Pub-like restaurants become hotspots for Bangkok COVID-19 clusters

[hotchilli]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

 

And the stores like Makro, Big C and Lotus. Those superstores are super safe! 

Absolutely... like the girl at the entrance to Big C the other day, playing on the phone while people walked in without any checks.

[NanLaew]

On 1/15/2022 at 11:57 AM, Ralf001 said:

On 1/15/2022 at 11:54 AM, NanLaew said:

A chance but NOT a certainty and NOT at your expense.

 

Here you go @Pinot, all the information you need.

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/what-to-do-if-you-test-positive-for-covid-19-in-thailand

Those that do not qualify for home isolation get a free stay at a quarantine hotel ?

 

"To qualify for home isolation, patient must be younger than 65 years old with no health conditions that put them at risk of a severe infection. They must also be asymptomatic, or only have mild symptoms, and have living space where they can isolate from others. Those travelling in Thailand may be subject to quarantine at an approved hotel at their expense"

 

We have no idea if the OP is one of 'those traveling' but I think that if you have a fixed abode, your chances of getting whisked away to a cardboard bed gulag is somewhat reduced.

 

YMMV

TiT

[NanLaew]

2 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Absolutely... like the girl at the entrance to Big C the other day, playing on the phone while people walked in without any checks.

But you stopped and checked didn't you?

 

People have to stop worrying about what other people are doing or not doing. Do your own very best to be sensible and compliant and let others worry about the consequences of their behavior.

 

It's like driving here. The only thing you have control over is yourself (and your road rage).

[OishiRefill]

On 1/15/2022 at 12:13 PM, NanLaew said:

 

"To qualify for home isolation, patient must be younger than 65 years old with no health conditions that put them at risk of a severe infection. They must also be asymptomatic, or only have mild symptoms, and have living space where they can isolate from others. Those travelling in Thailand may be subject to quarantine at an approved hotel at their expense"

 

We have no idea if the OP is one of 'those traveling' but I think that if you have a fixed abode, your chances of getting whisked away to a cardboard bed gulag is somewhat reduced.

 

YMMV

TiT

Hey that's reassuring for a lot of people I'd imagine. Be a nightmare to be escorted instantly from a mobile testing station to a quarantine centre, without having had a chance to make suitable provisions for dependent humans or pets, for example.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

 

And the stores like Makro, Big C and Lotus. Those superstores are super safe! 

"And daily markets... safest place to be." In my local daily market, which is an indoor market, you are in danger of being hit by some idiot on a motorbike, it is almost impossible to walk from one end to the other without someone on a motorbike trying to squeeze past. On one occasion I was hit by a motorbike ridden by a school teacher.

[MrJ2U]

On 1/15/2022 at 9:47 AM, stephenterry said:

 

 

Smarter to get vaccinated.

 

If you come down with COVID your less likely to crowd the already packed and overwhelmed hospitals.

 

Bangkok Hospital in had no more room's available Thursday.

 

You may still get COVID-19,have milder symptoms and actually have super immunity.

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[stephenterry]

On 1/15/2022 at 2:31 PM, MrJ2U said:

Smarter to get vaccinated.

 

If you come down with COVID your less likely to crowd the already packed and overwhelmed hospitals.

 

Bangkok Hospital in had no more room's available Thursday.

 

You may still get COVID-19,have milder symptoms and actually have super immunity.

I have recovered from Covid, possibly twice, although the second infection was minor in comparison to the first. I have natural and strong immunity, I am not suffering from underlying illness, my dietary regime is healthy, and extra jabs would be ineffective, IMO.  So no, it's not smarter.

 

I could be infected by Omicron which is not a big deal for me, as could those who have been  vaxxed to the hilt, and I'm sure that I'll also recover from that with mild symptoms if the science is correct. 

 

 

 

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[MrJ2U]

4 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

So no, it's not smarter.

It is.

 

Not only that traveling now unvaccinated is getting more difficult.

 

'One study published in late October 2021 by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found unvaccinated adults who tested positive three to six months earlier were five times more likely to test positive for the virus than vaccinated adults who hadn’t previously been infected"

 

https://m.dw.com/en/omicron-is-natural-immunity-better-than-a-vaccine/a-60425426

 

If you end needing hospitalization there's virtual not many rooms available and if you do happen to get a private room it'll run upwards of 20,000-30,000 baht a day.

 

Getting vaccinated to Lower your risk is the smart thing to do.

 

 

 

[Hepbub]

I can understand nightclubs being closed as they are usually in an enclosed space. But lots of bars are completely open at the front or sides, some only have a roof with shutters put up when they close. Most people (not all I admit) that I socialise with are double vaccinated wash hands and wear masks except when eating or drinking, why can't we go to a pub and have a couple of drinks? If you can socialise in a restaurant, should be able to socialise in a pub!

[Purdey]

While there seems to be a lower death rate for Omicron, people who still don't think the vaccine works should understand it isn't dying that's the problem faced by hospitals, it's taking up beds that people in need of operations or other important non-covid medical treatment are denied. 

Now, if antivaxxers only had a card that said "don't give me a hospital bed or medical treatment as I am suffering from a non-existent virus" people would not be concerned. 

 

[Pinot]

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

A chance but NOT a certainty and NOT at your expense.

 

Here you go @Pinot, all the information you need.

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/what-to-do-if-you-test-positive-for-covid-19-in-thailand

Yeah, tried all these. No response at any of these numbers.

[Pinot]

7 hours ago, Clarkey611 said:

The wife and youngest have just returned after being incarcerated in the Krung Thep Palais for 10 days. Total cost of 106,000 for the wife and 94,000 for the youngest.

 

Three people shared each room and there is a fee for the room of 3,000 per person per night. Somebody is making money on this together with the cost of the medicine (25.000 per person).

Amazing! We're on the tail end of this after four days and certainly don't belong in a hospital. What do you say? If you covid and not very sick keep it to yourself? 200,000 baht for what? Paracetamol and bad food? 

[NanLaew]

Nobody can claim to have natural immunity. Immunity means you cannot catch it.

 

People who have caught it before and those who are vaccinated have a higher resistance to infection or re-infection but they do not have immunity.

 

The omicron variant has blown the infection or re-infection science that was based on the delta variant clean out of the water. When delta hit, most people were un-vaccinated. When the more infectious omicron came along more people were vaccinated. This does not mean that vaccines don't work.

 

The fact that there's a high incidence of re-infection being found in those already vaccinated is because for most western nations, the majority of the population is double-vaccinated already but they are not immune. Nobody is. The hospitalizations and serious cases from omicron still are predominantly in the older, vaccinated or otherwise. This does not mean that vaccines don't work either.

 

Nobody's immune to the flu either. Some people are more susceptible and some people aren't troubled by it. I recall I caught it only once when I was younger and I never bothered with flu jabs as I got older and supposedly at greater risk. My parents, following NHS UK recommendations got their annual flu jabs and never caught it either.

[MrJ2U]

7 hours ago, stephenterry said:

no factual realities

"Yes, the COVID-19 vaccines are recommended, even if you had COVID-19. At present, evidence from Johns Hopkins Medicine and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) supports getting a COVID-19 vaccine as the best protection against getting COVID-19, whether you have already had the virus or not."

 

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know

 

Smart thing to do is get vaccinated.

period.

[onthedarkside]

A series of misinformation posts wrongly suggesting, without any source or attribution, that a prior Omicron infection gives people some kind of permanent immunity against future COVID infections have been removed.

 

[SS1]

On 1/14/2022 at 8:08 PM, Petey11 said:

If they actually tested and published true numbers maybe people would listen to them. If I was in Bangkok and saw a figure of only 1000 odd I'd think' No problems here, population 7-8million, virus is not widespread, carry on as normal. Reap what you sow.

The reported numbers are only a fraction of the real numbers no doubt. But does it matter?

In my group of friends over 10 caught it on New Year's Eve. For over half of them it was just a mild cold that went away in 2-4 days, while for the rest (myself included) it was like a regular a flu that lasted 6-10 days. Everyone recovered without issues and is back to normal now.