'Do your own research / I do my own research' has become code for conspiracy theory followers

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

You kind? You mean rational beings?

One man's rational being is another man's nutjob.

In reality there are very few absolute truths.

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by BritManToo

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

One man's rational being is another man's nutjob.

There really is no point.

[Khabib]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

One man's rational being is another man's nutjob.

I guess we're all flying over the cuckoo's nest one way or another. How we determine reality is a complex thing.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

One man's rational being is another man's nutjob.

In reality there are very few absolute truths.

 

Reality? There cannot be reality without absolute truths. And the absolute truth is you're trolling now so I suggest you head back to your chosen bridge and take a nap.

[Khabib]

If I was to suggest colours don't even exist, just a concept of the brain. Is that a conspiracy theory.

[Khabib]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Reality? There cannot be reality without absolute truths. And the absolute truth is you're trolling now so I suggest you head back to your chosen bridge and take a nap.

I'm no moderator, I think we should all try to be kind to each other, regardless of opinions.

[Phoenix Rising]

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

If I want to think the world is flat or God is real ......... it doesn't matter if it's true, or a lie, or misinformation.

It doesn't affect your life.

But you refusing to vaccinate does so I want you to get jabbed with or without your consent.

[Khabib]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

But you refusing to vaccinate does so I want you to get jabbed with or without your consent.

Thats harsh.

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Khabib said:

If I was to suggest colours don't even exist, just a concept of the brain. Is that a conspiracy theory.

Only if you recruit followers to your belief.

Edited December 6, 2021 by BritManToo

[Phoenix Rising]

Just now, Khabib said:

I'm no moderator, I think we should all try to be kind to each other, regardless of opinions.

Suggesting that someone takes a nap is kindness to the individual (naps are healthy) and to those who have to suffer the posts of that individual.

It's a win-win thing!

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

But you refusing to vaccinate does so I want you to get jabbed with or without your consent.

I'm vaccinated for COVID with two Pfizer jabs.

I don't believe the vaccination is effective, but it was free and unlikely to harm me.

If I were a young man who was still trying to reproduce, and with years ahead of me, I probably wouldn't have been so compliant, but at my age there is no 'long-term' to worry about. 

Edited December 6, 2021 by BritManToo

[Khabib]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Only if you recruit followers to your belief.

Or alternatively, understand wavelengths/frequencies and how the brain interprets it. Just like our vision is also upside down. The brain a marvellous deceiver 

[Saanim]

47 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I use the above fact check sites, bounce that against the others sites I use, and come up with the truth.  I've not found these 2 sites to be off in their analysis.

What about to check rather with own common sense?

[Khabib]

Is sex truly enjoyable, or just a construct of the mind to propagate. Is it a conspiracy or real?

[Phoenix Rising]

1 minute ago, Khabib said:

Thats harsh.

Harsh times call for harsh measures. Nobody will of course get jabbed without their consent unless we get a variant that's significantly more deadly and contagious.

And even then Darwin's principles will sort things out eventually. To be honest I don't believe anti-vaxxers at this point should be forcefully jabbed but I'm all for making getting vaccinated mandatory if you want to live a semi-normal life. Fine, don't get the vaccines but don't expect to be able to go to work, restos, shops etc., and I would also bar the from ICUs if they came down with Covid.

[Jeffr2]

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

One man's rational being is another man's nutjob.

In reality there are very few absolute truths.

 

OMG.  Ya gotta be kidding me.  Unreal.  There are many absolute truths. Many.  But not for those who don't believe in science.

[Phoenix Rising]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm vaccinated for COVID with two Pfizer jabs.

I don't believe the vaccination is effective........

Despite all the evidence to the contrary....

[Phoenix Rising]

5 minutes ago, Saanim said:

What about to check rather with own common sense?

Because "common sense" is highly subjective it's not a trustworthy tool.

[Khabib]

4 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Harsh times call for harsh measures. Nobody will of course get jabbed without their consent unless we get a variant that's significantly more deadly and contagious.

And even then Darwin's principles will sort things out eventually. To be honest I don't believe anti-vaxxers at this point should be forcefully jabbed but I'm all for making getting vaccinated mandatory if you want to live a semi-normal life. Fine, don't get the vaccines but don't expect to be able to go to work, restos, shops etc., and I would also bar the from ICUs if they came down with Covid.

I continue to cross my fingers that darwins principles stand true of covid. Everything likes to survive, and killing the host isn't a great method of survival from a virus point of view. I'm hoping omicron is the light at the end of the tunnel. But as you previously pointed out, we just don't know yet. Or maybe it was someone else - can't remember.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Khabib
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[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm vaccinated for COVID with two Pfizer jabs.

I don't believe the vaccination is effective, but it was free and unlikely to harm me.

If I were a young man who was still trying to reproduce, and with years ahead of me, I probably wouldn't have been so compliant, but at my age there is no 'long-term' to worry about. 

You also said you got covid.  Then after some prying, admitted you were never tested.  You're honesty is a bit...umm....questionable.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, Phoenix Rising said:

Because "common sense" is highly subjective it's not a trustworthy tool.

And it's been proven that those who fall for the conspiracy theories are not using common sense.

[Khabib]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

And it's been proven that those who fall for the conspiracy theories are not using common sense.

Thats right, because they haven't got any 555

[Khabib]

When it comes to Mr Icke, he's a vulture of people missing a certain screw in the head.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, Khabib said:

Thats right, because they haven't got any 555

Years ago we had a member here who was constantly putting up conspiracy theories.  We'd prove him wrong, he'd be suspended for a bit, and come back with the same nonsense.  I started a PM exchange with him on one of his "theories".  Finally, he admitted it was just a conspiracy theory.  But ended his comments with "but it could be true". LOL.  Shows you how their minds work.  Somethings not clicking properly.

[Saanim]

1 minute ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Because "common sense" is highly subjective it's not a trustworthy tool.

Just to look few years back on some important events (often leading to a war) when an opinion different to the official one was labelled as a "conspiracy theory", sometimes immediately censored.

 

What's the truth after years?

 

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, Marcomilton7 said:

But it's totally OK for you to call people 'right wing extremists' - because they believe in the sovereignty of their own body and then you going running to teacher when the tide turns against you

Yes, it's OK to call them out.  The majority of us who are vaccinated are tired of these people.  They're responsible for this pandemic extending.  Spreading false information, and falling for it.  We're in this together.  What they do has a direct impact on my life.  I've got rights also.  The right to not have to worry some nutter is unvaccinated and potentially spreading the virus around.

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Marcomilton7 said:

But it's totally OK for you to call people 'right wing extremists' - because they believe in the sovereignty of their own body and then you going running to teacher when the tide turns against you

One reason for assuming that anti vaxxers are right wing extremists is the high correlation between anti-vaxers and that demographic. Another is that most vaccines are actually mandatory anyway and nobody complains about them. "sovereignty of their own body" is an excuse for narcissism and doesn't explain the many anti-vaxers who admit they are vaccinated but opposed to vaccine mandates anyway. Kind of like Brian protesting his right to get pregnant in The Life of Brian. I think the association is mostly justifiable in the majority of cases. Obviously not all but the generalisation is valid.

[Khabib]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Years ago we had a member here who was constantly putting up conspiracy theories.  We'd prove him wrong, he'd be suspended for a bit, and come back with the same nonsense.  I started a PM exchange with him on one of his "theories".  Finally, he admitted it was just a conspiracy theory.  But ended his comments with "but it could be true". LOL.  Shows you how their minds work.  Somethings not clicking properly.

When it comes to conspiracy theories, I just get fed up with people who wish to sound like they know it all, when in fact it just debases what I think of them as people.

[blackprince]

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

One reason for assuming that anti vaxxers are right wing extremists is the high correlation between anti-vaxers and that demographic. Another is that most vaccines are actually mandatory anyway and nobody complains about them. "sovereignty of their own body" is an excuse for narcissism and doesn't explain the many anti-vaxers who admit they are vaccinated but opposed to vaccine mandates anyway. Kind of like Brian protesting his right to get pregnant in The Life of Brian. I think the association is mostly justifiable in the majority of cases. Obviously not all but the generalisation is valid.

In the UK the highest correlation of non-vaxxers is in the black community.

Covid vaccine: 72% of black people unlikely to have jab, UK survey finds

Are they right wing extremists? Surely not, that wouldn't fit your narrative.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/16/covid-vaccine-black-people-unlikely-covid-jab-uk

 

 

Edited December 6, 2021 by blackprince

[Rimmer]

A personal attack has been removed