Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Wobblybob]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's interesting that the guys that are all for the war against Russia choose to post on here rather than volunteer to go fight for Ukraine. Perhaps they'd rather other people do the fighting while they stay safe behind their keyboard.

It is also interesting the people that think that Putin should be rewarded for his illegal invasion of Ukraine and that is without mentioning all the horrific crimes the Russians have committed in Ukraine. You appease Putin if you want to but count me out!

Nearly going to Vietnam does not make you Sgt Rock!

[Seppius]

On 5/7/2024 at 11:56 AM, Jingthing said:

Ukraine doesn't need to hit 100 percent to have a big impact. 

You are right, already more than 15%, it's refineries they are hitting not oil production

 

"Drone strikes on Russian oil refineries and their economic impact have become one of the more successful Ukrainian campaigns"

 

https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/04/03/ukrainian-strikes-on-russian-oil-refineries-whats-the-impact

[Mavideol]

and while some keep unnecessarily arguing back and forth, Russians wet their pants and decided that safer better than sorry... 555

 

Satellite images show Russia no longer using Crimean bridge to supply troops in Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/satellite-images-show-russia-no-093811228.html

 

[Mavideol]

and they are trying to kill by any means the (little) one who stood up to them

Ukraine foils Russian assassination plot targeting Zelensky

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-foils-russian-assassination-plot-130440376.html

[johng]

Just now, Mavideol said:

Russia no longer using Crimean bridge to supply troops in Ukraine

Perhaps they have built alternative supply routes ?

[Mavideol]

Just now, johng said:

Perhaps they have built alternative supply routes ?

yes, indeed, through the UK  555

[johng]

3 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and they are trying to kill by any means the (little) one who stood up to them

Kettle black.

[Mavideol]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Kettle black.

you did open the door, I just walked in, no sense of humor, pity

[johng]

^^^

No idea what any of that means so awarded you a confused emoji.

[Gweiloman]

41 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and while some keep unnecessarily arguing back and forth, Russians wet their pants and decided that safer better than sorry... 555

 

Satellite images show Russia no longer using Crimean bridge to supply troops in Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/satellite-images-show-russia-no-093811228.html

 

Yes, what a coincidence 

1) this story appears in the Independent, as opposed to the Guardian or the Telegraph or FT etc

2) this story appears not long after the UK Ambassador to Russia was summoned for a meeting 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-summons-uk-ambassador-lord-150100299.html?guccounter=1

 

After all, it’s not as if Russia said all targets in Ukraine AND BEYOND or that Russia is conducting drills with nukes…

[Gweiloman]

45 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and they are trying to kill by any means the (little) one who stood up to them

Ukraine foils Russian assassination plot targeting Zelensky

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-foils-russian-assassination-plot-130440376.html

Ukraine said it. Must be true then. Those dastardly Russians.

 

In other news, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/05/putin-promised-me-he-would-not-kill-zelenskiy-says-former-israeli-pm-naftali-bennett

 

Putin is a smart man. Killing Zelensky runs the risk of someone smart replacing Zelensky. When playing football, you don’t “take out” your opponent’s weakest player.

[tgw]

2 hours ago, johng said:

Kettle black.

 

nope, there is no pot.
there's just a dirty, filthy, disgusting black kettle.

[connda]

Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

At the rate of the Russian accelerating advance, give this thread until around August or September and the title will be relevant again. 
That is if Europe (and the entire world for that matter) isn't one large smoking hole.  Well - you won't have to worry about "global warming" caused by cow farts after the first 24 hours as "nuclear winter" sets in.  After which everyone's visceral hatred for other ethnicity and nations they have been raised to hate since birth will be a completely moot point.  Ya'll be too busy fighting off your neighbors for a few grains of rice and some canned food.  "Hummm, where's my old CD of "A Boy And His Dog?"

So I'll leave you with Mark Twain's The War Prayer for all of you wishing Hell On Earth for your enemies whomever you have been told they may be.  Thank God for satirists like Mr Clemens whose words may have forestalled the end by a few years.

“Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth into battle—be Thou near them! With them—in spirit—we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it—

For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

[Seppius]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Ukraine said it. Must be true then. Those dastardly Russians.

 

In other news, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/05/putin-promised-me-he-would-not-kill-zelenskiy-says-former-israeli-pm-naftali-bennett

 

Putin is a smart man. Killing Zelensky runs the risk of someone smart replacing Zelensky. When playing football, you don’t “take out” your opponent’s weakest player.

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrainian-president-wanted-arrest-warrant-zelenskyy-e9714751f2481575aaf8935b132e0f31

 

That means open season on him

 

 

[Mavideol]

3 hours ago, johng said:

^^^

No idea what any of that means so awarded you a confused emoji.

means that u made a silly comment, and you get an adequate answer, sorry if it's too much for you to understand subtle comments

[rabas]

8 hours ago, johng said:

Perhaps they have built alternative supply routes ?

 

Yes, they've spent about a year so far rebuilding an alternative rail link that goes the long way around for when, not if, Ukraine drops the illegally constructed bridge. Reports are it will be fully functional by year's end.  ref

 

So, how hard is it to punch holes daily in a long, lightly defended 500km railway running along the (inside) periphery of Ukraine versus a few km of far away bridge easily covered with the best Russian air defenses (cough).  You see the problem. 

 

Or do you mean using ships? What ships? 

[Gweiloman]

14 hours ago, Seppius said:

 

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrainian-president-wanted-arrest-warrant-zelenskyy-e9714751f2481575aaf8935b132e0f31

 

That means open season on him

 

 

Putin has an arrest warrant out for him. What does that mean?

 

7 EU countries sent representatives to his inauguration. Seems like they see the arrest warrant for what it is. A politically motivated move.

[johng]

17 hours ago, Mavideol said:

means that u made a silly comment, and you get an adequate answer, sorry if it's too much for you to understand subtle comments

 

please explain what was silly about my comment ?

your comments are not subtle they are  AES 256 bit encrypted

22 hours ago, Mavideol said:

you did open the door, I just walked in, no sense of humor, pity

What door did I open   why did you walk in   where does a sense of humour come into it ?

[rabas]

3 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Putin has an arrest warrant out for him. What does that mean?

 

7 EU countries sent representatives to his inauguration. Seems like they see the arrest warrant for what it is. A politically motivated move.

 

Putin has an international arrest warrant against him so he has trouble traveling outside of Russia. The arrest warrant is for the illegal and brutal invasion of a sovereign nation and crimes against humanity. ref

 

Zelenskyy has a fictitious warrant issued by decree of Putin (who is trying to kill Zelenskyy and any Ukrainians he can shoot at (the reason for Putin's arrest warrant to begin with)), which prevents Zelenskyy traveling to, wait for it, Russia. 

 

Zelenskyy 1

Putin -2

[johng]

Here is what the US really thinks about  the ICC

(more blatant hypocrisy)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-senators-threaten-icc-israel-203616551.html

 

 

In a letter to ICC chief prosecutor Karim Khan on April 24, 12 Republican senators, including Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, and Tim Scott, warned that if an arrest warrant was issued for any Israeli leaders, “We will interpret this not only as a threat to Israel’s sovereignty but to the sovereignty of the United States,” according to a report from Zeteo.

“Target Israel and we will target you,” the letter from April 24 added, noting that the senators would sanction the court’s employees and associates, “and bar you and your families from the United States.”

“You have been warned,” the letter concluded.

[Mavideol]

Maybe you can run, but you can't hide  555

Russia is covering armored vehicles with elaborate anti-drone 'cope cages.' Video shows them getting hit anyway.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-covering-armored-vehicles-elaborate-125920534.html

[Mavideol]

it's about time, Russia is warned

Ukraine is getting a prototype artillery shell that can strike 3 times as far as regular rounds: report

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-getting-prototype-artillery-shell-095632541.html

[Gweiloman]

6 hours ago, Mavideol said:

Maybe you can run, but you can't hide  555

Russia is covering armored vehicles with elaborate anti-drone 'cope cages.' Video shows them getting hit anyway.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-covering-armored-vehicles-elaborate-125920534.html

 

6 hours ago, Mavideol said:

it's about time, Russia is warned

Ukraine is getting a prototype artillery shell that can strike 3 times as far as regular rounds: report

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-getting-prototype-artillery-shell-095632541.html

Good to hear that Ukraine is winning. Shouldn’t be long now then, for the conflict to be over, regime change in Russia, Putin arrested by ICC, Ukraine becomes part of NATO. I can hardly wait.

[kwonitoy]

 

Edited May 9 by kwonitoy

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

Seems some are clutching at straws to denigrate Putin. I didn't watch the entire parade, but I did see plenty of armoured vehicles, and the ones with great big missiles, presumably the ones with tactical nuclear warheads.

[thaibeachlovers]

51 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seems some are clutching at straws to denigrate Putin. I didn't watch the entire parade, but I did see plenty of armoured vehicles, and the ones with great big missiles, presumably the ones with tactical nuclear warheads.

The tank in question is a WW2 tank, so appropriate to use in a parade to celebrate their defeat of Germany. Perhaps the other, more modern tanks are being used to defeat the Ukrainians, and a bit busy to take part in a parade in Moscow.

[rabas]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The tank in question is a WW2 tank, so appropriate to use in a parade to celebrate their defeat of Germany. Perhaps the other, more modern tanks are being used to defeat the Ukrainians, and a bit busy to take part in a parade in Moscow.

 

The tanks aren't busy, they just aren't.

 

Russia Might Be Running Out Of Tanks (Forbes Jan 2024)

 

Russia has lost roughly 90% of its existing active tank force since the start of the war. They are now surviving on replacements. Whether they can or not depends on whether you believe Russian state propaganda (cough) or objective military analysis.

 

2018 Victory Day Parade proudly displayed their latest, most advanced T-14 tanks. No more. T-14s were sent to Ukraine and eventually withdrawn as being not battle ready.  "On 4 September 2023, TASS reported that the T-14 Armata has been withdrawn from Ukraine. " WIKI  

 

T-14 Armata: Russia's Tank Nightmare Just Won't End

 

"Moreover, the T-14's performance in Ukraine has been underwhelming, leading to its quick withdrawal from the front lines."  Worse, Russia had to halt T-14 production in Nov 2022 due to budget constraints.  WIKI  

 

Is Putin winning yet?

[jvs]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The tank in question is a WW2 tank, so appropriate to use in a parade to celebrate their defeat of Germany. Perhaps the other, more modern tanks are being used to defeat the Ukrainians, and a bit busy to take part in a parade in Moscow.

That tank was designed and manufactured in the Ukraine!!!

Very funny really "being used to defeat the Ukrainians"

Being blown up by the Ukrainians you mean?

[Mavideol]

Ukraine drone flies record 930 miles to hit oil site deep inside Russia, say intelligence chiefs

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-drone-flies-record-930-141529514.html

[Mavideol]

Ukraine updates: Drones hit Belgorod, Krasnodar in Russia

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-updates-drones-hit-belgorod-krasnodar-in-russia/ar-BB1m5bdL