Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Russians will win this war.

do you know the lottery winning numbers, dare to share

[transam]

6 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Russians will win this war.

????........Your name wouldn't be Haw Haw would it...?  ????

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:

No, they won’t. Ukraine right now is kicking some serious Russian @ss.

 

 

Denys agrees - pls excuse the ad. 

 

 

[LosLobo]

A couple of interesting tweets from Julia Davis.

 

In one the propagandists are now claiming that they are virtually fighting for peace.

 

I have always thought that the concept was mutually exclusive.

 

In the other they are arguing among themselves. Their military experts are telling them that Putin plans are failing.

 

Obviously, the Ukrainian recent gains are starting to bite.

 

 

 

[LosLobo]

7 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Russians will win this war.

Here is my take:

 

I suggest that Putin has not now enough trained troops or modern weapons to plug the leaks in his defences.

 

He obviously has moved troops from Kharkiv to Kherson and this has left him vulnerable.

 

The longer his leaves moving new forces to Ukraine he risks a winter and spring offensive, and we know how that went for him last time and also for Napoleon and Hitler.

 

Waiting to next summer will be too late.

 

He is going to get screwed and there will be only one outcome.
 

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, LosLobo said:

A couple of interesting tweets from Julia Davis.

 

In one the propagandists are now claiming that they are virtually fighting for peace.

 

I have always thought that the concept was mutually exclusive.

 

In the other they are arguing among themselves. Their military experts are telling them that Putin plans are failing.

 

Obviously, the Ukrainian recent gains are starting to bite.

 

 

 

"In one the propagandists are now claiming that they are virtually fighting for peace.

 

I have always thought that the concept was mutually exclusive."

 

You've never heard of fighting for peace?

 

It's sort of like <deleted> for virginity, but not as much fun.

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

"In one the propagandists are now claiming that they are virtually fighting for peace.

 

I have always thought that the concept was mutually exclusive."

 

You've never heard of fighting for peace?

 

It's sort of like <deleted> for virginity, but not as much fun.

My ex-wife used to say <deleted> for fun was as absurd as fighting for peace.

[tgw]

13 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Russians will win this war.

since the post reactions seem functionally challenged, I will comment "ROFLMAO"

 

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This is some very good news. Well, if you don't support the Russians

Ukraine recaptures Kupiansk potentially trapping thousands of Russian troops
The town is where rail lines linking Russia to eastern Ukraine converge meaning soldiers could be cut off from supplies to Ukraine’s benefit

Ukraine's flag has been raised above Kupiansk in the northeast of the country, six months after Russian forces captured the strategically located town...

Eyewitnesses have said Russian soldiers were fleeing Ukrainian troops in what has become a rout.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/10/ukraine-recaptures-kupiansk-potentially-trapping-thousands-russian/

Edited September 10, 2022 by placeholder

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When it rains, it pours. And it looks like Ukraine is having a monsoon moment: Now comes word that the Russians have fled Izium, which is a very major city in Kharkiv and the staging post for Russian aggression in Donbas

Russian Forces Flee as Ukraine Makes Rapid Eastern Push

Thousands of Russian troops retreated in the face of a lightning Ukrainian offensive in the Kharkiv region that threatens to derail the Kremlin’s bid to cement control of Ukraine’s east. 

A local Moscow-backed official and pro-Russian military bloggers said Saturday that Moscow’s forces had pulled out of Izyum, a staging post for the campaign in Donbas, to avoid being encircled....

Daniil Bezsonov, first deputy minister of information for the Moscow-backed Donetsk People’s Republic in Donbas, said the Russian military had abandoned Izyum and some other localities in Kharkiv.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-10/russian-forces-flee-as-ukrainian-army-makes-swift-eastern-push

 

 

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I don't think I've ever used a meme before but just this once...

https://twitter.com/uamemesforces/status/1568509843421499395/photo/1

[Bkk Brian]

Run rabbit, run rabbit, run run run

 

Ukraine counter-offensive: Russian forces retreat as Ukraine takes key towns

 

Russia's admission of a withdrawal from Izyum is significant because it was a major military hub for Moscow.

 

Shortly afterwards, the chief administrator of Russian-controlled parts of the Kharkiv region recommended that its residents evacuate to Russia "to save lives", according to the Russian state-run Tass news agency.

 

And the governor of the neighbouring Belgorod region, in Russia, said mobile catering, heating, and medical assistance would be available to people queuing to cross the border.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62860774

[LosLobo]

Another interesting update from Jake Broe.

 

This one is a de-brief of the Ukrainian counter-offensive in the Kharkiv area.

 

 

[ballpoint]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Run rabbit, run rabbit, run run run

 

Ukraine counter-offensive: Russian forces retreat as Ukraine takes key towns

 

Russia's admission of a withdrawal from Izyum is significant because it was a major military hub for Moscow.

 

Shortly afterwards, the chief administrator of Russian-controlled parts of the Kharkiv region recommended that its residents evacuate to Russia "to save lives", according to the Russian state-run Tass news agency.

 

And the governor of the neighbouring Belgorod region, in Russia, said mobile catering, heating, and medical assistance would be available to people queuing to cross the border.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62860774

While thoroughly applauding the push back from the Ukrainians, and rushing back to Russia of the Russians, the pessimist in me keeps replaying a line from "Black Adder" in my head: "Not even our generals are mad enough to shell their own men".  Replace "shell" with "nuke" and you get the gist of what I'm thinking about.  Not even Putin may be mad enough to nuke his own men, but he may be mad enough to nuke Ukraine once his men are out of the way.  Lets hope not.

[ballpoint]

On a lighter note, the female residents in the former Russian occupied towns have been dancing in the streets upon seeing their liberators, singing "Ukrainian men, hallelujah!"

[tgw]

the northern Ruzzian front seems to have collapsed.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3568896-invaders-collaborators-fleeing-from-luhansk-region-toward-russia-regional-chief.html

 

there seems to be some kind of news blackout, but there are Ruzzian social media posts saying Ruzzians are running from Svatove, and even from Luhansk too.

I don't know if this is Ukrainian propaganda trying to amplify the rout or if these are genuine and Ukrainian troops are just being careful to not get hit by a Ruzzian counterattack.

[Bruno123]

Strong article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/11/putin-finished-ukrainians-have-ropes-stunning-victory-sights/

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling video has been reported and removed. 

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

Strong article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/11/putin-finished-ukrainians-have-ropes-stunning-victory-sights/

No paywall from this link

https://web.archive.org/web/20220911093158/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/11/putin-finished-ukrainians-have-ropes-stunning-victory-sights/

[tgw]

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here is a link:

https://www.facebook.com/euromaidanpress.en/videos/614339233696988

Edited September 11, 2022 by tgw

[Bkk Brian]

Exclusive: Russian soldiers 'literally running' for their lives as chain of command collapses

Ukraine intelligence unit tells The Telegraph they are struggling to deal with the mountains of equipment left behind after rout

 

In the face of a shock Ukrainian offensive, the Russian chain of command has been broken and soldiers were fleeing without putting up a fight, many of them changing into civilian clothes to avoid detection, a commander told The Telegraph.

 

And the speed of the offensive had even taken their own army by surprise, with Ukrainian troops struggling to recover the mountains of Russian ammunition and armoured vehicles left behind, according to one drone operator.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20220911141331/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/11/exclusive-russian-soldiers-literally-running-lives-chain-command/

 

[Credo]

I can't imagine how angry Putin is and I don't want to think about how he may retaliate.  

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Exclusive: Russian soldiers 'literally running' for their lives as chain of command collapses

Ukraine intelligence unit tells The Telegraph they are struggling to deal with the mountains of equipment left behind after rout

 

In the face of a shock Ukrainian offensive, the Russian chain of command has been broken and soldiers were fleeing without putting up a fight, many of them changing into civilian clothes to avoid detection, a commander told The Telegraph.

 

And the speed of the offensive had even taken their own army by surprise, with Ukrainian troops struggling to recover the mountains of Russian ammunition and armoured vehicles left behind, according to one drone operator.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20220911141331/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/09/11/exclusive-russian-soldiers-literally-running-lives-chain-command/

 

Vlad is having an hard time keep them on the job  555

Putin ‘fires army commander after just 16 days’ amid major losses in Kharkiv

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-fires-army-commander-just-001352190.html

Moscow Officials Urge Putin to GTFO: ‘Everything Went Wrong’

https://news.yahoo.com/moscow-officials-urge-putin-gtfo-030517069.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Moscow local politicians call on Putin to resign

https://newsingermany.com/moscow-local-politicians-call-on-putin-to-resign/

 

 

 

 

[Mavideol]

either you are with me or else......

Local Russian lawmakers called for Putin's removal from power over the war in Ukraine, and then the police went after them

https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-lawmakers-call-for-putin-removal-from-power-over-ukraine-2022-9

Moscow Municipal Lawmakers Demand Putin's Resignation

https://www.rferl.org/a/moscow-municipal-lawmakers-demand-putin-resignation/32027762.html

[sammieuk1]

Unofficial reports the Russians have surrendered in Kherson hope its true ???? 

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1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said:

Unofficial reports the Russians have surrendered in Kherson hope its true ???? 

When I read your comment I thought you were being at best mischievous when you wrote that. It turns out that there are reports that this is the case. It seems to good to be true, though.

Putin reeling as elite marine unit mutinies and troops prepare to 'surrender' in Kherson

VLADIMIR PUTIN is facing a mutiny among his elite troops on the Kherson front after they sustained massive losses...

It comes amid unconfirmed reports that Russian forces in Kherson city could be on the brink of surrendering. The Russian President has seen his army take a complete battering in recent days, as Ukraine continues its counteroffensive on two fronts. Kyiv's army has brushed aide all Russian resistance in the northeast as it continues its rapid advance in the Kharkiv region.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1667998/putin-news-russian-marines-mutiny-kherson-kharkiv-counter-ukraine-war-latest

[Bkk Brian]

Still not official but lots of hope.

 

Spokesperson of Operation command "South": some Russian units at Kherson frontline negotiating surrendering their weapons

 

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1569272612345319425

 

[Credo]

I suspect either the ammunition from North Korea didn't arrive or they are shooting blanks.

 

[BarraMarra]

Oh dear another retaliatory strike Russia aimlessly fired missiles knocking out a Power Station non-military of course just inflicting power supply's to Civilians who we all know Putin lied when he said " We are not harming Civilians We are Liberating them ''  

[Bkk Brian]

Ukraine Pulled Off a Masterstroke, Ukrainian leaders announced one counteroffensive against Russia—but had another in the works.

 

This stunning Ukrainian advance was anything but sudden. It resulted from a patient military buildup, excellent operational security, and, maybe most important, the diversion of some of the Russian army’s most powerful units from Kharkiv Oblast itself. The overall planning by the Ukrainian government and armed forces worked well on so many levels that it produced one of the greatest military-strategy successes since 1945.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-russia-putin-kharkiv-kupyansk/671407/