On 2/11/2022 at 10:44 AM, billsmart said:

If he wasn't changing lanes, then he was turning right. Either way, it's the buggy-drives fault, IMO....

IF the buggy driver was a more cautious, the accident would not have occurred.

IF the motorcyclist was a more cautious the accident would not have occurred. 

 

In Thailand many accidents occur because two parties drive / ride without caution or care. 

 

 

Well, if I understand it, the incident happened on private property, so not sure if the driving rules are gazetted by the juristic manager of the complex.

 

Additionally, there are speed limit signs of 30 km in my Muban and I would expect in the Muban in question also.

 

None, of these deliver guys, take any notice of the speed limit restrictions and regularly speed through our Muban 

 

That motorbike in the video IMHO was travelling too fast in a residential Muban to take an invasive action safely. .

3 minutes ago, berrec said:

That motorbike in the video IMHO was travelling too fast in a residential Muban to take an invasive action safely. .

I don't think anyone should be taking invasive actions.

Kids fault.  This is just another manifestation of the old "if the farang was not in Thailand there would not have been and accident" argument.

14 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

I don't think anyone should be taking invasive actions.

Avoid invasive actions at all cost.????

i feel very sorry for the poor guy. But as long as they not slow down a bit or know the meaning of wait a bit, this will go on and on.

8 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

i feel very sorry for the poor guy. But as long as they not slow down a bit or know the meaning of wait a bit, this will go on and on.

slow down from what speed? Are you able to determine that he was speeding from that video? If so, how?

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

slow down from what speed? Are you able to determine that he was speeding from that video? If so, how?

It's probably difficult for you but try to see it in a wider range. 

16 hours ago, berrec said:

That motorbike in the video IMHO was travelling too fast in a residential Muban to take an invasive action safely. .

How does a motorcyclist take evasive action when a golf buggy suddenly changes course and takes out the back wheel of the overtaking motorbike? Both parties culpable and more so the buggy driver.

21 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

It's probably difficult for you but try to see it in a wider range. 

what does that mean?

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

golf buggy suddenly changes course and takes out the back wheel of the overtaking motorbike?

But the motorcyclist should never have been trying to overtake at that point. If he hadn't tried to do it where he did he may well have avoided the collision.

1 hour ago, WorriedNoodle said:

How does a motorcyclist take evasive action when a golf buggy suddenly changes course and takes out the back wheel of the overtaking motorbike? Both parties culpable and more so the buggy driver.

motorcyclist should never have been so close to the buggy in the first place, should not have been in the buggy's lane while overtaking, should not have overtaken at a crosswalk, and should have slowed down at the first sign of unanticipated conditions.

 

one thing that is remarkable about about many Thai drivers is that too often they don't slow down when there is a sudden obstacle ahead. many prefer to veer, often without checking if the other lane is free or not.

 

middle aged and older people on motorcycles making their left turns without looking for incoming traffic are way too common too.

 

On 2/14/2022 at 9:26 AM, ozimoron said:

slow down from what speed? Are you able to determine that he was speeding from that video? If so, how?

But you were magically able to determine the buggy driver's guilt from that short clip.

 

Please stick to the day job, don't apply to become a driving instructor.

On 2/14/2022 at 5:26 AM, ozimoron said:

slow down from what speed? Are you able to determine that he was speeding from that video? If so, how?

I think the fact that the motorcyclist ‘flew’ out of camera shot and the fact that he broke both his wrists indicate he was not travelling at a speed more suitable for a moo-baan.

 

Its quite obvious from the video itself that the motorcyclist was travelling too fast.

The speed can be visually compared to the speed of the motorcyclist travelling in the oncoming direction at the beginning of the clip.

 

This does not mean that the buggy driver is not also complicit - they both operated their vehicles poorly. 

- The buggy driver was careless (driving without full care and attention - turned without checking behind him)

- The motorcyclist was reckless (riding way to fast, overtaking at a crossing, overtaking in a moo-baan, not riding with the understanding that others will turn into drive ways etc)

 

 

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