurrence in Thailand when it comes to debt collecting but we just do not know at this time what the truth is.

[Golden Triangle]

8 minutes ago, JamieM said:

You have a point but it still doesn't explain why the one on the left in the picture appears to be a women and they are described as a couple.

I've just looked at the photo again, they look like two blokes to me, as for couple it could be the in the translation, I don't know I don't speak, read or write Thai and I haven't seen a Thai language to get some one to confirm what it says.

[JamieM]

6 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

 

Read the article. The clue is there.

They may have intended to pay but been forced into hard times by the pandemic, you cannot tell us what their intention was or was not.

 

7 minutes ago, Excel said:

Now don't get me wrong I perfectly understand why you did it, it was a convenient option and as you admit you were guilty of naivety. However, naivety  does not escape the fact that by being so you broke the law. Luckily things worked out ok for you but for those two, which the topic is about, there appears to be some oddities so please don't say they are scum until we know the facts. It could just be at their age they believed people and were similar to yourself, naïve who got caught out with respect to their overstay of 21 days, would you like to be labelled the same due to your own naivety ?

100% agree with you this is my point exactly. The poster knew he was skirting the law and got caught claiming ignorance is no defence. 

 

You would think people that have been in scrapes would have more understanding than those that have not but in this case the poster seems to have the familiar holier than thou attitude despite skirting the laws here.

[JamieM]

2 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I've just looked at the photo again, they look like two blokes to me, as for couple it could be the in the translation, I don't know I don't speak, read or write Thai and I haven't seen a Thai language to get some one to confirm what it says.

It's hard to tell if it is a women admittedly but I think it is a woman, a few things make me think this:

 

1. long hair

2. feminine frame

3. described as in a couple

4. how many old boys live together in expensive condo's here?

5. Even though it could be a surname the OP describes one of them as only being known as Rose which while it could be a surname would be odd to be known by if you are a man. 

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

These people may have plenty of money but suffer from a mental state a guy moved into my condo building while back nice enough I talked to him in the elevator or lobby a few times he had enough to take tuktuks and drink at rachapakihnai guesthouses  but after s few months he reportedly had paid his thai landlord nothing eventually the police came and dropped his goods in the carpark. 

A loon, from Canada

the mental state is alcoholism and it's rampant among foreigners..

[from the home of CC]

5 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

 

The British embassy will no longer by tickets. They will liaise with family, or friends to come up with the money. 

these two probably burned all bridges with family or friends..

[from the home of CC]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Moving in then defaulting on the rent for an expensive condo in their own country would be less than scrupulous.

 

But they went one further, they moved to another country, rented an expensive condo then didn't pay the rent.

 

What were they thinking? 

 

that they were better than Thai people..

[zyphodb]

5 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

 

The British embassy will no longer by tickets. They will liaise with family, or friends to come up with the money. 

They haven't bought tickets for 50 odd years, no relatives to get money from with a hugely inflated service charge, they'll just let them rot on the street or in jail...

[JamieM]

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

the mental state is alcoholism and it's rampant among foreigners..

and locals alike

 

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

these two probably burned all bridges with family or friends..

speculation?

 

1 minute ago, from the home of CC said:

that they were better than Thai people..

So you know what people are thinking as well? amazing

[from the home of CC]

2 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

The question is...why didn't these two men extend their stay before the 22nd of May, when they permission was due to run out?

Immigration already checked them in March, according to the article and knew their permission was due to expire on that day. 

If they had extended, they would still be there causing problems.

probably didn't have enough to bribe immigration (though an agent)..

[Rocking Robert]

How many posters on here are like me right now saying please please please don’t be American or please please please don’t be British

[from the home of CC]

2 hours ago, Ventenio said:

People say they will never help............God reads every post!!!

 

If I saw some infants crawling to my mansion, of course I would let them stay even if they could not pay!!!!  

 

if TVF members ran the world, everyone would be gone.    

 

these stories are old hat....we know the worst falangs come here, so these stories will never end.   and then never end.............   these represent falangs of Thailand.   The 40 million sexpats............   i don't why anyone is surprised.   

that's why I say peoples criminal history should be examined prior to entrance to this country,  there's just too many countries that are glad to get rid of their own trash...

[from the home of CC]

1 hour ago, JamieM said:

Yeh they look like junkies in their perfectly ironed slacks and shirts.

 

What planet do you live on where well dressed elderly people inject hard drugs?????

alcohol is also a drug, so an alcoholic can definitely be considered a junkie imo..

[JamieM]

15 minutes ago, Rocking Robert said:

How many posters on here are like me right now saying please please please don’t be American or please please please don’t be British

The silly part of it is the Thai people only see farrang race so it's irrelevant. 

 

The only people that care are the curmudgeons on here that like to bash others of their own race based on nationality, on unrequested behalf of the Thai's.

 

It gives their pathetic existence some sick kind of twisted meaning.

 

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by JamieM

[from the home of CC]

13 minutes ago, JamieM said:

and locals alike

 

speculation?

 

So you know what people are thinking as well? amazing

these low lifes give all of us here a bad name, that's just the reality of it. You defending their incredibly selfish actions and criminal behavior actually justifies the Thais that will stereotype foreigners over this.  

[JamieM]

Just now, from the home of CC said:

these low lifes give all of us here a bad name, that's just the reality of it. You defending their incredibly selfish actions and criminal behavior actually justifies the Thais that will stereotype foreigners over this.  

As I was saying... cough

 

 

[from the home of CC]

1 minute ago, JamieM said:

As I was saying... cough

 

 

better see someone about that cough - could be the pox...

[My POV]

I would have shut off the electric and water as soon as they were w months late. I have no pity on anyone cheating out other people.

[Charlie Halliday]

Yet more farang giving the rest of us a bad name. As some on this board already pointed out, scum tend to always be scum. 

[Bundooman]

Which one is 'Rose'?

[Wozzit]

2 hours ago, JamieM said:

You have a point but it still doesn't explain why the one on the left in the picture appears to be a women and they are described as a couple.

They are both male and the surnames are Rose and Rees.

Edited June 12, 2021 by Wozzit

[natway09]

So they did not cut off the water & electricity for a start ?

When they left it would take all of 10 minutes to change both locke.

80,000 Bht a month,,,,,,,I hope it was better than just "a room" ?

[Thingamabob]

10 hours ago, Andrew45 said:

Many old geezers like this around. They claim they are old and have no money and people should have sympathy for them. So they don't pay rent and walk out of restaurants with unpaid bills and bitch and whine about everything but in fact are shrewd high level narcissists  with no sense of responsibility and who care nothing about others.

Really ?

[Thingamabob]

Hopefully deportation with no possibility of a return....if this story is true.

[ukrules]

Had they renewed their extensions of stay there would have been no arrest here.

 

I note the arrest after 21 days of overstay, things are heating up here.

 

Owing some rent is merely a civil matter, surely there's come procedure to evict with the backing of the court?

[desert dueller]

These two guys - no ladies involved here - had been in Thailand as retirees for over 20 years. They eventually ran out of money and couldn't do the 800k option. The debt to their lessor was around 600k baht, so nowhere near the one million reported. However, they also borrowed extensively from local friends, without paying anything back. They are both Caucasian, and as British as they come. They have since departed.

[SunsetT]

They all end up in Thailand....555.