86Tiger Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Got to vote with the others. You best contact embassy right away. But then again there is evidently no rush. 8 days and I would be calling the cops. 8 weeks is absolutely crazy. Best of luck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 hours ago, DrJack54 said: And what exactly do the agents do for extensions marriage. Please outline Collate all the paperwork, do the running around..attend the IO, act as translator and general interlocutor. I used mine to help me renew my passport and convert my UK DL to Thai DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Ohyesuare said: I'd report it as stolen and get a new passport, seems like you have no choice. If your visa is expired and you didn't have your passport since, that means you're on overstay though? The problem with reporting it as stolen is that when he applies for a replacement he will be questioned and if his embassy discovers that he actually gave his passport to an agent and it wasn't stolen, that will constitute a false declaration on his application which is illegal and can result in prosecution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Is that the one with a French word in the title? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Collate all the paperwork, do the running around..attend the IO, act as translator and general interlocutor. I used mine to help me renew my passport and convert my UK DL to Thai DL. I have mentioned all of that in my earlier post. Your comment is irrelevant. "OP, what assistance did you require for a marriage extension? It's unusual for agents to assist with extensions marriage. They can deal with organization of docs etc. Not much else. Did you meet the financials. What was the agent required to do. Don't just state "obtain the extension" " Edited January 8, 2022 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, rodyy said: in last May I decided to use the service of a (well known) agent in Bangkok to renew my marriage visa. I didn't get my passport back after 8 months (the visa expired in August 2021). The agent won't say anything about the situation other than very vague stuff and she keeps pushing the date back. Report what has happened to your embassy and ask them about getting a replacement. Reporting her to the police first when you appear to be on a 5-month overstay doesn't seem to be a good idea. Edited January 8, 2022 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I have mentioned all of that in my earlier post. Your comment is irrelevant. "OP, what assistance did you require for a marriage extension? It's unusual for agents to assist with extensions marriage. They can deal with organization of docs etc. Not much else. Did you meet the financials. What was the agent required to do. Don't just state "obtain the extension" " Bloody hell is it your 'time of the month'? ???????? Edited January 8, 2022 by roo860 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, DrJack54 said: I asked the OP what the agent was actually doing on his behalf. Don't think the op has contributed as yet. Vague thread with little detail. He said that he gave his passport to an agent eight months ago and didn't get it back, that's all the specifics that matters, surely? The reason for his using the agent are irrelevant, particularly if he doesn't want to disclose that detail. Edited January 8, 2022 by Liverpool Lou 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I have mentioned all of that in my earlier post. Your comment is irrelevant. "OP, what assistance did you require for a marriage extension? It's unusual for agents to assist with extensions marriage. They can deal with organization of docs etc. Not much else. Did you meet the financials. What was the agent required to do. Don't just state "obtain the extension" " So don't ask irrelevant questions and don't read answers you consider irrelevant. You are not a boss on this forum and not on this thread. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, BritTim said: You may or may not be on overstay. That will depend on whether the passport was mislaid before or after the extension was processed. He can only be on overstay as his "visa" expired in August. Edited January 8, 2022 by Liverpool Lou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, roo860 said: Bloody hell is it your 'time of the month'? ???????? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: So don't ask irrelevant questions and don't read answers you consider irrelevant. You are not a boss on this forum and not on this thread. I asked the question "APART from document organization etc what can and agent do for marriage extension"? You don't see the difference. Anyway time for ignore. Been coming for some time. Edited January 8, 2022 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: The problem with reporting it as stolen is that when he applies for a replacement he will be questioned and if his embassy discovers that he actually gave his passport to an agent and it wasn't stolen, that will constitute a false declaration on his application which is illegal and can result in prosecution. No. If he gave his passport to a hotel and they didn't return it.....It would be legitimate to report it. Agents are legal entities and provide legitimate services. I have used them in UK, Saudi, Myanmar, Kuwait, Libya, Thailand. If an agent did not return my passport they would be reported.. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: The problem with reporting it as stolen is that when he applies for a replacement he will be questioned and if his embassy discovers that he actually gave his passport to an agent and it wasn't stolen, that will constitute a false declaration on his application which is illegal and can result in prosecution. Interesting point. If you employ an agent then are they not simply acting as your agent and you retain ultimate reponsibility. If your passport was stolen from your agent is it the same as being stolen from yourself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: The reason for his using the agent are irrelevant, particularly if he doesn't want to disclose that detail. The OP did actually explain why he used agent later. Something to do with certification of marriage doc. It's all in the thread. Have a read. It's very relevant as I cannot understand why he used visa agent for that. Actually strange thread in my thinking. Edited January 8, 2022 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 18 hours ago, rodyy said: Hey everyone, in last May I decided to use the service of a (well known) agent in Bangkok to renew my marriage visa. I didn't get my passport back after 8 months (the visa expired in August 2021). The agent won't say anything about the situation other than very vague stuff and she keeps pushing the date back. I had used the same agent previously without problems (other than an already long delay but it was ok). I'm a bit desperate at this point and was wondering if anyone had a similar experience? Any advice would be welcome. I'm a French citizen if that matters. I'm considering reporting her to the police and getting a new passport. Thanks! You've got pretty much every option now, come back on the thread and let us know how you get on 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I asked the question "APART from document organization etc what can and agent do for marriage extension"? You don't see the difference. Anyway time for ignore. Been coming for some time. A merciful relief..lol But just OOI What answer are you trying to elicit? To confirm your views? You have been answered comprehensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I'd be interested in how this could progress to 8 months. Surely, at some point (maybe after one month tops?) you need to draw the conclusion that something has gone wrong. What explanation did the agent give for the delay, and has there been any indication if the extension had been obtained before the passport went missing? Rocking up at your embassy and telling them that your passport hasn't been in your possession for a whopping 8 months probably won't be fun, as waiting this long to report it is pretty much indefensible and as you have no idea what your passport has been used for in the meanwhile (assuming that someone has it). Best case scenario, nobody has used it for anything nefarious, but it sure is something I'd be worried about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, klauskunkel said: The older I get the more I realize that most problems are self-inflicted. The older I get, the more I realize that there is considerable HELP in inflicting problems. Nothing occurs in a vacuum. Insane bureaucracy is not a personal choice. It is a "take it or leave it" proposition. Blaming yourself is an easy out but it explains nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Fugitive said: Interesting point. If you employ an agent then are they not simply acting as your agent and you retain ultimate reponsibility. If your passport was stolen from your agent is it the same as being stolen from yourself? Of course. Just as if your hotel manager lost or stole a passport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, gargamon said: A bit off topic, but since a new bank account is opened, and presumably closed at the withdrawal, could someone unable to open an account use this method to open one? Shady bank, shady agent... Yes, they can if an agent can be fund to do only that. The account doesn't close after the "immigration" withdrawal, you're usually required to deposit something (B1,000-ish) as a first deposit which remains as a balance after the withdrawal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Tiger Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: The problem with reporting it as stolen is that when he applies for a replacement he will be questioned and if his embassy discovers that he actually gave his passport to an agent and it wasn't stolen, that will constitute a false declaration on his application which is illegal and can result in prosecution. He will not report only "stolen" and nothing more to his embassy. He gives a complete report of all details. The embassy will have investigative personnel that will contact the agent. And most likely will involve local police as well. Just to say "stolen" is not what will occur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Caldera said: I'd be interested in how this could progress to 8 months. Surely, at some point (maybe after one month tops?) you need to draw the conclusion that something has gone wrong. What explanation did the agent give for the delay, and has there been any indication if the extension had been obtained before the passport went missing? Rocking up at your embassy and telling them that your passport hasn't been in your possession for a whopping 8 months probably won't be fun, as waiting this long to report it is pretty much indefensible and as you have no idea what your passport has been used for in the meanwhile (assuming that someone has it). Best case scenario, nobody has used it for anything nefarious, but it sure is something I'd be worried about. Yep...8 months is the sticking point...Its a very long time to have no passport? 90 day reporting? Vaccine registration? Out of province travel? Hospital visits? All these can or do require a passport. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Yes, they can if an agent can be fund to do only that. The account doesn't close after the "immigration" withdrawal, you're usually required to deposit something (B1,000-ish) as a first deposit which remains as a balance after the withdrawal. Of course the account remains open...for next year and as a working bank account 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Pravda said: I was always wondering how can these agents in Thailand operate legally. You are absolutely under no circumstances supposed to give your passport to anyone. When you do file that police report and state you willingly gave away your passport, you may not get another one again. That could be his biggest issue unless he lies and claims that it was stolen. Of course, he could just say that he lost it but then he'd have to provide his embassy with a convincing story about why he didn't report it lost 5 months ago. Then they'd find out that his visa expired, strangely, at the same time and that he was now on overstay. The hole will keep getting deeper! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said: 5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Yes, they can if an agent can be fund to do only that. The account doesn't close after the "immigration" withdrawal, you're usually required to deposit something (B1,000-ish) as a first deposit which remains as a balance after the withdrawal. Of course the account remains open...for next year and as a working bank account I know, that's what I said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said: I know, that's what I said! I was agreeing with you..lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, scorecard said: Or, using your passport in cahoots with a doctor or hospital staff to run a health insurance scam, or other insurance scams. What? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If you have not seen your passport in months then you must report it to the local and your embassy or consulate ASAP. It is definitely possible your passport information could have been used by someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Caldera said: I'd be interested in how this could progress to 8 months. Surely, at some point (maybe after one month tops?) you need to draw the conclusion that something has gone wrong. There is something wrong with the thread. The OP gave very little input. Then 8 months later and complain on a forum is just strange. Should never have gotten to this stage. The use of agent to certify some marriage certificate was not explained fully. Someone asked in the thread what exactly was required (other than myself). Always 2 sides to the story and I can't follow OP,s account of events. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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