possum1931 15991 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 My Forza is nearly 7 years old, it had to get the battery changed at about 12000 Ks, now bike has done about 45 Ks and battery still working fine. Should I just renew it now as it has had more than a good innings, to save any hassle of it giving up at an awkward time, or is there still a chance it could last for a few thousand more Ks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Lowf 440 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) In my experience automotive batteries tend to degrade gradually rather than catastrophically - if you can leave the bike for a few days and it still fires up quickly then I think the battery is fine. Edited January 23 by London Lowf 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 17433 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Does it have a kick start? my Click battery after 4 years\36km suddenly died last week, no real warning apart from slight flickery speedo. If you have a kick start or battery charge reading no need to replace, if not maybe replace when due Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Does it have a kick start? my Click battery after 4 years\36km suddenly died last week, no real warning apart from slight flickery speedo. If you have a kick start or battery charge reading no need to replace, if not maybe replace when due No kickstart, sometimes bike left for up to a week without using, and always starts very quickly. I am just worried that the battery might let me down at an awkward time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 17433 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, possum1931 said: No kickstart, sometimes bike left for up to a week without using, and always starts very quickly. I am just worried that the battery might let me down at an awkward time. no battery charge readout on screen? i imagine a battery dying will go down low and not be recharging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said: no battery charge readout on screen? i imagine a battery dying will go down low and not be recharging I can't see one, unless a Forza owner can say, It would be really handy if there was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbko 3768 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 You might be able to squeeze so more life out it by doing some minor maintenance, clean the posts & connectors, top up with distilled water, or even test it with a multimeter (or have a batter shop check) to see if the volts are good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al 3842 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Good lord.!! Replace the old battery; don't replace it. Up to you. Sheesh !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal 10018 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, London Lowf said: In my experience automotive batteries tend to degrade gradually rather than catastrophically My experience is entirely the opposite. Walk out one morning , nothing. No warning just dead. 7 years is pretty good. Simply go to Honda and get another. Good for another 7 years. If you must buy a cheap multimeter and measure the voltage in the morning. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts 915 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Forza doesn't have a kick start, best to take it to local kids at your corner shop and ask them to check the voltage (if they have a working voltmeter), when engine Off and when switched On, then let us know and maybe we can help more... , I had batteries didn't last 2 years and others that go on and on for years ...! (Bike is 7 years, how old it the battery...!? Mentioned km, but years is more important...) Edited January 23 by Agusts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 16 minutes ago, Agusts said: Forza doesn't have a kick start, best to take it to local kids at your corner shop and ask them to check the voltage (if they have a working voltmeter), when engine Off and when switched On, then let us know and maybe we can help more... , I had batteries didn't last 2 years and others that go on and on for years ...! (Bike is 7 years, how old it the battery...!? Mentioned km, but years is more important.) The battery is about 5 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodThaiMaiDai 297 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 hours ago, papa al said: Good lord.!! Replace the old battery; don't replace it. Up to you. Sheesh !! I was going to say the same thing. If you are that worried about it, I would just replace it or add it to you "to do list:" in the next few weeks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston broke 376 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/23/2022 at 2:21 PM, papa al said: Good lord.!! Replace the old battery; don't replace it. Up to you. Sheesh !! we're not all as wealthy as you poppa .... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld 2450 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Milage of the bike has not much to do with battery health. Much more important are long periods of sitting without usage, high temperatures etc. As said if it fires up quickly even after a week of not being used then why replace it? A battery will most likely show signs of weakness before it completely craps out. And it's easy to source a new one. If you want to, you can also go to one of the common battery shops and let them measure the CCA (Cold Cranking Amps). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, eisfeld said: Milage of the bike has not much to do with battery health. Much more important are long periods of sitting without usage, high temperatures etc. As said if it fires up quickly even after a week of not being used then why replace it? A battery will most likely show signs of weakness before it completely craps out. And it's easy to source a new one. If you want to, you can also go to one of the common battery shops and let them measure the CCA (Cold Cranking Amps). Does go a few days without usage, always kept in the shade. no long road trips in the past year because of the Cvirus. I take what you said about CCA, though I'm confused about the common battery shops and where they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal 10018 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 hours ago, possum1931 said: though I'm confused about the common battery shops and where they are. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam 52096 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Batteries on our bikes have lasted around 5 years, when they failed there was no warning, no kickstart on the PCX was a pain. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VocalNeal 10018 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 hours ago, piston broke said: we're not all as wealthy as you poppa .... https://www.lazada.co.th/products/battery-bigbike-ytz12-i3309031369-s12261464035.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.15.5f7d5f14ltBCjF&search=1 1450 Baht Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 25 Author Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: https://www.lazada.co.th/products/battery-bigbike-ytz12-i3309031369-s12261464035.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.15.5f7d5f14ltBCjF&search=1 1450 Baht When I bought the bike new in 1916, the original battery only lasted 12.000Ks, the replacement bought from a Honda agent cost around 5000Bt and has lasted about 33.000Ks and still going strong. I am assuming one of these 1450Bt batteries was on the bike when I bought it, so I expect to pay about 5000Bt rather than one from Lazada's dodgy sellers. But Thanks anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal 10018 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 12 minutes ago, possum1931 said: the replacement bought from a Honda agent cost around 5000Bt Yes I was surprised when I looked at Honda Parts Electronic Catalogue. Between about 3500 and 6000. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 17433 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, VocalNeal said: or I wouldn't go to Castrol Bike Point again the boss of a shop was clearly trying to overcharge me for new tyres, he was truly thicker than a Kwik-Fit fitter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts 915 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 How about Lithium battery...! ? They all raving about it , last longer and better voltage stability AND smaller and weigh less ... , not sure how much they go for nowadays... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum1931 15991 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 6 hours ago, Agusts said: How about Lithium battery...! ? They all raving about it , last longer and better voltage stability AND smaller and weigh less ... , not sure how much they go for nowadays... I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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