Soi Dog Foundation urges governor to reopen Phuket Stray Dog Shelter amid welfare concerns

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Photo: Soi Dog Foundation

 

By Soi Dog Foundation

 

Soi Dog Foundation has come out in support of volunteers at the Phuket Stray Dog Shelter in Thalang who filed an official complaint to Governor Narong Woonciew last week concerning their ongoing ban from helping at the shelter.

 

With their previous complaints to the Phuket Provincial Livestock Office (PPLO) ignored, and their concerns for the welfare of the dogs at the shelter rising, the volunteers took the matter to Phuket City Hall last Friday (July 2).

 

Soi Dog shares their concerns and is strongly urging Governor Narong to take action. Like the volunteers, Soi Dog has been banned from helping at the Phuket Stray Dog Shelter ؘ– also known as the government dog pound – since January this year.

 

Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/soi-dog-foundation-urges-governor-to-reopen-phuket-stray-dog-shelter-amid-welfare-concerns-80575.php

 

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[leba]

And what if humans were less idiots and were giving just few baht each to sterilize all dogs in this country ?

 

 

[Captain Monday]

Even animals suffer this nonsense. Dog rescue is essential activity the authorities probably consider it a farang social event or hobby to be banned for, this dubious social distancing.

[sawadee1947]

Put them all down. There are just too many of those filthy beasts ????

[Somtamnication]

1 minute ago, sawadee1947 said:

Put them all down. There are just too many of those filthy beasts ????

Who are you talking about? The peasants are revolting or the dogs? 

[sawadee1947]

6 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:

Who are you talking about? The peasants are revolting or the dogs? 

Right. I'm not sure ????

[digger70]

7 hours ago, leba said:

And what if humans were less idiots and were giving just few baht each to sterilize all dogs in this country ?

 

 

Why waste the money on sterilising the  Soi dogs . Spent the money to Cull them. 

It's time that they Wake up and get rid Of the Soi Dogs . 

There's no Other solution then to cull the Roaming Soi  dogs.

[Scott Tracy]

Let them all go. Most Thais don't seem to csre.

[from the home of CC]

15 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Why waste the money on sterilising the  Soi dogs . Spent the money to Cull them. 

It's time that they Wake up and get rid Of the Soi Dogs . 

There's no Other solution then to cull the Roaming Soi  dogs.

like all 'foundations' a pretty penny can be garnered through sympathy especially concerning the personification of animals. These strays are the bread and butter for these cashing in do gooders.. 

[from the home of CC]

9 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Let them all go. Most Thais don't seem to csre.

tell that to all those parents whose kids were chewed up by these 'lovable creatures'..

[cardinalblue]

Lets put down the mentally incompetent, the physically disabled, and all felons….why stop at soi dogs?

 

they seem to meet the same criteria as unsightly, nonproductive and clearly felons have done more harm to fellow human beings than soi dogs…

[Captain Monday]

4 hours ago, digger70 said:

Why waste the money on sterilising the  Soi dogs . Spent the money to Cull them. 

It's time that they Wake up and get rid Of the Soi Dogs . 

There's no Other solution then to cull the Roaming Soi  dogs.

You feel intelligent making cruel statements about killing dogs?

It wont work! They are territorial more will just move in. They need to be constantly managed. moved to shelters and sterilized. 

[jak2002003]

57 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

You feel intelligent making cruel statements about killing dogs?

It wont work! They are territorial more will just move in. They need to be constantly managed. moved to shelters and sterilized. 

What is cruel about his statement?

 

It's not cruel to kill them in a humane way...less cruel than the way the animals you eat or are put into the dog food are farmed and slaughtered.

 

You can't keep every single stay dog alive forever.  Killing them means the problem is gone, no more unwanted dogs suffering....but also no more 'jobs' or money for the dog rescue / lovers.

 

There wont be any more dogs to ',move in' if they are all put to sleep.  

 

 

[Captain Monday]

It is agreed not cruel to humanely destroy un adoptable at shelter sas there is a limit to resources. The problem with these threads is they always bring out the two brigades,

• Kill em all,  the guys who sound like they would happy to do it themselves
• Those who like stray dogs more than people regardless the  suffering of the dogs, a short brutal life

Both views are sociopathic. Culls don't work. The soi dog phenomena is cultural, you wont find any dogs in Muslim areas around town. Modern animal control policies are needed just like "normal" countries.

Edited July 7, 2021 by Captain Monday

[brianthainess]

23 hours ago, leba said:

And what if humans were less idiots and were giving just few baht each to sterilize all dogs in this country ?

 

 

Think this is about soi dogs without owners. In my area once a year at the local clinic no less, it is free for cats and dogs, but idiots still can't be 'bovered. The best control I have seen in Thailand on a beach was, dogs shot with dart gun marksman in camouflage (think park ranger), dragged into the shade, vet in white coat following behind, cut their nuts out and then moved on to the next dog.

[thcosh]

22 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

Put them all down. There are just too many of those filthy beasts ????

[digger70]

15 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

You feel intelligent making cruel statements about killing dogs?

It wont work! They are territorial more will just move in. They need to be constantly managed. moved to shelters and sterilized. 

I am not making cruel statements ,I am stating a Fact .

This is what happens in Aus  An ongoing Dog catching and Culling after a certain time  . Sterilisation is a No go If they get Sterilised they go and run wild again .

You just don't know what's happening in the Real world.

[Captain Monday]

14 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

What is cruel about his statement?

 

It's not cruel to kill them in a humane way...less cruel than the way the animals you eat or are put into the dog food are farmed and slaughtered.

 

You can't keep every single stay dog alive forever.  Killing them means the problem is gone, no more unwanted dogs suffering....but also no more 'jobs' or money for the dog rescue / lovers.

 

There wont be any more dogs to ',move in' if they are all put to sleep.  

 

 

It would be impossible to kill them all, then they reproduce and move in from other areas.  Dogs are territorial pack animals.

 

Let us say you did, kill 100 percent of dogs  on a Thai island. Local eople still wont neuter their pets and still let them run free. Some would run away or get lost. Of course Thai people will start eventually abandoning animals at temples and roadsides they don't want anymore. They start breeding again and the well meaning  will feed them, Of course the garbage everywhere another food source will be there. The fecundity of dogs is impressive. See the soi dogs problem is caused by the attitudes of local people. Until that is changed forget about it. 

 

 

[Captain Monday]

13 minutes ago, digger70 said:

I am not making cruel statements ,I am stating a Fact .

This is what happens in Aus  An ongoing Dog catching and Culling after a certain time  . Sterilisation is a No go If they get Sterilised they go and run wild again .

You just don't know what's happening in the Real world.

I know what you mean but sterilized dogs cant reproduce. In the US we dont tolerate packs of wild dogs in cities or suburbs because of the disease and danger. It wont happen in rural areas  as Farmer John is armed and it is perfectly legal to shoot a dog even for chasing livestock. 

 

Untold numbers are humanely destroyed in the shelters because lowlife people wont even spay and neuter pets. And now you can hardly get a coffee with out some Karens vicious pit pull lunging at you. 

[cardinalblue]

I love the statement “you just don’t live in the real world”…. Isn’t thailand the real world?

 

Putting all the stray dogs down is not a solution for the Thai culture…creative solutions need to be found with the Thai cultural framework - incentivize ownership and taking care….sterilizing should be an overwhelming theme for the unwanted and an ongoing effort….tracking all dogs they a chipping system 

 

putting a dog down should be only for past violent behavior or diseased and have an assessment system for each dog…and that has to be signed off by the authorities and local communities…

 

and more training about how to bring dogs into  and build the value of dogs within the local community..

 

very little information about dogs here as service dogs, therapy dogs companion dogs police dogs search and rescue dogs family dogs etc

 

basically non existent about the value they could serve within the    local community….need to build that image and relationship

Edited July 7, 2021 by cardinalblue

[digger70]

30 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

I love the statement “you just don’t live in the real world”…. Isn’t thailand the real world?

 

Putting all the stray dogs down is not a solution for the Thai culture…creative solutions need to be found with the Thai cultural framework - incentivize ownership and taking care….sterilizing should be an overwhelming theme for the unwanted and an ongoing effort….tracking all dogs they a chipping system 

 

putting a dog down should be only for past violent behavior or diseased and have an assessment system for each dog…and that has to be signed off by the authorities and local communities…

 

and more training about how to bring dogs into  and build the value of dogs within the local community..

 

very little information about dogs here as service dogs, therapy dogs companion dogs police dogs search and rescue dogs family dogs etc

 

basically non existent about the value they could serve within the    local community….need to build that image and relationship

Maybe it's not a solution for the thai culture but it works in western countries. 

As for putting Down dogs  as yoy say only for past behavier or diseased . For me that Included All roaming  flea bitten tic covered mange ridden snarling Soi dogs.

That's what they are that's why they Need to be culled to stop them all together.

[jak2002003]

10 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

It would be impossible to kill them all, then they reproduce and move in from other areas.  Dogs are territorial pack animals.

 

Let us say you did, kill 100 percent of dogs  on a Thai island. Local eople still wont neuter their pets and still let them run free. Some would run away or get lost. Of course Thai people will start eventually abandoning animals at temples and roadsides they don't want anymore. They start breeding again and the well meaning  will feed them, Of course the garbage everywhere another food source will be there. The fecundity of dogs is impressive. See the soi dogs problem is caused by the attitudes of local people. Until that is changed forget about it. 

 

 

You say it will be impossible to kill them all....yet you think it is possible to catch, sterilise, medicate and release them all and stop any more joining them?!

 

It's common sense which solution works best and has better odds of success.

 

Your theory about then being territorial is not right either. More dogs move in and join the packs. Females ones are welcomed, young ones and puppies sneak in, and more males joins by fighting the dominant male and taking his place...while he can also stay so long as he does not challenge the new alpha.

 

Then more dogs...more people feed them and more come. It's a vicious circle. 

 

They need to ban feeding street dogs...and people caught doing it fined....same reasons that people are told not to feed the street pigeons....and the pigeons are less dangerous or annoying than the street dogs! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 7, 2021 by jak2002003

[thailandbeachisland]

11 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

You say it will be impossible to kill them all....yet you think it is possible to catch, sterilise, medicate and release them all and stop any more joining them?!

 

It's common sense which solution works best and has better odds of success.

 

Your theory about then being territorial is not right either. More dogs move in and join the packs. Females ones are welcomed, young ones and puppies sneak in, and more males joins by fighting the dominant male and taking his place...while he can also stay so long as he does not challenge the new alpha.

 

Then more dogs...more people feed them and more come. It's a vicious circle. 

 

They need to ban feeding street dogs...and people caught doing it fined....same reasons that people are told not to feed the street pigeons....and the pigeons are less dangerous or annoying than the street dogs! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What must be banned from Thailand is people like you ! Dog are smarter and more important !