5 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

The better media outlets, can you give an example of who these are please? 

Any media outlets which contain expert medical opinion such as medical and scientific journals. Other general media outlets which have high levels of trust and w wide range of readership rather than those which cater to only a fringe political sector. Also media outlets which aren't heavily criticised by well regarded fact checkers. Another consideration would be media which is constrained by legislation mandating fair and balanced reporting.

3 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

The better media outlets, can you give an example of who these are please? 

The NY Times has a pay wall, but many articles on Coronavirus are free.  AP News and Reuters are pretty much just pure news sites.  No opinion stuff.  NPR, BBC, The Guardian, Financial Times, The Economist, etc.  Sites like CDC, etc, also have some good info.

 

A good place to vet your sources:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

 

Another source:

https://adfontesmedia.com/

http://adfontesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Media-Bias-Chart-8.0_Sept-2021-Unlicensed-Social-Media_Low-300x237.jpg

 

Just now, ozimoron said:

Any media outlets which contain expert medical opinion such as medical and scientific journals. Other general media outlets which have high levels of trust and w wide range of readership rather than those which cater to only a fringe political sector. Also media outlets which aren't heavily criticised by well regarded fact checkers. Another consideration would be media which is constrained by legislation mandating fair and balanced reporting.

Many here put up links to dodgy sites.  The first clue is a big DONATE HERE button! LOL

On 11/30/2021 at 3:33 PM, Tonypandy said:

Any site that is not MSM, or to make it easy read the MSM and then you know the opposite is true. 

Thankfully Facebook is becoming a more limited option for the anti vaxxers, hopefully there will be less misinformation promoted and less harassment of the scientists, medical staff and officials carrying out public health. Its these types of dangerous campaigns that help fuel vaccine hesitancy in some nations and groups.

 

"Facebook says it has derailed an anti-vaccine campaign that harassed medical staff, journalists and officials. "V-V" supporters mass-harassed people on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and other platforms, calling doctors "Nazi supporters" 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/facebook-hits-anti-vaccine-campaign-213832247.html

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

The first clue is a big DONATE HERE button! LOL

Yeah  much better to be (secretly)  sponsored by Pfizer,J&J etc.

1 hour ago, johng said:

Yeah  much better to be (secretly)  sponsored by Pfizer,J&J etc.

Doesn't make sense.  Another conspiracy theory?  Too many...jeez.

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thankfully Facebook is becoming a more limited option for the anti vaxxers, hopefully there will be less misinformation promoted and less harassment of the scientists, medical staff and officials carrying out public health. Its these types of dangerous campaigns that help fuel vaccine hesitancy in some nations and groups.

 

"Facebook says it has derailed an anti-vaccine campaign that harassed medical staff, journalists and officials. "V-V" supporters mass-harassed people on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and other platforms, calling doctors "Nazi supporters" 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/facebook-hits-anti-vaccine-campaign-213832247.html

More sensorship. I suppose the docs in the UK can now collect an extra 15 pounds per jab in peace 

16 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

More sensorship. I suppose the docs in the UK can now collect an extra 15 pounds per jab in peace 

Lets hope so, they deserve it along with the nurses after being hounded and called nazi's

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Bkk Brian

On 11/30/2021 at 10:27 AM, Jeffr2 said:

One doctor says this. She's not a scientist and has no idea about the real details of this variant. Stunning how the deniers gravitate towards stuff like this.

So far, a guy who developed a software is dictating things to do about vaccination and other treatments. I am keen to listen to her so... she is already more qualified than Bill... for sure.

16 hours ago, johng said:

Yeah  much better to be (secretly)  sponsored by Pfizer,J&J etc.

Let me in on the secret.

Which ones.....

????

9 hours ago, jeanrem said:

So far, a guy who developed a software is dictating things to do about vaccination and other treatments. I am keen to listen to her so... she is already more qualified than Bill... for sure.

Don't know much about Bill, do you.

3 hours ago, Virt said:

Let me in on the secret.

Which ones.....

????

Facebook J&J

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Facebook J&J

Social media is the source of most misinformation. Sad some choose to get their info from these sources.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/04/15/987182241/the-most-popular-j-j-vaccine-story-on-facebook-a-conspiracy-theorist-posted-it

The Most Popular J&J Vaccine Story On Facebook? A Conspiracy Theorist Posted It

Edited December 2, 20214 yr by Jeffr2

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Lets hope so, they deserve it along with the nurses after being hounded and called nazi's

Very weird you agree on sensorship. Sensorship is only to cover the lies. 

3 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

Very weird you agree on sensorship. Sensorship is only to cover the lies. 

Nonsense, so they were calling these people Nazi's, that is the lie.

 

Totally agree with censorship when it involves mass-harassed people on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and other platforms, calling doctors "Nazi supporters"

 

 

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nonsense, so they were calling these people Nazi's, that is the lie.

 

Totally agree with censorship when it involves mass-harassed people on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and other platforms, calling doctors "Nazi supporters"

 

 

Sensorship was what the Nazis did. To accomplish thier goal, they controlled all forms of communication through sensorship and propaganda. This included newspapers, news channels, magazines, books, arts, theatre, movies and radio. 

 

There wasn't any social media to oppose what was taking place, thankfully there is now. 

 

People have short memories 

1 minute ago, Tonypandy said:

 

 

There wasn't any social media to oppose what was taking place, thankfully there is now. 

 

 

Thankfully social media is taking action on anti vaxxers who harass and intimidate health professionals

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thankfully social media is taking action on anti vaxxers who harass and intimidate health professionals

You mean health professionals like Fauci Lol. Do you really think they care about a nurse doing her job

22 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

Very weird you agree on sensorship. Sensorship is only to cover the lies. 

Censorship is only to prevent the lies from being published.  Misinformation is the #1 problem today.  And those who fall for it.

14 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

You mean health professionals like Fauci Lol. Do you really think they care about a nurse doing her job

Do you really think they don't?  If so, you know nothing about health professionals.

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Do you really think they don't?  If so, you know nothing about health professionals.

Yes they show they care by firing 100s of thousands of health professionals around the world who refuse the vaccines. That tells me all I need to know 

1 minute ago, Tonypandy said:

Yes they show they care by firing 100s of thousands of health professionals around the world who refuse the vaccines. That tells me all I need to know 

You'll have to put up a link proving this.  I'll wait.

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Censorship is only to prevent the lies from being published.  Misinformation is the #1 problem today.  And those who fall for it.

China is a leading country on sensorship, so you agree that they are only doing this because of lies

1 minute ago, Tonypandy said:

China is a leading country on sensorship, so you agree that they are only doing this because of lies

Agreed.  But that's just one country.  Same happens here also.

8 minutes ago, Tonypandy said:

Yes they show they care by firing 100s of thousands of health professionals around the world who refuse the vaccines. That tells me all I need to know 

Yes they care about the patients who are vulnerable.

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

Yes they care about the patients who are vulnerable.

still waiting for his link proving 100's of thousands of medical workers have been fired. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/03/africa/south-africa-omicron-cases-surge-intl/index.html

 

South Africa Covid-19 cases have quadrupled since Tuesday, with Omicron fueling the surge

20 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Agreed.  But that's just one country.  Same happens here also.

And it's now happening all over the world

1 minute ago, Tonypandy said:

And it's now happening all over the world

For good reasons.  Misinformation is a big reason this pandemic isn't over yet.

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

For good reasons.  Misinformation is a big reason this pandemic isn't over yet.

Yes to support comminism, enjoy