Popular Post sometimewoodworker Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 12 hours ago, ukrules said: The thing here is that it's perfectly reasonable to expect to isolate in your hotel if you test positive because that's what all the sane countries in the world do. If COVID were not transmitted by aerosol (it is) or hotel rooms were air sealed (they are not) then isolating in a hotel room would be reasonable for those not needing hospital treatment. But since hotels are not setup to stop the transmission methods that COVID uses then getting infected individuals away from non infected individuals is what a sane country does. If I were in an ASQ hotel there is no way that I would be happy that a known infected person were permitted to stay there. Hotels are not setup for long term infection control, hotel staff are not trained for the job. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobbyClarke Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 If they didn't know, where have you they been? The world knows what is happening in LOS. Blaming TUI is a pathetic excuse. Why didn't they test the child along with themselves? No sympathy whatsoever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longwood50 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 6 hours ago, herfiehandbag said: Remember they are from a society where government advice can usually be trusted Now which one are you saying can be trusted? I am from the USA and I can assure you that what they communicate is what they want you to believe not necessarily what is the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 56 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said: Agree Dave. It's beneath Brian to get involved with someone who comes on the board to bait and troll daily. Just looking for a reaction. Will always just say the complete opposite view, no matter what anyone says. Not the only one that has appeared recently. Yes Indeed. A few of those types still loitering. TV’s always had em of course but it’s gotten a bit old in these times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChC1 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 The lady in question should have came to ASEANNOW forum (especially Thailand News sub forum) just once maybe a 3 minutes browsing before she made the decision to purchase the tour from TUI, would have avoided one of her worst decisions in her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, ikke1959 said: The Israeli was tested negative over and over again, he only broke the rule that the did not wait for the result of the test... please inform yourself Source or it isn't true. Last I heard he will be charged and deported... seems severe if he really tested negative.... Do I really need to hear from someone who equates a deadly virus to a cut finger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 hours ago, ukrules said: They came with TUI which is the rebranded Thomson holidays. As such they do cheap 'packaged holidays', the type used by people who have no idea that there's a difference between charter and scheduled flights. TUI is for inexperienced tourists rather than travellers ...presumably for package holidays..This family had rotten luck and perhaps noone is to blame for their predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Source or it isn't true. Last I heard he will be charged and deported... seems severe if he really tested negative.... Do I really need to hear from someone who equates a deadly virus to a cut finger? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: 'Thailand deserves to suffer extreme economic damage due to this policy - and it will.' Some people might consider such a comment cruel and vindictive. Who do you want to see suffer? 'Thailand deserves to suffer' You mean the poor and the powerless deserve to suffer? Five people voted thanks for this comment! What a disgrace! Thailand and MOST of its people are suffering but the people who are "leading?" the country are not. The ones who are suffering most have no way out and nowhere to turn and nowhere else to go. The people in charge and the HiSos will never suffer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: I don't care where you come from or what race you are. Your comment however outed you already and it stands 555 Yes I am racist against my own race! So silly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 12 hours ago, ikke1959 said: Strange if you are in quarantaine in a hospital if there are no of only mild symptons.. It is all about money apparently A common but simplistic analysis. No. It's about attempting to control covid spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Reader are accusing this family for not knowing the rules. It is because the rules changed again, This family booked their whole trip at the SHA hotel assuming that if any member tested positive, they will stay at the same hotel. the new rule is :if tested positive you go to a hospital. the SHA hotel is not equipped to handle long term quarantine. or it does not have the facility. SO they had to go to the hospital to stay. double expenses This Norwegian travel agency does not want to inform the consequence if any traveler tested positive. they will loose the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 It’s pretty simple really and so obvious, too. Don’t fricking travel during a global pandemic and if you absolutely “must” travel then expect the unexpected and don’t b..ch about other countries’ procedures when the catch up to you! Case closed! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 59 minutes ago, Longwood50 said: Now which one are you saying can be trusted? I am from the USA and I can assure you that what they communicate is what they want you to believe not necessarily what is the truth. Scandinavian governments are normally considered pretty trustworthy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 with all the rules the one day stay at an SHA hotel is a problem if you were tested positive. SHA hotel are not designed for long-term quarantine. the next step is the hospital.- that is a given conclusion. - double expenses you can't plan a trip to Thailand not knowing the result of the first test and now the second test. Bangkok or Phuket.. does not matter the entry point into Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustAnotherHun Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, the green light said: Reader are accusing this family for not knowing the rules. It is because the rules changed again, This family booked their whole trip at the SHA hotel assuming that if any member tested positive, they will stay at the same hotel. the new rule is :if tested positive you go to a hospital. First, to assume is not to know. You can assume whatever you want, it's not important. Second. The rules did not change in that matter. If tested postive while staying in ASQ/SHA you'll madated to go to hospital quarantaine. so nothing has changed for these Norwegians since they decided to book Thailand. What they're doing is just shifting the blame. Edited January 1, 2022 by JustAnotherHun 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said: First, to assume is not to know. You can assume whatever you want, it's not important. Second. The rules did not change in that matter. If tested postive while staying in ASQ you'll madated to go to hospital quarantaine. so nothing has changed for these Norwegians since they decided to book Thailand. What they're doing is just shifting the blame. Did TUI know about recent rule changes? What is the legal position if they gave wrong advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, The Hammer2021 said: Did TUI know about recent rule changes? What is the legal position if they gave wrong advice? What rule change do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said: Scandinavian governments are normally considered pretty trustworthy. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Just now, the green light said: with all the rules the one day stay at an SHA hotel is a problem if you were tested positive. SHA hotel are not designed for long-term quarantine. the next step is the hospital.- that is a given conclusion. - double expenses But you don't need to be transferred to a hospital if no symptoms. ASQ Hotels (Alternative state quarantine) are designed to accommodate you for the entire length of stay be that 7 or 10 days or longer under the assumption you are positive until you leave. You are not allowed out of your room, no cleaners go in your room and food is left outside for you to collect from the door. A tenth of the price of a hospital stay. Plenty of those hotels about in Bangkok and Phuket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said: What rule change do you mean? Well precisely! There have been so many. I was responding to another poster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 travelers to Thailand have totally ignore the consequence of the covid rules. it is quite impossible for anyone coming to Thailand for 2 weeks vacation and plan to buy hotel reservation or even make travel arrangement to other places in Thailand. the "CATCH" is if anyone is tested positive, the next step is a stop at the hospital stay for the duration of the holiday and a one trip to the airport to catch the flight home. - double expenses. any 2 week visitors should consider the "what if scenario" when coming to Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, daveAustin said: Yes Indeed. A few of those types still loitering. TV’s always had em of course but it’s gotten a bit old in these times. Yes it must be dreadful when someone has a different opinion to you..lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 As long as there is a double PCR test within 5 days of arrival and the consequences of tested positive, Thailand has lost the rich "Cash cows" visitors from cold countries. Any parents are either ignorant, stupid or don't care about the rules to drag their children to a place like Thailand with special entry rules. They need to understand that these PCR test on arrival are not a "show and tell" .they are real and have consequences. Tourists coming on a short trip to Thailand should consider the implication if tested positive. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Virt said: Are the hospitals overburdened at the moment in Thailand? Can't see to find any threads on this forum and posters are usually fast enough to post if there is a problem. In Pattaya they are opening quarantine hotels now I believe. But even last year when we had nine such hotels they did not feature in many news reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Posts and replies trolling about racism have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 "They booked the same hotel for 10 days knowing if quarantine, they will stay at the same hotel." total ignorance and stupidity. their head is deep in frozen snow. quarantine rooms and sha rooms are not the same. different room, different floors. and quarantine room are more expensive- set up before travelling what a wasted idea to travel for the holidays to Thailand. It is not TUI fault, they sold them a SHA package based on a one day testing and not a quarantine room.. Assuming that they are tested negative they will stay in the same hotel.... Going to the hospital is not TUI fault but Thai government regulation about infected people .they cannot stay at the same hotel. Let me 55555 on them. You should have stayed home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: 'Thailand deserves to suffer extreme economic damage due to this policy - and it will.' Some people might consider such a comment cruel and vindictive. Who do you want to see suffer? 'Thailand deserves to suffer' You mean the poor and the powerless deserve to suffer? Five people voted thanks for this comment! What a disgrace! If you can see past your almost hysterical outrage, I very much agreed with and "thanked" this post ( I, like others, use "thank" to emphasise that I particularly agree with a post rather than just like it.). Why did I do that? Because Thailand's authorities rather seem to be very much complicit in what appears to be a form of racketeering, allowing money to be made from quarantine and unnecessary hospital detention. This does not deserve to go unnoticed in the international community. The only way to draw attention to the Thai authorities over this will be to damage the business, since the business owners and the government authorities are so intertwined. That doesn't mean that I wish to damage the prospects of the poor and powerless, nor those of the "honest traders" - I speak as one who has some (limited) interest in a tourist related business. Now at times I have "liked", maybe even perhaps "thanked" posts which you have made; but I am mindful, and rather agree, with those posters here suggesting that lately you have been actively baiting, trying to pick fights! Edited January 1, 2022 by herfiehandbag 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: But you don't need to be transferred to a hospital if no symptoms. ASQ Hotels (Alternative state quarantine) are designed to accommodate you for the entire length of stay be that 7 or 10 days or longer under the assumption you are positive until you leave. You are not allowed out of your room, no cleaners go in your room and food is left outside for you to collect from the door. A tenth of the price of a hospital stay. Plenty of those hotels about in Bangkok and Phuket. Yes last year at least 9 here in Pattaya. One massive one on our soi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the green light Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 9 hours ago, KhaoYai said: Quite true but this seems to be a case of one law for foreigners and another for Thai's. My Thai friend and her daughter came to Thailand to visit family in early December. Whist she was staying with her mother in Korat her mother became ill and tested positive for Covid. The mother was taken in to hospital but my friend and her daughter were allowed to isolate in her mother's house - obviously at no cost whatsoever. there is always a double standard between foreigner and thai people. you can't compare your thai friend experience with foreigner either expat or travelling to Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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