Seems the Unvaccinated Topic hit home, 50/50 in response

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/15/2022 at 4:57 PM, FarFlungFalang said:

If mutation predictions are based on the number of infections how does one predict the number of infections?I don't remember anyone predicting infections like the ones we are seeing from Omicron and I vaguely remember some saying corona viruses don't mutate often which was maybe because the didn't really understand what they were capable of.

Sorry I just can't swallow your statement that mutations are predictable.I also don't believe scientist and medical experts actually know why this these viruses behave the way they do nor do I believe they know how they behave the way they do.

You make statements like   "In vaccinated people there is generally less replication of the virus and with it less of a chance of a mutation occurring."Yet it is the random nature of mutations that is the problem as they don't know where they occur or why they occur so I can't see how they are predictable as you claim they are.

Well said. How can anyone know the true rate of infection when many have never been tested, and the infection apparently has little effect on some that are infected- seems some never know they are infected till they have a test? Because of imposed isolation if a positive test, I'm certain many will never be tested and even continue working so long as symptoms are mild or not obvious because they need the money.

So long as testing isn't made mandatory I'll never get tested, unless I have symptoms. I'm not going to risk a false positive and being forced to isolate needlessly. After all, those that worry about it will have been double vaccinated, boosted and wear a mask all the time, won't they?

[Bkk Brian]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

After all, those that worry about it will have been double vaccinated, boosted and wear a mask all the time, won't they?

Yes probably if they had access to boosters but this is Thailand and they don't. By far the majority have not been boosted yet. Latest figure is 27%, its too slow for those who want protection. I've been boosted, paid for it for a moderna full shot, but I don't wear a mask all the time only where appropriate.

Edited February 22, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[onthedarkside]

A misinformation post touting some unapproved, unproven substances as "known covid cures" has been removed, along with a reply.

[Bkk Brian]

A lesson in misinformation and how it is easily spread, this particular one referencing retracted study on hydroxychloroquine and another treatment

 

Hundreds of peer-reviewed papers have cited a retracted study on COVID-19

February 21, 2022

Amid the madness of spring to summer 2020, it was impossible to keep up with the influx of publications about COVID-19. (It still is today, but that time was particularly exhausting in terms of knowing what to pay attention to.)

 

Two high-profile studies in that maelstrom — one on hydroxychloroquine and one exploring COVID-19 outcomes in patients taking ACE inhibitors for heart disease — were ultimately retracted because they used likely fraudulent data from Surgisphere, a company claiming to have a huge patient database available for researchers’ use.

 

A total of 652 articles (all listed here) were verified as peer-reviewed publications citing the retracted study.

 

The findings carry a lesson for journalists covering medical studies.

 

https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2022/02/hundreds-of-peer-reviewed-papers-have-cited-a-retracted-study-on-covid-19/

Edited February 23, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, rumak said:

i believe this is called fascism ...... like censorship .        "was never to be used as a measure of vaccine effectiveness"        hahahhahaha            ok, just misinformation.    thanks bud

Perhaps read the full report then you'll see why,rather than missrepresent statistics without the data input behind it. 

Pathetic attempts at minimizing the vaccines protective benifits.