Will Thailand’s new chemical castration penalty stop sexual reoffenders?

[Will B Good]

It will certainly work after the event.

 

The problem is that the Thai legal system is so poor it will chemically castrate a good proportion of innocent (Burmese?) people. 

 

At least with this form of castration it can be reversed after mysteriously receiving a royal pardon.

[KannikaP]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I'm sure the due diligence would have been completed before the scissors were engaged. 

Read the headline again. It is about CHEMICAL castration, no scissors involved.

[Card]

4 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

If the chemical castration doesn't work, a bullet to the head will certainly do the trick..

It should work in your case too.

[SAFETY FIRST]

Just now, KannikaP said:

Read the headline again. It is about CHEMICAL castration, no scissors involved.

I've already replied to your rediculous comment. 

 

You got to read more than the headline, read the article. 

 

 

[KannikaP]

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I've already replied to your rediculous comment. 

 

You got to read more than the headline, read the article. 

 

 

I just did, and NOWHERE are scissors, or any other form of physical operation mentioned.

And it is RIDICULOUS!

[condobrit001]

This proposal worries me. How soon before it becomes a requirement for the Thailand Pass?

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

I just did, and NOWHERE are scissors, or any other form of physical operation mentioned.

And it is RIDICULOUS!

Oh, OK 

Yes, the scissors was my input 

 

Sorry if you're offended. ????

[Lacessit]

I am not sure chemical castration is a permanent solution, there is no data on this thread to say it is. OTOH, there is no room for doubt when the castration is surgical.

During my days in college and cadets, it was widely rumored we were all fed potassium bromide to inactivate our urges. If it was, IMO the effects were only short-term.

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, condobrit001 said:

This proposal worries me. How soon before it becomes a requirement for the Thailand Pass?

Never happen, much of the Thai tourist economy depends on randy punters. Not to mention the BiB collecting their weekly kickbacks from the bars and karaokes, if they don't already own them..

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

1 minute ago, condobrit001 said:

This proposal worries me. How soon before it becomes a requirement for the Thailand Pass?

Indeed. You are no longer allowed that sort of arousal in the new five-star, family friendly, high quality tourist Thailand. Only temples and beaches for you.

 

But seriously, I recall a case in the States were a long term, repeated offender was begging for the treatment and denied it, under cruel and unusual punishment grounds. It was some years ago. Maybe he finally got it. I wasn't aware some states do it and some don't.

 

One of my classes in uni was on domestic violence, and the prof said as others have, such attacks aren't for the sexual gratification, but for gratification through power and violence. Chemicals acting upon the sexual part may have no effect.

[KannikaP]

8 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, OK 

Yes, the scissors was my input 

 

Sorry if you're offended. ????

Me? Offended? Takes a lot to do that!

[simple1]

3 hours ago, Scott said:

I don't have an opinion on whether there should be life sentences without release.  There are different kinds of offenders and people get locked up for different reasons, including non-violent, non-touching offenses, such as peeping Toms and those who steal women's underwear.

 

OK. I am of course referring to those who have committed egregious sexual crimes.

[kimamey]

1 hour ago, Stygge said:

If you take away the sex drive you can´t have penetration or any other sexual activities. You are left with a common assault or abuse if you persist.

 

Actually that's not entirely true with either chemical or physical castration (removal of testicles) and there is still some re offending. There is also the suggestion that some of those who volunteer for chemical castration and accept the hormonal effects in return for a lesser sentence so so because they value their freedom over the hormonal effects. 

 

Also in countries where voluntary chemical castration is available a proportion of those opting for the procedure will be those who don't want to offend and want something to reduce and control the desire. This is much the same as those dealing with drug, alcohol and gambling addiction although it often seems that is more easily accepted by the public. 

[ikke1959]

They should legalize porn... Many men would watch and get rid of their hornyness, but everything in THailand must be blurred and porn is forbidden. Just like in the Victorian age. Now if men want to get rid of their needs and they don't have money to pay for it the grab what they can get..It is not only their fault., but of the policy of the Government and education  

[kimamey]

13 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I am not sure chemical castration is a permanent solution, there is no data on this thread to say it is. OTOH, there is no room for doubt when the castration is surgical.

During my days in college and cadets, it was widely rumored we were all fed potassium bromide to inactivate our urges. If it was, IMO the effects were only short-term.

As others have said neither chemical nor surgical castration completely remove the ability for sexual activity or crime of a sexual nature but based on power and domination. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by Scott

[kimamey]

51 minutes ago, condobrit001 said:

This proposal worries me. How soon before it becomes a requirement for the Thailand Pass?

Will we have to have a QR code on our members and present them at immigration?

 

I'm imagining myself in a bar chatting to some girl and telling her "No I don't have a QR code, I've got a barcode. A very long one. Do you want to 'scan' it?"

 

Sorry got to go the wife wants to know what I'm grinning at and by the look on her face I don't think she'll see the funny side.

Edited March 21, 2022 by kimamey

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, Swampy999 said:

Why waste a perfectly good hypodermic and medication which may not work when a 9mm to the back of the head is cheaper and 100% effective?

You are American? 

[Andrew65]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Read the headline again. It is about CHEMICAL castration, no scissors involved.

I believe it involves administering female hormones?

[dallen52]

Non anaesthesia castration sounds a better way...

[Bangkok Barry]

The phrase 'Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted' comes to mind.

[Lacessit]

58 minutes ago, kimamey said:

As others have said neither chemical or surgical castration completely remove the ability for sexual activity or crime of a sexual nature but based on power and domination. 

In that case, I would say anyone who  re-offends AFTER either method has forfeited their right to life.

[yeahbutif]

Hows does it work? Does yours ball rot and drop off some how?

[wealthychef]

How about, does anyone in Thailand use Google?  https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/why-chemical-castration-of-child-rapists-molesters-is-a-solution-that-ignores-realities/articleshow/49610231.cms 

[keystonecoppers2]

  Don`t waist bullets, it will be a big cost in Thailand.

  Use a rope, can be used many times!

                                    Cheers!

[KanchanaburiGuy]

Hmm, I wonder....... 

 

Do those who immediately jump to "put a bullet in their head" somehow think they're better  than the rapist/molester? 

 

Sorry, but it doesn't seem to me that anyone who'd react that way and jump forward to broadcast it.......... has any real claim to being more civilized.......... than the person they want to shoot!

 

Cuz let's be honest. Their urge is not to solve a personal or societal problem. Their urge is to shoot and kill someone. They just see this situation as a more-socially-acceptable opportunity to do so! 

 

Urges come in many forms. Some observations about the urges of rapists and molesters have already been stated upthread. But what about the urges of those who immediately jump to "put a bullet in their head," hmmm? 

[roo860]

3 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

I believe it involves administering female hormones?

They'd probably prefer their balls chopped off.

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, roo860 said:

They'd probably prefer their balls chopped off.

Irreversible, less chance of a "balls-up"????

[cdemundo]

6 hours ago, wombat said:

Why wouldn't it?

As I understand it because the hormonal drive is not the fundamental cause of these aberrant behaviors.

Some sex crimes are committed by individuals who are already impotent.

The problem is thought to be in the brain and elimination of testosterone isn't going to fix it.

Even still I wouldn't oppose any kind of attempt to limit these monsters from re-offending.

[Lacessit]

48 minutes ago, KanchanaburiGuy said:

Hmm, I wonder....... 

 

Do those who immediately jump to "put a bullet in their head" somehow think they're better  than the rapist/molester? 

 

Sorry, but it doesn't seem to me that anyone who'd react that way and jump forward to broadcast it.......... has any real claim to being more civilized.......... than the person they want to shoot!

 

Cuz let's be honest. Their urge is not to solve a personal or societal problem. Their urge is to shoot and kill someone. They just see this situation as a more-socially-acceptable opportunity to do so! 

 

Urges come in many forms. Some observations about the urges of rapists and molesters have already been stated upthread. But what about the urges of those who immediately jump to "put a bullet in their head," hmmm? 

Many years ago, I had a conversation with an eminent criminal psychologist. He explained many criminals have been moulded by the abuse they have been subjected to when they were children, by adults who should have been nurturing them.

He did say there was a small percentage of criminals for which there was nothing in their upbringing or environment to explain their cruelty, and disregard for all forms of life. He said while it was not a term psychologists favored using, there were individuals who were pure evil. There's one leading Russia as I write this.

[uktony]

See: Alan Turing