anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Holidays approach starting this weekend in Thailand bringing alcohol sale bans, Immigration closures, and Covid-19 restrictions Thailand- Several major holidays are approaching over the upcoming weekend and next week, which will impact many with both the way they will be marked and due to related measures, with traditional activities like the cover photo banned this year. https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/22/holidays-approach-starting-this-weekend-in-thailand-bringing-alcohol-sale-bans-immigration-closures-and-covid-19-restrictions/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: To see people going hungry and struggling from the restrictions during this pandemic I only have to look next door to me and see someone in our family who was working in Bangkok and had a job and had just bought a new pickup.He lost his job and the pickup and moved back to the village where he hunts rats eats dogs cuts down trees to sell and eats our food because he is hungry and because he is a bit of a smart ar$ (a bit like FFF was/is) he can't can't rely on other members of his family. Of course he is responsible for the position he is in being to proud and wilful to change his ways he has about five kids by three different women and the last of these lives with us because the mum has bolted and left him with the kid.This guy's younger brother is the exact opposite. Like the covid numbers the numbers of people suffering from hunger or even dying from it could easily be manipulated.The numbers of people going hungry might not be so much of a concern right now but I think that could change quickly if a full lockdown were to be implemented and that is where my concern lies. The fact that it's the Thai administration's responsibility to take care of its poorer citizens does little to help those when they fail to do so. I hope you can appreciate that I'm not a beer swilling barstool operator though I have swilled a lifetimes worth of beer and operated many a barstool including many in Bangkok I've since had my barstool operators licence revoked by Mrs FFF. My point is that real starving does not happen. (in general) However if you read that a guy just hung himself in Nothaburi because there were no hospital beds available. (BKK post article) Maybe then you understand what I mean with the health system not being able to cope. Finding dead people with covid in the streets is also a clear sign. I havent seen people die of starvation but i did see food banks being put up in BKK and Pattaya. The guy who made the point about the workers camp was right too but that is more an exception and gross missmanagement. Also the employer should be hung out to dry. Covid kills far more then hunger and is far more of a concern. If anything this government will under report things then over report. They want this under the rug they don't want to be remembered as the government that killed so many. India is a good example official tally 400k real tally between 3 and 4 million (calculated by an US study). I dislike lockdowns as much as the next person, life has become a lot more boring. Havent seen my parents in over 2 years (i know its a choice i could if i really wanted to go through 2 times quarantine). I want this to go away but the only way i see that happen is lockdowns like this and more important vaccinations. They are lacking on the vaccination part. I am doing far better then others because the house the GF her company pays for has a huge private pool and I brought my home gym from Nothaburi (where i used to live). So its not too bad. I am also a person that likes being home but even for me this is becoming boring. I used to like going to buy groceries, now i don't masks temperature checks and all. No chance to go to an other province or do stuff. Others have it far harder I realize that and i still agree with lockdowns and masks and the checks. I don't like them but accept them. I just did not agree with the restaurant thing because it made no sense. But yesterday already ordered from an other place that also had healthy food. They brought it today put it in the freezer and im done for a week or two. It wasn't a selfish remark but more a question of the logic behind it. I have helped Thai friends out by giving an interest free loan because she was paying 5% per month. She is a close friend and is good for it has land that has value. She is suffering as she is a tour guide totally dependent on tourism. So yes I do know about people who have it a lot worse then me. But i think that everyone is going crazy to a certain extent from this pandemic. I feel for those that have no income and i find it the government its responsibility to do so. But im a realist i know they wont help everyone and not enough. I said it before slash the military budget as they are the ones responsible let them hurt not the people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 Hospital bed shortage “a crisis” Only 5 per cent remain of the hospital beds designated for Covid patients with moderate symptoms or in critical condition in the Bangkok and Metropolitan Region (BMR), the government said on Thursday. https://www.thaienquirer.com/30333/hospital-bed-shortage-a-crisis/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 With all due respect but you would think that the Thai Government would have learned from the UK & Boris's Governments bungling of the same situation. Just in case you choose to forget UK Deaths, 129,000 (73 yesterday) Infections 5.560,000 Thailand is not an island & with legal & illegal immigrant workers more than likely has a higher population. It really is about where we go from here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, natway09 said: With all due respect but you would think that the Thai Government would have learned from the UK & Boris's Governments bungling of the same situation. Just in case you choose to forget UK Deaths, 129,000 (73 yesterday) Infections 5.560,000 Thailand is not an island & with legal & illegal immigrant workers more than likely has a higher population. It really is about where we go from here No they learnt nothing from the UK, be that the way Alpha was discovered in Sept and how infectious it is, any bungling that occurred and most importantly they also did not learn the good examples of how important it was to invest and order a large range of vaccines rather than rely on just one. However it also seems they have learnt nothing from any country affected from the new variants not just the UK. Delta worse than Alpha and they still were complacent when it was found. Where we do we go from here? Well their complacency got us here so now they need to make the decisions to get us out, not looking good at the moment though. Edited July 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 3 million doses of #Sinopharm vaccine have already been delivered, with 2 million more expected in 2 weeks, leaving 4 million more to be procured. #Thailand #ThailandNews Read more: https://bit.ly/3wYTHQT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 22, 2021) . About 5.36% of the population is fully vaccinated. 11,538,866 (+246,287) people have received the first dose, while 3,545,830 (+33,289) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #KE https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1418169304617406471 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 Breaking: #Chonburi governor orders more closures including all beaches except for fishermen, reservoirs, zoos, any tourist attraction, playgrounds, any shows, and more. Article soon. Effective immediately until further notice. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chonburi?src=hashtag_click 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Fatigued by Covid infection, 73-year-old gives up and hangs himself The deceased’s son, Charlie, 38, said his father had called him on July 15 saying he was feeling ill and wanted something to eat. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003612 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Registration for vaccination for foreigners aged 60-74 years as of July 22, 2020 at 1PM - was 1,966 persons. The Bang Sue Grand Station Vaccination Center will send an SMS giving the date for vaccinatn in a few days. https://twitter.com/SangratTanee/status/1418181684327948292 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, robblok said: Covid kills far more then hunger and is far more of a concern. If anything this government will under report things then over report. They want this under the rug they don't want to be remembered as the government that killed so many. India is a good example official tally 400k real tally between 3 and 4 million (calculated by an US study). As for Covid killing more than hunger you might want to see the link below On yearly averages 9 millions die each year 3.1 million of which are children so over the last 18 months 4.5 million children died from hunger and 13 million in total globally and the UN predicted that those number could double during the pandemic.I do notice that Thailand isn't very high on the list for people dying from hunger in fact its lower than the USA.Globally though the numbers are quite staggering.Anyway check out the list and see which is more concerning globally.Remember this is a yearly occurrence. https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/people-and-poverty/hunger-and-obesity/how-many-people-die-from-hunger-each-year/story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, anchadian said: 23 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: As for Covid killing more than hunger you might want to see the link below On yearly averages 9 millions die each year 3.1 million of which are children so over the last 18 months 4.5 million children died from hunger and 13 million in total globally and the UN predicted that those number could double during the pandemic.I do notice that Thailand isn't very high on the list for people dying from hunger in fact its lower than the USA.Globally though the numbers are quite staggering.Anyway check out the list and see which is more concerning globally.Remember this is a yearly occurrence. https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/people-and-poverty/hunger-and-obesity/how-many-people-die-from-hunger-each-year/story Globally, probably. But I think we are talking about Thailand here. Expanding the conversation to global hunger, expands it to global Covid deaths and then it’s not so relevant to this thread. At least imho. Edited July 22, 2021 by wensiensheng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sezze Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: As for Covid killing more than hunger you might want to see the link below On yearly averages 9 millions die each year 3.1 million of which are children so over the last 18 months 4.5 million children died from hunger and 13 million in total globally and the UN predicted that those number could double during the pandemic.I do notice that Thailand isn't very high on the list for people dying from hunger in fact its lower than the USA.Globally though the numbers are quite staggering.Anyway check out the list and see which is more concerning globally.Remember this is a yearly occurrence. https://www.theworldcounts.com/challenges/people-and-poverty/hunger-and-obesity/how-many-people-die-from-hunger-each-year/story We all know that many die each year of hunger, but this is by incompetent governments , local wars , political disputes ... as there is enough food in this world to let nobody die of hunger . I do not believe anybody in Thailand will die of hunger , even in these difficult times , you will get food if you really need it ( temples or personal gifts ) . In a village , even very old unable to move people will come over to the house and give a bit of rice and some other food to them . In the cities it might be a bit harder but i do believe still the same systems exist . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Thailand's Vaccine Tracker (July 22, 2021) . About 5.36% of the population is fully vaccinated. 11,538,866 (+246,287) people have received the first dose, while 3,545,830 (+33,289) have been fully inoculated. #วัคซีนโควิด19 #COVID19 #ล็อกดาวน์ #KE https://twitter.com/KhaosodEnglish/status/1418169304617406471 I can’t believe these numbers this week. And not a peep of explanation afaik. Can it simply be lack of vaccine, or some issue with the system, or not enough people wanting vaccine? Has to be one or some combination of the three. But this graph is always the absolute worst news of the day because it’s the way out of this mess. Everything else is short term noise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 hours ago, anchadian said: Out of 13,099 local cases (outside of prisons), most in Bangkok - 2,893 Samut Sakhon - 965 Samut Prakan - 895 Chonburi - 620 Nonthaburi - 416 Pathum Thani - 365 Nakhon Ratchasima - 293 Pattani - 289 Suphanburi - 274 Rayong - 261 https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1418108684798881793 Per capita Samut Sakhon is the worst province in Thailand I would think by a long way. The actual number for today is 975. Interesting article elsewhere that cannot be cited here but worth a read. Govenor basically sticking it up the CCSA regarding isolating positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) PhuketSandbox update on Thursday: 18 local cases and 2 sandbox cases with 130 patients now in hospital. WEEK 1: 25 cases WEEK 2: 47 cases WEEK 3: 58 cases WEEK 4: 18 local + 2 sandbox in one day TOTAL: 129 local and 21 sandbox #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand Not a good start to Week 4 of the #PhuketSandbox. Twenty new cases on the first day. If this becomes the new trend then it will easily reach 90 cases in one week, which could sound the death knoll for the sandbox. I hope not. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418194240836833280 Edited July 22, 2021 by anchadian 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: I can’t believe these numbers this week. And not a peep of explanation afaik. Can it simply be lack of vaccine, or some issue with the system, or not enough people wanting vaccine? Has to be one or some combination of the three. But this graph is always the absolute worst news of the day because it’s the way out of this mess. Everything else is short term noise. Come on. You know like everyone else knows. Beta and Delta have been let off the leash by a completely incompetent fool. Full vaccination sitting around 6% and most of them will be double vacced with the Chinese juice. This so called PM should face criminal chares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, anchadian said: The Bang Sue Grand Station Vaccination Center will send an SMS giving the date for vaccinatn in a few days. I'm still trying to find the link for registration. Have zero confidence after last Sunday effort at SCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, wensiensheng said: Globally, probably. But I think we are talking about Thailand here. Expanding the conversation to global hunger, expands it to global Covid deaths and then it’s not so relevant to this thread. At least imho. I feel it's justifiable in that I was replying to a post about covid numbers and deaths from hunger from related restrictions which include Thailand covid numbers and is more related to the topic than vaccines and vaccine numbers and efficacy and that is also as you say imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Breaking: #Chonburi governor orders more closures including all beaches except for fishermen, reservoirs, zoos, any tourist attraction, playgrounds, any shows, and more. Article soon. Effective immediately until further notice. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chonburi?src=hashtag_click Trying to outdo the Bangkok Governorer and BMA. Wait, I thought he was opening Chonburi to tourism on September 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, anchadian said: PhuketSandbox update on Thursday: 18 local cases and 2 sandbox cases with 130 patients now in hospital. WEEK 1: 25 cases WEEK 2: 47 cases WEEK 3: 58 cases WEEK 4: 18 local + 2 sandbox in one day TOTAL: 129 local and 21 sandbox #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand Not a good start to Week 4 of the #PhuketSandbox. Twenty new cases on the first day. If this becomes the new trend then it will easily reach 90 cases in one week, which could sound the death knoll for the sandbox. I hope not. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418194240836833280 I thought the Sandbox would be canceled once they hit 20 in a week. Oh the fun people will have but wait as the governor did say there is no going back..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I'm still trying to find the link for registration. Have zero confidence after last Sunday effort at SCG https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf_M5LMBUrxjtqtiRjp0dmtAgXHxrOBYN5T__fj_wuUPwen9A/viewform 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, anchadian said: Breaking: #Chonburi governor orders more closures including all beaches except for fishermen, reservoirs, zoos, any tourist attraction, playgrounds, any shows, and more. Article soon. Effective immediately until further notice. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chonburi?src=hashtag_click Chonburi governor releases more Covid -19 closures and restrictions, including beach closures, effective until further notice List of additional closures here: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/07/22/chonburi-governor-releases-more-covid-19-closures-and-restrictions-including-beach-closures-effective-until-further-notice/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, anchadian said: 3 million doses of #Sinopharm vaccine have already been delivered, with 2 million more expected in 2 weeks, leaving 4 million more to be procured. #Thailand #ThailandNews Read more: https://bit.ly/3wYTHQT This is unusual. The original announcement was for 1 million doses. They seem to have quietly acquired another 2 million doses. Geez, put them in charge of vaccination procurement, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wensiensheng Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, anchadian said: PhuketSandbox update on Thursday: 18 local cases and 2 sandbox cases with 130 patients now in hospital. WEEK 1: 25 cases WEEK 2: 47 cases WEEK 3: 58 cases WEEK 4: 18 local + 2 sandbox in one day TOTAL: 129 local and 21 sandbox #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand Not a good start to Week 4 of the #PhuketSandbox. Twenty new cases on the first day. If this becomes the new trend then it will easily reach 90 cases in one week, which could sound the death knoll for the sandbox. I hope not. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418194240836833280 Well, it may or may not reach 90 cases. My concern isn’t the sandbox tourists. They seem irrelevant to me. There is so few of them. At least 500,000 residents, and what, 7/8k tourists? The sandbox thing is just a sideshow. Whether tourists are here or not is irrelevant. my concern is whether the governor will make data driven decisions in respect of Covid on the island. His concern should be to local residents and the action needed to protect them from Covid. The island is very open atm. I hope he is watching for trends that may or may not be developing and that he will take action early if need be. If he leaves it too late, Phuket will become like the rest of Thailand, in the grip of the virus and unable to take action to change its course. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I thought the Sandbox would be canceled once they hit 20 in a week. Oh the fun people will have but wait as the governor did say there is no going back..... I think it’s 90 single cases in a week, or 3 clusters, or cases in 6 districts. Might be wrong, but something like that. The cluster and districts conditions are hard to monitor. I only see cases mentioned, no other details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 The Royal Thai Army has requested that the Thai Red Cross provide personnel and their families within Bangkok to receive the Moderna vaccine, according to local media. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1418210449707868173 The Thai Red Cross have been allocated one million doses of Moderna vaccines through the GPO and said it would provide them to the public for free. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, anchadian said: The Royal Thai Army has requested that the Thai Red Cross provide personnel and their families within Bangkok to receive the Moderna vaccine, according to local media. https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1418210449707868173 The Thai Red Cross have been allocated one million doses of Moderna vaccines through the GPO and said it would provide them to the public for free. Royal Thai Army goes cap in hand to the red cross, I hope the Red Cross is strong enough to tell them a request is only considered based on the red cross's own vulnerable list not because of pressure from the army to hand some over. Phuket is after some of those vaccines from the red cross too and they are willing to pay for them, again I hope this will be turned down flat! PPAO eyes B98mn budget to buy Moderna vaccine for Phuket PHUKET: Rewat Areerob, President of the Phuket Provincial Administrative Organisation (PPAO, or OrBorJor) today called for a budget of about B98 million from the central government in order to buy more than 89,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine from the Red Cross. https://www.thephuketnews.com/ppao-eyes-b98mn-budget-to-buy-moderna-vaccine-for-phuket-80783.php The Red Cross is a neutral and independent organization whose exclusively humanitarian mission is based on their own principles. They have paid themselves for those vaccines and have promised to administer them free to people in need. Edited July 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, anchadian said: PhuketSandbox update on Thursday: 18 local cases and 2 sandbox cases with 130 patients now in hospital. WEEK 1: 25 cases WEEK 2: 47 cases WEEK 3: 58 cases WEEK 4: 18 local + 2 sandbox in one day TOTAL: 129 local and 21 sandbox #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand Not a good start to Week 4 of the #PhuketSandbox. Twenty new cases on the first day. If this becomes the new trend then it will easily reach 90 cases in one week, which could sound the death knoll for the sandbox. I hope not. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418194240836833280 2 hours ago, anchadian said: PhuketSandbox update on Thursday: 18 local cases and 2 sandbox cases with 130 patients now in hospital. WEEK 1: 25 cases WEEK 2: 47 cases WEEK 3: 58 cases WEEK 4: 18 local + 2 sandbox in one day TOTAL: 129 local and 21 sandbox #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand Not a good start to Week 4 of the #PhuketSandbox. Twenty new cases on the first day. If this becomes the new trend then it will easily reach 90 cases in one week, which could sound the death knoll for the sandbox. I hope not. https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1418194240836833280 But as best as I can recall, deaths haven't budged in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeEboy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 13 hours ago, darksidedog said: Had they taken such actions in closing everything and restricting travel before Songkran we probably wouldn't be in the situation we are now. Finally joining COVAX will hopefully help in the vaccine supply and that really should be the biggest priority for the country right now, as the current levels are pathetic. Wouldn’t have mattered. The Delta variant is the first reason the second is a poor vaccination plan with a crappy vaccine sinovac. if you look at other countries (western) with spikes and lockdowns, that have a robust vaccine program. It has taken a minimum of 7 months (best case scenario like in the US) to start to open up. So with Thailand’s surge just beginning and no real coordinations vaccine plan. You’re looking at, at least a year before things might open (And I’m not talking about the ridiculous Sandbox <deleted>). Now throw in another variant and tear out the last pages of your play book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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