Thailand reports 9,317 new COVID-19 cases, 87 more deaths

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, pokerface1 said:

Unfortunately I don't believe any of these reported infections and deaths.

However it appears that many here do by posting graphs and data. I feel sorry for those who swallow it without question. Surely there must be a little voice at the back of your mind saying these numbers are bull shirt.

I don’t believe the official numbers are comprehensive, but neither do I believe they are fake.

 

There is actual information in the official numbers that can be used for analysis of the trajectory of the epidemic.

[anchadian]

How Thailand rode out COVID waves only to be hit by ‘virus tsunami’ 

The latest wave of COVID-19 in Thailand has dwarfed its predecessors, with daily figures surging to nearly 10,000 new cases and almost 100 deaths. So, how did Thailand get to this point after doing so well to contain the first wave last year?

 

The sudden uncontrollable rise in infections is being blamed on several factors, including the highly-contagious Delta variant, limited supply of vaccines, trafficking of migrant workers, and ineffective control efforts.

 

Here is how the COVID-19 crisis unfolded in Thailand since the virus first arrived last year.

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/how-thailand-rode-out-covid-waves-only-to-be-hit-by-virus-tsunami/

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

Unfortunately I don't believe any of these reported infections and deaths.

However it appears that many here do by posting graphs and data. I feel sorry for those who swallow it without question. Surely there must be a little voice at the back of your mind saying these numbers are bull shirt.

Of course, they are BS, as they are truly much higher or do you believe Covid is a lie...please partake in the discussion and explain why either way.

[anchadian]

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11 minutes ago, pokerface1 said:

Unfortunately I don't believe any of these reported infections and deaths.

However it appears that many here do by posting graphs and data. I feel sorry for those who swallow it without question. Surely there must be a little voice at the back of your mind saying these numbers are bull shirt.

So long as that little voice just tells you nonsense like this and doesn't start ordering you about, it's probably nothing to be concerned about.

[Danderman123]

Just now, ThailandRyan said:

Of course, they are BS, as they are truly much higher or do you believe Covid is a lie...please partake in the discussion and explain why either way.

We seem to have lost most of the “Covid is a hoax” types, and now we are down to:

 

”I had Covid last year, and it was no worse than a cold. No, I was never tested”.

 

or

 

” I work out in a gym and have a healthy immune system, so I don’t worry about Covid”.

 

For the record, I am fully vaccinated with Moderna, and I worry about Covid.

[anchadian]

Delta at the heart of new infections worldwide, may require new lockdown protocol

 

The latest wave of the coronavirus outbreak caused by the Delta variant may be too contagious for existing social distancing measures, experts say.

 

The latest data reported by the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) this week adds to these findings, with researchers telling the paper that the Delta variant may be so transmissible that they are “worried the virus could leak out easier and require harsher lockdowns.” 

 

As of June 22, 2021, more than 4,500 sequences of the variant have been detected in at least 78 countries, including Thailand. 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29793/delta-at-the-heart-of-new-infections-worldwide-may-require-new-lockdown-protocol/

[James105]

23 minutes ago, smedly said:

delta is a different animal, it is now infecting the under 40's who were the last on the vaccination priority in the UK understandably, delta has changed all that 

 

Like I have said many times - this virus and the fundamentals change rapidly - delta even brought along a whole set on different symptoms - it's like is it a different disease entirely 

The corona virus has always infected the under 40s, it is just that they are much less likely to get seriously ill if they have it.   How many people under 40 are actually on ventilators or dying from the virus in the UK where cases are still 30,000 a day and not that many under 40 will have been double jabbed yet?   

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I wonder how crematoriums can overrun with only 90 extra deaths a day. Unless of course its a lot more that we don't hear about.

We are probably not hearing about the Locked Down Worker deaths, or from those in the Prisons. And for sure there will be many. The conditions in which they are " housed  dictates this.

Both of these sectors in Society are not worthy of even being reported by the Authorities.

[smedly]

13 minutes ago, James105 said:

The corona virus has always infected the under 40s, it is just that they are much less likely to get seriously ill if they have it.   How many people under 40 are actually on ventilators or dying from the virus in the UK where cases are still 30,000 a day and not that many under 40 will have been double jabbed yet?   

exactly my point, one jab or unvaccinated are requiring treatment many are under 40 - go figure

 

Across England overall, estimated infection rates increased in all age groups and were highest in those in school Year 12 (aged 16 and 17 years) to age 24 years.

 

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

Edited July 14, 2021 by smedly

[anchadian]

A 24-year-old man in Bangkok was arrested for allegedly defaming Chulalongkorn University virology specialist Dr Yong Poovorawan by altering an article published on the Wikipedia website. #virologist #Bangkok #ThailandNews #TheNationThailand

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003223

[wensiensheng]

51 minutes ago, anchadian said:

PR Thai Government

The unused areas of Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang airports will be utilized for setting up field hospitals. The arrangement of another 7,000 beds was being made because of the current #COVID19 situation. The field hospital will open for service around August

https://twitter.com/prdthailand/status/1415144022956384264

Not quite so many tourists expected to travel from the Phuket sandbox to bangkok then?

[wensiensheng]

22 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Delta at the heart of new infections worldwide, may require new lockdown protocol

 

The latest wave of the coronavirus outbreak caused by the Delta variant may be too contagious for existing social distancing measures, experts say.

 

The latest data reported by the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) this week adds to these findings, with researchers telling the paper that the Delta variant may be so transmissible that they are “worried the virus could leak out easier and require harsher lockdowns.” 

 

As of June 22, 2021, more than 4,500 sequences of the variant have been detected in at least 78 countries, including Thailand. 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/29793/delta-at-the-heart-of-new-infections-worldwide-may-require-new-lockdown-protocol/

Well, you can’t get much harsher. Already you’re not allowed to talk on Thai trains.

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Capping the numbers as if we didn't know already:

 

A leaked letter given 2me by a human rights lawyer shows Department of Employment ordering a halt on target #COVID19 testing of migrant workers in highly infected areas due to strain on equipments &medical staff. Letter dated July 5.

 

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1415125436107935744

 

Is that a matter for the digital crime suppression unit or is it a unit of digital suppression crime?

[James105]

15 minutes ago, smedly said:

exactly my point, one jab or unvaccinated are requiring treatment many are under 40 - go figure

 

Across England overall, estimated infection rates increased in all age groups and were highest in those in school Year 12 (aged 16 and 17 years) to age 24 years.

 

Coronavirus (COVID-19) latest insights - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

How do you know many under 40 are requiring treatment from those graphs in that link?   They just report the number of infections amongst the young is going up,  but this alone is pretty meaningless without knowing how many are going into hospital and they do not break this down by age.   Also worth pointing out is that school kids have to carry out 2 tests per week I believe so the numbers of infections will be skewed to the young.   

[smedly]

4 minutes ago, James105 said:

How do you know many under 40 are requiring treatment from those graphs in that link?   They just report the number of infections amongst the young is going up,  but this alone is pretty meaningless without knowing how many are going into hospital and they do not break this down by age.   Also worth pointing out is that school kids have to carry out 2 tests per week I believe so the numbers of infections will be skewed to the young.   

by the time you took to post that reply you could have found what you were looking for 

 

I am not your secretary

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

That certainly is a possibility, however (not sure how long you have been in Thailand and how many funerals you attended) many Thais get cremated in their home town. So someone dying in BKK was often transported to home town for cremation and so on. I noticed that more then once. I am sure I am not the only one.

 

Besides if a temple cant handle it work will be shifted to an other temple. Bodies can be moved to where there is place to burn. Families want this done asap so i doubt they will only go to a select group of tempels.

Under the guise of "bio security" only a limited number of crematoriums were being used.It seems these are now too hot to handle the work loads so more "bio secure" sites will have to be established,"Bio secure" to me is another word for hiding the numbers of deaths.

Edited July 14, 2021 by FarFlungFalang

[Danderman123]

35 minutes ago, James105 said:

The corona virus has always infected the under 40s, it is just that they are much less likely to get seriously ill if they have it.   How many people under 40 are actually on ventilators or dying from the virus in the UK where cases are still 30,000 a day and not that many under 40 will have been double jabbed yet?   

What do numbers in the UK have to do with Thailand?

 

 

[James105]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

by the time you took to post that reply you could have found what you were looking for 

 

I am not your secretary

I tried looking.   I can see the graph that breaks down the numbers "infected or tested positive" by age.   What I cannot see on there is the number of hospital admissions by age.  The graph just shows hospital admissions increasing but not by age.   So I was asking how it was you were able to establish that many under 40 year olds are requiring treatment from that link as I cannot see it.   

[James105]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

What do numbers in the UK have to do with Thailand?

 

 

Not a lot, but I was responding to this post that stated:

"delta is a different animal, it is now infecting the under 40's who were the last on the vaccination priority in the UK understandably, delta has changed all that"

[Phoenix Rising]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I wonder how crematoriums can overrun with only 90 extra deaths a day. Unless of course its a lot more that we don't hear about.

If there's one thing I've learned living in Thailand for so many years it's that Thai governments (elected and non-elected alike) hate being criticized so will always try to hide/downplay anything negative so I'm fairly certain those numbers are very much on the low side.

[anchadian]

The government says it has no plans to scrap the use of mixed vaccinations and they are asking all related agencies to consider the National Communicable Disease Committee's recommendations

 #Thailand #ซิโนแวค #Sinovac #แอสตร้าเซเนก้า #AstraZeneca #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415163334995763200

 

[ThailandRyan]

23 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Well, you can’t get much harsher. Already you’re not allowed to talk on Thai trains.

Well that solves the problem of backtalking your teacher or mum or dad.....

[anchadian]

Sandbox tourist suffers swab test nosebleed

 

PHUKET: Vachira Phuket Hospital Director Dr Chalermpong Sukontapol has instructed medical personnel conducting swab tests to exercise more caution after a tourist who arrived under the Puket Sandbox scheme suffered a nosebleed from a swab sample being taken.

https://www.thephuketnews.com/sandbox-tourist-suffers-swab-test-nosebleed-80676.php

[ThailandRyan]

18 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Is that a matter for the digital crime suppression unit or is it a unit of digital suppression crime?

The new information ministry I believe would be involved, I think the new name is the (DRM) Digital Rectal Ministry.

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Well that solves the problem of backtalking your teacher or mum or dad.....

You left out the most significant.

'she who must be obeyed'

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, anchadian said:

Sandbox tourist suffers swab test nosebleed

 

PHUKET: Vachira Phuket Hospital Director Dr Chalermpong Sukontapol has instructed medical personnel conducting swab tests to exercise more caution after a tourist who arrived under the Puket Sandbox scheme suffered a nosebleed from a swab sample being taken.

https://www.thephuketnews.com/sandbox-tourist-suffers-swab-test-nosebleed-80676.php

Wait, isnt a scraping of the upper cavity near the bottom of the skull required, yes sarcastic.  Today has been a day of strange and fanatical news stories that are sure to go into the Reuters news stream and then International.....

[FarFlungFalang]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

and it goes on, picked up by Human Rights Watch now, so not only stopping tests but also stopping healthcare

 

Breaking! #Thailand Labor Minister stops #COVID19 test and healthcare for #migrant workers in #Bangkok and surrounding provinces, claiming #Thai people get priority during new outbreak. Serious violations of human rights! Also raises concerns about undetected infections.

@HRW

 

https://twitter.com/sunaibkk/status/1415047057828503553

 

Presumably this also means "all" foreign workers in Thailand?Maybe it's just those on the lower end of the pay scale maybe not.Kind of shows their true colours really especially those that buy respect with money.  

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The government says it has no plans to scrap the use of mixed vaccinations and they are asking all related agencies to consider the National Communicable Disease Committee's recommendations

 #Thailand #ซิโนแวค #Sinovac #แอสตร้าเซเนก้า #AstraZeneca #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415163334995763200

 

Prayut said he would not let this happen........oh wait ^^^^^^^^

 

Thailand’s PM says he won’t let Thais become vaccine “guinea pigs”

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailands-pm-says-he-wont-let-thais-become-vaccine-guinea-pigs

Edited July 14, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

5 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The government says it has no plans to scrap the use of mixed vaccinations and they are asking all related agencies to consider the National Communicable Disease Committee's recommendations

 #Thailand #ซิโนแวค #Sinovac #แอสตร้าเซเนก้า #AstraZeneca #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1415163334995763200

 

BANGKOK, July 14 (TNA) – Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha does not oppose the idea of inoculating people against COVID-19 with different kinds of vaccines in series, according to the government spokesman.

 

Anucha Burapachaisri said the prime minister wanted the fastest vaccination for people, especially for elderly ones and those suffering chronic diseases.

 

Regarding a proposal on the mixed use of different vaccines for the first and second jabs, the government spokesman said, the priority was the fastest inoculation for as many people as possible because the Delta variant of COVID-19 was easily transmissible and was spreading rapidly.

https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-738394